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Concealed Carry in Illinois
« on: March 01, 2011, 10:00:17 AM »
I woke up this morning and heard on the radio that Illinois is trying to get concealed carry passed in the house.  Below is a link to the House Bill (HB148):

http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/billstatus.asp?DocNum=148&GAID=11&GA=97&DocTypeID=HB&LegID=54713&SessionID=84

I have no idea what the odds are, but it certainly sounds like a good time to rally the troops.  I will be writing my house and senate demoncratic representatives to explain my support for this.  FYI, you can use the above website to find out who represents you and how to contact them.  

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Re: Concealed Carry in Illinois
« Reply #1 on: March 01, 2011, 10:38:11 AM »
Don't forget to ask them to not just support it, but to cosponsor it. This bill contains state preemption but there is also another bill that has it too. Ask them to get on board with both of them.

Also the hard one. Be sure to write the Governor, he has stated he will veto such a bill. We need to get him on board as well.

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Re: Concealed Carry in Illinois
« Reply #2 on: March 01, 2011, 12:48:33 PM »
Good luck --keep up the pressure  O0
BTW Wyoming has "Constitutional Carry" on the govenor's desk awaiting his signature . When (If) he signs it ,that will make 4 including Vermont ,Alaska, and recently Arizona .

When Alaska was considering "CC" the police chief of Wasilla AK  spoke against this common sense legislation .
His career was ended when the former Mayor of Wasilla fired him because of his anti rights views. ;D
The fired police chief  whined to the courts with no effect. The Mayor had the authority to fire this antigun CHUMP O0

Is it any wonder the state controlled media is constantly ridiculing this pro freedom former mayor -govenor of USA's largest state.
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Re: Concealed Carry in Illinois
« Reply #3 on: March 01, 2011, 12:58:42 PM »
I woke up this morning and heard on the radio that Illinois is trying to get concealed carry passed in the house.  Below is a link to the House Bill (HB148):

http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/billstatus.asp?DocNum=148&GAID=11&GA=97&DocTypeID=HB&LegID=54713&SessionID=84

I have no idea what the odds are, but it certainly sounds like a good time to rally the troops.  I will be writing my house and senate demoncratic representatives to explain my support for this.  FYI, you can use the above website to find out who represents you and how to contact them.  

Now if only Wisconsin would be considering such a bill....you guys are ahead of us on that one.
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Re: Concealed Carry in Illinois
« Reply #4 on: March 01, 2011, 03:56:16 PM »
Don't forget about IGOLD - Illinois Gun Owners Lobby Day - coming up March 10 (a week from Thursday). 

Gun owners from all over Illinois are showing up.  We're shooting (pardon the pun) for 10,000. 

The CC bill is scheduled to begin consideration on March 8. 

If you are an Illinois gun owner, it is VERY important that you be there IF AT ALL POSSIBLE.  Take the day off from work.  If you don't want to drive, catch one of the busses; see http://igold.isra.org/ for bus info. 

This will be thousands of Illinoisians, peacefully and proudly letting their government know what they want it to do.  Civic involvement is one of the goals of becoming an awakened American at Appleseed.  So get off the couch and get there on March 10. 

Not incidentally, if you take one of the busses, you'll have however long the bus ride is with a captive audience of 40 or 50 souls to talk to about Appleseed...

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Re: Concealed Carry in Illinois
« Reply #5 on: March 02, 2011, 01:03:40 AM »
Good luck --keep up the pressure  O0
BTW Wyoming has "Constitutional Carry" on the govenor's desk awaiting his signature . When (If) he signs it ,that will make 4 including Vermont ,Alaska, and recently Arizona .



