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Piru CA, March 7, 8.

Started by HollywoodMarine, March 09, 2009, 03:16:01 AM

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HollywoodMarine

March 09, 2009, 03:16:01 AM Last Edit: March 09, 2009, 05:15:55 PM by HollywoodMarine
Well another fine Appleseed in sunny southern California. We had 18 shooters show on Saturday, with a wide range of rifles. We had two M1A, two SKS, one MAS 49/56, 1 22HK Clone, two bolt 22, and the rest were 10/22. Sunday every one had 10/22 :) Excet for Mike he kept runnig his rather cool looking HK 22 Clone. The shooters persevered through two days of bad suntans  >:D But I have to say the spirit that was in those 18 was quite inspiring. Of the 18, 17 were new to Appleseed and 4 were new to shooting period. They came from all across the state, and the world to take part. I felt quite honored to have meet them. Quite a few were ramming the door trying to get the score but I am sad to say we did not get any riflemen scores. However I could tell by the looks in there eyes, when I told them that they had shot there last AQT of the day. That we shall soon have more riflemen to count among our ranks.
                                                                                              HM
A wise man can learn from a fool, but a fool cannot learn even from a wise man.

Embrace the suck!

sespe

#1
March 09, 2009, 01:58:27 PM
Don't be bashful, Hollywood, tell them the rest of the story.  There were some items presented at the end of the day. O0

This was my first Appleseed and a definite eye-opener for me.  I was shocked at how my skills have degraded without use.  I loved the focus on the basics.  The volunteerism of the instructors was always evident, I was loaned a rifle and a mat over the weekend.  I'm stiff and sore today, got a couple scraped elbows, and one red ear despite all the sunscreen.  And yet I can't wait for the next one. 

And there is just something special about listening to a guy with a British accent school you in American history. 

I'll be back next month.  Already have a commitment for another attendee.  We'll see if I can't get closer...
I appeal to you again to constantly bear in mind that with you, and not with politicians, not with Presidents, not with office-seekers, but with you, is the question, "Shall the Union and shall the liberties of this country be preserved to the latest generation?"  -Abraham Lincoln

HollywoodMarine

#2
March 09, 2009, 02:43:07 PM
Well I was hoping that the video would be up on U-tube first but Sespe gave us a small class and demonstration of the black powder rifle and it use. He fired three rounds as fast as he could at the 100yd Red Coat target in 2min and 15 sec  :~ and scoring one hit and two very close misses. If there was a 30 cal rule for Black Powder he would have had them O0 I have to say it gave me a great deal of respect for those men on April 19,1775 and what they had to work with and the skill it would take to do what they did. I hope that there will be some pics up on the board soon of the shoot. &)
                                                                                                            HM
A wise man can learn from a fool, but a fool cannot learn even from a wise man.

Embrace the suck!

LavaTech

#3
March 09, 2009, 05:03:55 PM
It was an excellent Appleseed in terms of the enjoyment and progress everyone made there, whether fresh 'seeder's or IIT's. As usual the Instructor Corps was really hoping for more Riflemen too, it always makes all the fun we have even better - but it just wasn't in the cards this time. I'm sure it's not just me that would like to be there to see all of them earn a Rifleman patch, but we'll just have to take what comes in due time. O0

I do regret to inform HollywoodMarine that it's difficult for me to conceive of using the VERY unofficial Appleseed Motto of "We're so dedicated that we'll even watch men's butts" in my signature line, so I'll just have to pass for now. **)

(This came up during slow fire prone when I remarked that many of the guys on the line weren't being very observant at the time of shifting their NPOA) ::)
The things guys will do for their fellow Riflemen! ;D ;)
In my many years I have come to a conclusion that one useless man is a shame, two is a law firm and three or more is a congress.

