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Re: WI KD Opportunities and Full Distance patch
« Reply #30 on: August 25, 2010, 10:25:32 PM »
In my opinion RBC's have out used there usefulness.  I for one am not interested  in  instructing  at one.  Just look at what we did at the IBC.  But that is only me.

Hey, how about we look for a place for an RBC in WI.  ;) :cool2:  :~ :~ :~ :~ :~ :~ :~ :~ :~

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Re: WI KD Opportunities and Full Distance patch
« Reply #31 on: August 25, 2010, 11:05:39 PM »
So let's make a Winter IBC then. Either way we get to shoot to 600 in the cold. >:D  Instead of ATV's we'll bring snowmobiles.

I'd love to be able to post a Jan opportunity for Full Distance.

PS: Can we open the Sunday portion of the IBC to those who need a to earn/prove rifleman scores? At $40 per person I don't why not.(No range fee)
        Or am I opening yet another can O' worms......I hate when I do that :wb:

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Re: WI KD Opportunities and Full Distance patch
« Reply #32 on: August 25, 2010, 11:28:58 PM »
No can o worms! ..:..
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Re: WI KD Opportunities and Full Distance patch
« Reply #33 on: August 26, 2010, 08:46:44 AM »
Umm...  any chance a guy that shot FDAQT at the Rolla, ND RBC could get one o' them patches??? 
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Re: WI KD Opportunities and Full Distance patch
« Reply #34 on: August 26, 2010, 08:51:03 AM »
Umm...  any chance a guy that shot FDAQT at the Rolla, ND RBC could get one o' them patches??? 

I think the idea is to shoot KD in WI   @)

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Re: WI KD Opportunities and Full Distance patch
« Reply #35 on: August 26, 2010, 08:58:19 AM »
Dang it!    :wb: I dunno when I can get out there to shoot KD...   :---
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Re: WI KD Opportunities and Full Distance patch
« Reply #36 on: August 26, 2010, 09:05:54 AM »
I heard Cornell MI is now part of WI  8) . Lacrosse in Dec.  O0

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Re: WI KD Opportunities and Full Distance patch
« Reply #37 on: August 26, 2010, 09:07:38 AM »
So let's make a Winter IBC then. Either way we get to shoot to 600 in the cold. >:D  Instead of ATV's we'll bring snowmobiles.

I'd love to be able to post a Jan opportunity for Full Distance.

PS: Can we open the Sunday portion of the IBC to those who need a to earn/prove rifleman scores? At $40 per person I don't why not.(No range fee)
        Or am I opening yet another can O' worms......I hate when I do that :wb:




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Re: WI KD Opportunities and Full Distance patch
« Reply #38 on: August 26, 2010, 09:38:46 AM »
Hmmmmm,
A northern Wisconsin Winter IBC........sounds good to me, or we could do a KD clinic!

Illinois has that 1500(max)? person IBC down in Ottawa, we could do the KD clinic the following weekend!

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Re: WI KD Opportunities and Full Distance patch
« Reply #39 on: August 26, 2010, 01:48:47 PM »
Well I'll be out at Cornell but I'm pretty sure I'll be busy teaching seeing how it's just Colycat and I at the moment... 

LaCrosse the next KD shoot??? 
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Re: WI KD Opportunities and Full Distance patch
« Reply #40 on: August 26, 2010, 02:52:33 PM »
Where can I purchase some KD targets so I can practice?
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Re: WI KD Opportunities and Full Distance patch
« Reply #41 on: August 26, 2010, 08:21:29 PM »
In my opinion RBC's have out used there usefulness.  I for one am not interested  in  instructing  at one.  Just look at what we did at the IBC.  But that is only me.

Hey, how about we look for a place for an RBC in WI.  ;) :cool2:  :~ :~ :~ :~ :~ :~ :~ :~ :~

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Alright I'll bite  ??? ; why have RBC's out lived there usefulness?
How many Rifleman did we make at the IBC ? RBC's make Rifleman and then they can begin the road to becoming an Instructor. IBC's only work on Instructor skill's .

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Re: WI KD Opportunities and Full Distance patch
« Reply #42 on: August 26, 2010, 10:11:26 PM »
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Where can I purchase some KD targets so I can practice?

I have full D targets you can buy $2.25 each. I can leave them at the club or what ever.
West Allis Blueprint has them on computer file for $2.50 each. Make sure you ask for the "target" file that Zignego usually gets.
Chris Z has targets for 200yds that simulate the 300yd D and 400yd D. Send him or me a PM for these.

PM me or call 414 750 1589 and I can help you out.




What's the range at Cornell? I think it's 300. If you want I can work up some KD targets. You'll need an xtra red hat though.