JA,
Somehow I have missed "Constitutional Carry" so I looked it up. 
2A - Here's an article about CC and several states that are working on CC Bills.
Excerpt:
"Under Freedom To Carry, sometimes called Vermont carry or Alaska-style carry, basically, the government stays out of your face as you exercise your fundamental human and civil right to own and carry property. Arms, by the way, are the only enumerated objects in the Constitution or Bill of Rights that you are guaranteed the right to possess."
http://www.gunlaws.com/ConstitutionalCarry.htm

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Re: Concealed Carry in Illinois
« Reply #6 on: March 02, 2011, 11:02:40 AM »
And you guys make fun of CA gun laws!!  Just kidding ;D.  Best of success in this endeavor, don't let up for a second!
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Re: Concealed Carry in Illinois
« Reply #7 on: March 02, 2011, 03:05:06 PM »
The Illinois bill is for Concealed Carry, under a permit system. 

It's not Constitutional Carry (which is a pity, because when I grow up, I want to live in a state with Constitutional Carry). 

At any rate, the carry bill is coming up in Illinois; IGOLD is coming up in Illinois; and this year is the best chance we've ever had to make it a reality. 

48 other states can't be wrong. 

Be in Springfield, at the Prairie Capital Convention Center, at 11:45 AM next Thursday, March 10. 

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Re: Concealed Carry in Illinois
« Reply #8 on: March 02, 2011, 05:01:21 PM »
Pop ,
The county I live in basically has no provision for any concealed carry(except those well conected ) needless to say those who elect the sheriff would be most welcome by Chicago's new (old) mayor. :(

How we ever got to the place of needing govt permission to protect ourselves,loved ones and society in general is a mystery .
Until we get more folks involved with voting "freedom first" the state of victim disarmament will only accelerate .

Keep up the good work in Illinois.We are proud of you O0
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Re: Concealed Carry in Illinois
« Reply #9 on: March 03, 2011, 01:16:38 AM »
Another issue youse Illinois guys are facing the attorney General there just ruled that your firearm owners card is public information so anyone can request it. 
On a lighter side one woman on the radio said that the criminals can find out who don't own guns and rob them.

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Re: Concealed Carry in Illinois
« Reply #10 on: March 03, 2011, 08:27:17 AM »
Another issue youse Illinois guys are facing the attorney General there just ruled that your firearm owners card is public information so anyone can request it. 
On a lighter side one woman on the radio said that the criminals can find out who don't own guns and rob them.

JG

And on the darker side, criminals can find out WHO HAS GUNS AND ROB THEM.

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Re: Concealed Carry in Illinois
« Reply #11 on: March 03, 2011, 09:54:15 AM »
Couple of observations (then back to work, so as to avoid the dreaded thread drift police...):
1)  Robbing people who are known to have guns...begs nomination for a Darwin Award...
2)  In "Unintended Consequences," John Ross says something like (don't remember exact quote and autographed copy of book @ home), "Insulting
     and depriving a people of their rights (sound familiar, AS Instructors?) is a very bad idea."  True, from one of the best, imho, books written, despite
     its 800+ pages.
3)  NYS law allows each county's Surrogate Judge to decide, WITHOUT APPEAL, what kind of handgun license he or she will issue, e.g. "full" carry, concealed...the dreaded, and extremely common "hunting and target" restriction, or various others.  Patently unfair, arbitrary, indefensible, and unable
to be changed...
4)  NYS licenses are good anywhere in the state...except the five counties/boroughs of NYC (see comments in #3).  NYC Permits, however, are also
valid throughout the state...again, see #3...Ironically, there are two counties beyond NYC - Nassau and Suffolk, in which our non-NYC permits are valid.  One just has to figure out how to get to them (and they contain the AS range at Calverton) without setting foot in NYC.  Boat?  Helicopter?
Transporter beam?  Angels?  Self levitation?  Other?
5)  There have been a number of attempts in NYS, most recently in my own Warren County, to have the County supply, or otherwise publish a LIST
of Pistol Permit holders under the FOIL statutes...thus far they have been unsuccessful...but, as seen in other states, they WILL continue.
6)  Also bears repeating that Chicago, one of the least firearms-friendly places outside of New Jersey and, wait for it, Massachusetts, summarily ended all scholastic riflery programs in the city schools some years back, without benefit of any discussion whatsoever, despite the fact that there are still some thirty colleges (non-service academies) that offer scholasrships for Riflery (NC State, Alaska, Ole Miss to mention just a few).