- John Adams

sespe

#4
March 10, 2009, 03:11:49 AM
Quote from: HollywoodMarine on March 09, 2009, 02:43:07 PM
Well I was hoping that the video would be up on U-tube first but Sespe gave us a small class and demonstration of the black powder rifle and it use. He fired three rounds as fast as he could at the 100yd Red Coat target in 2min and 15 sec  :~ and scoring one hit and two very close misses. If there was a 30 cal rule for Black Powder he would have had them O0 I have to say it gave me a great deal of respect for those men on April 19,1775 and what they had to work with and the skill it would take to do what they did. I hope that there will be some pics up on the board soon of the shoot. &)
                                                                                                            HM


I didn't mean that presentation.  That was ugly.  I meant the new hat(s) given out later.

Oh, and I laughed so hard at the "watch men's butts" line that I dropped a shot or two.  That's my excu story and I'm sticking to it.

Edit:  bought a new 10/22 today, found out my buddy did also.  We should be practiced by April.
I appeal to you again to constantly bear in mind that with you, and not with politicians, not with Presidents, not with office-seekers, but with you, is the question, "Shall the Union and shall the liberties of this country be preserved to the latest generation?"  -Abraham Lincoln

LayloPro

#5
March 10, 2009, 04:46:29 AM Last Edit: March 11, 2009, 12:01:34 AM by Laylopro
Hey guys,

it sounds like you all had a great time, & that's one of the most important things of this program....it is -serious-, but we all still need to be able to have some fun with it.......

Sespe, sounds like you "got it", from your postings......Charcoal burners are not the "smooth operating, low drag, high speed" things so many have been accustomed to operating...it takes a special skill to do that......but a Rifleman persists......and overcomes.....

And I wonder if anybody "notices" -what- sort of Marine HM is? Or where he's from? Could that be it?? ++) **) <:)

Lava, Rome was not built in a day......we'll be seeing you at the IBC....
And I don't want some guys standing around saying they want to see other guys butts wiggling either!! &)

Meanwhile, have fun!!
"The truth only hurts if you're guilty." 

"Fast / cheap / good....you only get 2....Your choice."

"Amateurs talk hardware. Professionals talk software. It doesn't matter what's in your hand or between your legs. It matters what's in your heart and in your mind." Lt Col. Dave Grossman.

HollywoodMarine

#6
March 10, 2009, 05:59:30 AM Last Edit: March 10, 2009, 06:01:20 AM by HollywoodMarine
HEY NOW!  &) I WAS BORN  IN HOLLYWOOD !@#) NOT WEST HOOLYWOOD   >:(
And for the multi colored hats.  Yes I got a red Hat Sunday  O0 and as soon as V put it on Did BOB 210 Grab it off my head and slammed a Green one On  :D But enough about me where are those PICS  &)
A wise man can learn from a fool, but a fool cannot learn even from a wise man.

Embrace the suck!

LayloPro

#7
March 10, 2009, 07:38:21 AM
 **) **) **) **) **) **) **) ++)

Now Joe, you're not gonna get all "sensitive" on us, are ya?? 8)

Yeah...where are your pics?  >:D ^-^

I'm old & tired, and I still got ours up..... **) :~ :~

BTW, did you folks use any "after Shoot Survey Sheets?" Curious as to your questions/answers......

Oh, yeah, we had some really nice cake too......check a look.....I love the expression on SoCals' face when he saw it.... O0 O0 O0 ^-^

"The truth only hurts if you're guilty." 

"Fast / cheap / good....you only get 2....Your choice."

"Amateurs talk hardware. Professionals talk software. It doesn't matter what's in your hand or between your legs. It matters what's in your heart and in your mind." Lt Col. Dave Grossman.

Cal 7.62

#8
March 10, 2009, 08:34:01 AM
I just feel older and tireder. $$-0 I'll get the pic's up tonite.  O0
"Let us therefore rely upon the goodness of the Cause, and the aid of the Supreme Being, in whose hands Victory is, to animate and encourage us to great and noble actions - The Eyes of all our countrymen are now upon us..." - George Washington

andysurfs

#9
March 10, 2009, 10:03:17 PM
I just wanted to thank all the instructors for being so helpful this weekend. We will, no doubt, be back. (possibly april 19th.) Even though we aren't "Rifleman Experts", (yet) my wife Tami and I would like to help out wherever we can. Please let us know how we can help (gun shows, shoots, flyers, etc). We live in Ventura, so we're pretty close to Piru, but we could travel if needed. Hat tip to Phil, aka. V, for being so patient with my two boys, Cameron and Hayden. You made a lasting impression on them.