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Umm...  any chance a guy that shot FDAQT at the Rolla, ND RBC could get one o' them patches???
I think you mean passed.

russellmn....as soon as I'm in the surplus of these patches or the add on that Meanstreaker suggested I will make them availiable to any red hat who will then be on his honor to award them appropriately. WI riflemen will go first but give me a couple weeks and we'll be alright.
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Re: WI KD Opportunities and Full Distance patch
« Reply #43 on: August 27, 2010, 12:10:45 AM »
I believe the 'add-on' is the way to go...
Should make things a little easier on BrendaZ as well.
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Re: WI KD Opportunities and Full Distance patch
« Reply #44 on: August 27, 2010, 02:26:56 AM »
Thanks Joe.  I like the idea of the add on as well.  We've got a few over here in MN that have qual'd FD...
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Re: WI KD Opportunities and Full Distance patch
« Reply #45 on: August 28, 2010, 11:29:27 AM »


   Just for everyone's info, there is a Wisconsin manufacterer of targets ,    Qualification Targets, Inc. (www.targets.net) toll free 866-498-8228  or (715) 796-5201.  I tried to call him but today is Sat. so no answer.
 Surprisingly, this outfit is in a town just minutes north of me.
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Re: WI KD Opportunities and Full Distance patch
« Reply #46 on: August 28, 2010, 11:51:02 AM »


   Just for everyone's info, there is a Wisconsin manufacterer of targets ,    Qualification Targets, Inc. (www.targets.net) toll free 866-498-8228  or (715) 796-5201.  I tried to call him but today is Sat. so no answer.
 Surprisingly, this outfit is in a town just minutes north of me.
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This is the first supplier that I have seen that stocks the full size 'D' target (full size is 6' X 6').  Most places only stock the repair centers which are much smaller and remove some of the scoring rings.

Unfortunately they list their minimum order as 1,000 pcs for this target :(
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Re: WI KD Opportunities and Full Distance patch
« Reply #47 on: August 28, 2010, 01:10:15 PM »
no pricing and not the same as the ones we git from RWVA. Has a 2 score?? and sill is different.

For our KDCs in FL, I have been getting copies of the RWVA targets made at a blueprint shop nearby that is happy to get the work and offers me a pretty decent price. They are on white paper, but work pretty well, and are about 35" x 36" overall - plenty big enough if placed on 4x4' backers.

I have a target line design that works with 3/4" insulation board and 2x4s - portable and reasonable cost. Each 4x8' sheet of "celotex" (no longer made, but you get idea) creates two backers. Sink the 2x4s with a post hole digger at least 2' in ground, on 8' centers, and run drywall screws thru celotex into flat of 2x4s at center point. Be sure that all rounds impact berm from all positions and distances to avoid skip rounds or over berm rounds. Always charge rifle with muzzle pointed at berm to avoid slam fire rounds over berm.

Use white paper behind black 4MOA squares for sighting and remove to place D targets. Start at 25M and get zero (index or record this base sight setting - this is CRITICAL info). Move back to 100 and begin the FD AQT. Easy peasy.  ^-^
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Re: WI KD Opportunities and Full Distance patch
« Reply #48 on: August 28, 2010, 01:38:25 PM »
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What's the range at Cornell? I think it's 300. If you want I can work up some KD targets. You'll need an xtra red hat though.



The Cornell range is out to 1000 yds.  They're practically in the backyard of my deer camp.
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Re: WI KD Opportunities and Full Distance patch
« Reply #49 on: August 29, 2010, 07:30:22 PM »
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What's the range at Cornell? I think it's 300. If you want I can work up some KD targets. You'll need an xtra red hat though.







The Cornell range is out to 1000 yds.  They're practically in the backyard of my deer camp.




I see a chance for a KDAQT here,. With colycat , OG and russellmn instructing it should be a good one.

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Re: WI KD Opportunities and Full Distance patch
« Reply #50 on: August 30, 2010, 12:24:18 AM »
Another clarification. The target we use is the D target as supplied by the RWVA that has the 3 point field on it. Written on the bottom is "Center, Target Repair: Rifle Target "D" (Army)". The outside dimension of the 4 point field is 25.75 inch. We don't use the 2 point field that is partially visible on the top.

Possible sources I have printed earlier in this thread.

 This is not to be confused with the RWVA Project Appleseed Full Distance AQT which has no 3 point field.(Fred does not pay for misses) This one can be used as a repair for the target mentioned above.