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Re: Concealed Carry in Illinois
« Reply #12 on: March 03, 2011, 10:56:24 AM »
The Illinois State Police, who are the keepers of the FOID registration data base, have again, respectfully declined to release the recordsO0 There is already a stipulation in Illinois Law that no information has to be released if it could result in the potential harm or death of a police officer or others.  If the list was revealed, it would show who potentially has firearms, and those who don't.  It would also reveal the addresses of current and past police officers, putting them at risk also.

I don't know where the Atty. General's head is at!!  This is being requested b/c a nosey person from the Associated Press wants it.  This is apparently the 2nd time she has tried to have the records made public.  The state police want the result to be determined through the courts.

Pray, stay strong and write, call and fax your congressmen and Lisa Madigan's office!!!
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Another issue youse Illinois guys are facing the attorney General there just ruled that your firearm owners card is public information so anyone can request it. 
On a lighter side one woman on the radio said that the criminals can find out who don't own guns and rob them.

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Re: Concealed Carry in Illinois
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IGOLD MARCH 10.... BE THERE!!!!! ..:.. ..:.. ..:.. ..:.. ..:.. ..:..
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Re: Concealed Carry in Illinois
« Reply #14 on: March 03, 2011, 01:09:48 PM »
G69 ----- I knew you would be going to Springfield ^5

Tell Richard Pearson Hi for me . He has a sense of humor nearly as good as yours ;D
He probably will not recall KCMG shoot 06 ---- where he represented Illinois State Rifle Association--- I think he is the executive director or was.

Good luck we are with you  ;)
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Re: Concealed Carry in Illinois
« Reply #15 on: March 04, 2011, 11:14:13 PM »
Is there any plans for an Appleseed group meetup at I-Gold?

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Re: Concealed Carry in Illinois
« Reply #16 on: March 05, 2011, 12:42:08 PM »
Carpool or caravan sure sounds like fun --------------wish we could be there  :(

Wonder if the state controlled media will cover this ?

Looking forward to lots of pics  O0
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Re: Concealed Carry in Illinois
« Reply #17 on: March 05, 2011, 08:02:15 PM »
Guns Save Life .com will have a table in the lobby of the Prairie Capital Conv. Center Thursday; I'll be there, if any ASers want to stop by.  I'll have some AS flyers there.

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Re: Concealed Carry in Illinois
« Reply #18 on: March 09, 2011, 10:55:26 AM »
Yesterday HB 148 passed the committee 12 - 2.

If you support this cause the time is now. Write that 2 minute letter. Send the email if that's the best you can do, but putting it on paper with a stamp still carries more weight. If for some reason you missplaced the page with your rep's address, you can find it here:

http://www.elections.state.il.us/DistrictLocator/DistrictOfficialSearchByAddress.aspx

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Re: Concealed Carry in Illinois
« Reply #19 on: March 09, 2011, 12:53:51 PM »
Fantastic!  One step at a time.

Quick question, and excuse me for not knowing how "the system" works.  I noticed that there are also house bills 112 and 1403 for concealed carry.  Why are there 3 of them?  Does anyone know the difference?  Thanks in advance.

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Re: Concealed Carry in Illinois
« Reply #20 on: March 09, 2011, 01:28:53 PM »
Fantastic!  One step at a time.

Quick question, and excuse me for not knowing how "the system" works.  I noticed that there are also house bills 112 and 1403 for concealed carry.  Why are there 3 of them?  Does anyone know the difference?  Thanks in advance.

1403 has you apply directly to the Ill. State Police. 148 & 112 go thru the county sheriff.

I read 148, haven't read 112. There will be some minor differences. It is quite common to introduce several bills with minor differences. 148 is the one that floats best, so be it.
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Re: Concealed Carry in Illinois
« Reply #21 on: March 09, 2011, 04:17:03 PM »
I shot in Australia once at one of there indoor ranges, it was a joke they cable lock the pistol down when there on line. Cant aim or even move it. 