Andy, Tami, Cameron and Hayden


"You will never know how much it has cost my generation to preserve your freedom. I hope you will make good use of it."
~ John Quincy Adams

El Topo

#10
March 10, 2009, 10:07:53 PM
Well to add a quick report from some new seeders. . .

My lady and I came out for both days and flat out had a blast, literally and figurtively.  We came in on day one and both of us couldn't hit a redcoat from 100 yrds out, by the end of the second day we were both gaining some degree of accuracy. She scored the head shot on the last Redcoat and 2/3 at 400 yrds, I ended up shooting a 196 for an AQT. Both of us had no shooting experience AT ALL prior to last weekend, so for us we thought we were doing great. The crew of instructors were bar-none, super helpful, informative, and supportive. Definitely will see us out there again. Just want to thank all the guys again for all their help and guidance.

BTW we have some pics and (i think) some video from the weekend that we will get up soon. Where should we post them for all to see?

Dave & Monica
The future belongs to those who prepare for it. - Ralph Waldo Emerson

SavageShootr

#11
March 10, 2009, 11:22:09 PM
andysurfs and ElTopo. Welcome!!
Congratulations to all of you on your first Appleseed.

Pics can be added by using the additional options over in the lower left side just below the box that you write in.

I hope to see all of you at a future Appleseed.

It sounds like you all had a really good Appleseed up there in Piru. Congratulations to all of the Instructors and all of the participants. Well done.

~SS
"Listen to everyone, read everything, and don't believe anything unless you can prove it."' B.C.
"It isn't like it is life or death...it is more important than that." MrPete

Cal 7.62

#12
March 10, 2009, 11:37:58 PM
After being off the AS trail for 2 months, it sure felt good to be back at Appleseed. We had a wonderful group of folks who toughed it out all weekend (most of them anyway). We had Kevin who came all the way from Eureka,Ca. just to shoot at AS (he didn't know about the Sacto shoot). Now that's rifleman material O0. Not to say that the other shooters were any less rifleman material either. They all had the right stuff. With more persistence they'll be riflemen and women. Hope to see you folks back at another AS  ;). I was good to be working with familiar instructors and great meeting some new ones.
"Let us therefore rely upon the goodness of the Cause, and the aid of the Supreme Being, in whose hands Victory is, to animate and encourage us to great and noble actions - The Eyes of all our countrymen are now upon us..." - George Washington

kook

#13
March 11, 2009, 01:14:29 AM
I knew appleseed was going to be awesome...but it was so much cooler then I could have imagined ! Appleseed is exactly what I needed and have been looking for. To think I found it in California. I learned so much. I can only thank you guys, and promise that I will be back with friends...and I will persist until I too am a riflemen. ...absolutely the funnest history class I ever attended! :)
                                                                                                                                                   kevin

Cal 7.62

#14
March 11, 2009, 01:17:48 AM
Pics from Piru
"Let us therefore rely upon the goodness of the Cause, and the aid of the Supreme Being, in whose hands Victory is, to animate and encourage us to great and noble actions - The Eyes of all our countrymen are now upon us..." - George Washington

eaglescouter

#15
March 11, 2009, 01:20:12 AM
How did the Mossburg M44 that Rico used work out?
Old Guy:  Do it long enough and you get really good at it.