If you get ahold of a full "D" check the 4 point field for size and simply ignore the 2 point field. The 6 feet by 6 feet may help with shooters who are struggling with a zero problem.
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Re: WI KD Opportunities and Full Distance patch
« Reply #51 on: September 30, 2010, 12:02:38 PM »
Another chance here to earn the full distance patch. Sunday we will be on Racine's 600 yd range with patches in hand. If you are a rifleman, sign up for Sunday only. If you are an orange hat, show up Sun only to instruct/shoot.
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Re: WI KD Opportunities and Full Distance patch
« Reply #52 on: September 30, 2010, 04:48:30 PM »
Another chance here to earn the full distance patch. Sunday we will be on Racine's 600 yd range with patches in hand. If you are a rifleman, sign up for Sunday only. If you are an orange hat, show up Sun only to instruct/shoot.


Or come Saturday for some more history, shoot some QDAQT,s, take an Orange hat, shoot Full distance on Sunday and than help instruct  O0 . All that in one weekend  :cool2: . What a GLORIOUS country we live in  :) .

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Re: WI KD Opportunities and Full Distance patch
« Reply #53 on: September 30, 2010, 06:49:34 PM »
Another chance here to earn the full distance patch. Sunday we will be on Racine's 600 yd range with patches in hand. If you are a rifleman, sign up for Sunday only. If you are an orange hat, show up Sun only to instruct/shoot.


Or come Saturday for some more history, shoot some QDAQT,s, take an Orange hat, shoot Full distance on Sunday and than help instruct  O0 . All that in one weekend  :cool2: . What a GLORIOUS country we live in  :) .

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Re: WI KD Opportunities and Full Distance patch
« Reply #54 on: September 30, 2010, 06:59:38 PM »
If you do not have a suitable rifle for the KD AQT I will have loaners at Racine oct 2-3
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Re: WI KD Opportunities and Full Distance patch
« Reply #55 on: October 05, 2010, 09:17:19 PM »
Next opportunity is Sat Oct 16 at 8:30 AM. PM me to go as I must arrange club members to host us. We will shoot to 600 yds and full distance patches will be in hand. Please, only those who shot rifleman score before.
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« Reply #56 on: October 13, 2010, 12:13:41 PM »
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Re: WI KD Opportunities and Full Distance patch
« Reply #58 on: November 02, 2010, 12:38:48 AM »
Two oppurtunities coming up. Racine on Nov 20-21 (you read that right, openning weekend!!!) This range reaches out to 600 and we always use it.

LaCrosse on December 4-5.

These full distance shoots are open to red hats, IITs, and riflemen. Go ahead and sign up for Sunday only. You will come away from this not just with practice at full distance but we are going to teach you how to teach KD. We're not just trying to earn an extra patch here. When someone sees your patch they are to understand that you are not teaching from a book but rather from your experience. This is your chance to be some of the most qualified to instruct around.

  The instruction actually starts now with a few simple rules I picked up at the RBC in Osage Beach (many thanks to VAshoter and jmdavis)
1: Do not waste range time with things you can do at home. Check your rifles mechanical functions and properly lubricate. Dry fire, dry fire, and dry fire some more. We tell our shooters this all the time but do we do this ourselves? The more you shoot the more you need to dry fire to catch bad habits as they creep in. Also, try this; dry fire in a totally dark room. Do this for an hour and you will know your trigger intimately.

2: Zero your rifle. For M1As and Garands, zero at 25 meters and you will be zero at 200. AR 15s zero on your 8/3 setting +1 click and you will be zero at 300. For most scoped rifles, zero at 25 will be zero between 250 and 300 depending on your sight height above the bore line. You'll be close enough for the sighters at 200.
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Re: WI KD Opportunities and Full Distance patch
« Reply #59 on: November 02, 2010, 02:00:08 PM »
2: Zero your rifle. For M1As and Garands, zero at 25 meters and you will be zero at 200. AR 15s zero on your 8/3 setting +1 click and you will be zero at 300. For most scoped rifles, zero at 25 will be zero between 250 and 300 depending on your sight height above the bore line. You'll be close enough for the sighters at 200.
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We should assume this will be true for our AR-10T .308 as well? Or are they flatter shooting?

Really want to attend this event with  you WI folks. This will be a treat. VA Shooter & JM Davis both lit a fire
in us to shoot KD. We can never be content with 25 M again. I shoot the KD with my .22 and now the big
rifle is going to win the day. If you had the chance to read the Texas KD range report of one shooter
doing very well out to 1000 yds.  Do check it out!   O0 O0

You  WI folks need to send that fine new Texas orange hat a patch for that special accomplishment   O0 I sure would. :)
You will assuradly cement WI into the hearts and minds of those Texans because WI has the neatest patch.

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