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Re: Concealed Carry in Illinois
« Reply #22 on: March 09, 2011, 04:30:20 PM »
If anyone has trifolds or other AS handouts to bring, and we don't have an AS table, please bring them and leave them on the Guns Save Life table.  GSL will have a table both at the Prairie Capital Convention Center and inside the Capitol. 

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Re: Concealed Carry in Illinois
« Reply #23 on: March 14, 2011, 11:21:53 AM »
live e-mail address for Miss Gordon - a quick note asking her to support the bill

92nd Illinois House District
Representative Jehan Gordon
300 E War Memorial Dr, Suite 303
Peoria, IL 61614
Phone: (309)-672-9292
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Re: Concealed Carry in Illinois
« Reply #24 on: March 14, 2011, 12:03:09 PM »
This is it. The time is now. Today. Not tomorrow. Not next week.
Write your Rep's. Find them here:

http://www.elections.state.il.us/DistrictLocator/DistrictOfficialSearchByAddress.aspx

If you don't know what to say, start with the following and follow your heart. Change it up. We don't want the same letter from everyone. Remember, respectful, short and firm. Be sure to put your name and address and sign. Hand written is better than typed, snail mail is better than email.

Now the hard part, after you write your letter, call all your relatives, friends and neighbors and ask them to do the same. If they don't know their reps, help them do the research.

The Honorable Rep. Dolittle
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Dear Ms. Dolittle

I am a voter in your district and I'm asking you to support HB148. This is critical legislation to bring Illinois in line with the rest of the country. I need your support to insure that we have a veto proof majority.

Yours truly

Ima Voter
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Re: Concealed Carry in Illinois
« Reply #25 on: March 14, 2011, 12:28:34 PM »

TE since I am the closest resupply depot and I will be headed for Normal, Illinois this afternoon, tell me where we can meet
and I will bring what I have available which includes some trifolds, Fliers and 18x24 posters. Let me know if this works
and where you would like meet that is central such as Market Street off exit 160 - Highway 55 or just off the Mitsubishi Parkway.

Best regards,

CM

If anyone has trifolds or other AS handouts to bring, and we don't have an AS table, please bring them and leave them on the Guns Save Life table.  GSL will have a table both at the Prairie Capital Convention Center and inside the Capitol. 

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Re: Concealed Carry in Illinois
« Reply #26 on: March 14, 2011, 01:34:08 PM »
CM,

Thanks.  I'm good for now; just got a mess of trifolds in the shoot box for the Danville shoot that was delivered over the weekend. 

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Re: Concealed Carry in Illinois
« Reply #27 on: March 14, 2011, 02:15:22 PM »


That's a big 10/4. Just remember that we are a supply Depot for this part of Illinois from way back when Pappy set this up.
If you ever need something, just give me a call.

Good luck on your presentation


Cheers,

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CM,

Thanks.  I'm good for now; just got a mess of trifolds in the shoot box for the Danville shoot that was delivered over the weekend. 

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Re: Concealed Carry in Illinois
« Reply #28 on: May 04, 2011, 11:36:45 AM »
Back on topic, and BTT.

There is  a lot of activity on this now folks.  When I hear reps say ALL of their constituents are OPPOSED to this bill, yet all I hear on the radio, and online is SUPPORT, Something is VERY wrong.  Let your congress folks know, I mean really KNOW how YOU feel about YOUR state government.

I'm writing my letters today (One to my state senator Dan Duffy, and the other to my rep Ed Sullivan Jr).  I've been slacking, and I cannot attend another Appleseed without taking 5 minutes to write two very important letters.

Think about it...can you find a few minutes?  Have something better to do?  Did Isaac Davis have something better to do April 19th, when he left his home?

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Re: Concealed Carry in Illinois
« Reply #29 on: May 04, 2011, 11:59:03 AM »
My letter was sent in!  Karen Yarborough knows my feelings.  Irony in action:  she lists in her biography that "pulic safety" is one of her priorities, yet she will undoubetly vote for criminal safety.  She's part of the problem!