Rifleman:  Sacramento:  Four Ought Nine
Full Distance:  Red Bluff:  What year was that?
Pistoleer™:  Hat Creek:  Three Twenty One

Make yourselves good scouts and good rifle shots in order to protect the women and children of your country if it should ever become necessary.
--Lord Baden-Powell
Scouting for Boys (1908)

Cal 7.62

#16
March 11, 2009, 01:29:56 AM
He seemed to do alright with it. He kept up with the course of fire.
"Let us therefore rely upon the goodness of the Cause, and the aid of the Supreme Being, in whose hands Victory is, to animate and encourage us to great and noble actions - The Eyes of all our countrymen are now upon us..." - George Washington

Cal 7.62

#17
March 11, 2009, 01:31:49 AM
More Pics
"Let us therefore rely upon the goodness of the Cause, and the aid of the Supreme Being, in whose hands Victory is, to animate and encourage us to great and noble actions - The Eyes of all our countrymen are now upon us..." - George Washington

Cal 7.62

#18
March 11, 2009, 01:34:21 AM
Some more pics
"Let us therefore rely upon the goodness of the Cause, and the aid of the Supreme Being, in whose hands Victory is, to animate and encourage us to great and noble actions - The Eyes of all our countrymen are now upon us..." - George Washington

Cal 7.62

#19
March 11, 2009, 01:39:26 AM Last Edit: March 11, 2009, 01:42:02 AM by Cal 7.62
Here are more pics.
"Let us therefore rely upon the goodness of the Cause, and the aid of the Supreme Being, in whose hands Victory is, to animate and encourage us to great and noble actions - The Eyes of all our countrymen are now upon us..." - George Washington

Wolverine

#20
March 11, 2009, 02:05:22 AM
I want to chime and and give kudos to the instructors at the Piru AS; all of you guys were outstanding!  Thanks for all your dedication and the time you devote to teaching.  Your students appreciate it.  I know I do.

It was a great experience, with a great group of people.  I can't wait to come back for another go at the AQT.  I told a friend of mine about Appleseed tonight and I think I'll be bringing him along soon.  O0  Someday, the wife and kids, too. 

Mike

Jet Set

#21
March 12, 2009, 04:32:06 AM
Hey Everyone,

Stefi and I want to thank everyone for the great Appleseed experience!  We both had a great time and met great people.  I'm planning on going again on May 23-24.  Stefi can't make it since she will be in Slovakia then, but I'm going to be in California then. I am passing the word around and inviting other people.  Anyone else going to attend then?

SavageShootr

#22
March 12, 2009, 03:16:14 PM
Kook, Wolverine, and JetSet,

Congratulations on your first Appleseed and getting off the couch.

Welcome to the forum. See you all on the Appleseed trail.

~SS
"Listen to everyone, read everything, and don't believe anything unless you can prove it."' B.C.
"It isn't like it is life or death...it is more important than that." MrPete

asminuteman

#23
March 12, 2009, 11:50:35 PM Last Edit: May 15, 2012, 08:55:26 PM by asminuteman
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"He who dares not offend cannot be honest." ~ Thomas Paine

"He that would make his own liberty secure, must guard even his enemy from oppression; for if he violates this duty, he establishes a precedent that will reach to himself."~ Thomas Paine

I know of no way to judge the future, then by the past. -Thomas Paine

sespe

#24
March 14, 2009, 02:15:29 AM
Thanks to Jet Set and his amazing video phone, this is me doing the muzzleloading rifle demonstration on Sunday.  I kind of forgot the part about "smooth equals fast", so please ignore the fumbling.  And my wife tells me I really need to get new shooting glasses...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A6g-IOjUTlQ
I appeal to you again to constantly bear in mind that with you, and not with politicians, not with Presidents, not with office-seekers, but with you, is the question, "Shall the Union and shall the liberties of this country be preserved to the latest generation?"  -Abraham Lincoln

rock-chucker

#25
March 15, 2009, 12:04:34 AM
Hi all:

I finallly got around to reading all the AARs from this shoot.  Looks like I missed a good one!

First off, welcome all you new Appleseeders.  I love seeing all these "newbies" ! 

I was hoping to see some Rifleman patches, but I know they'll come with this crew.

Very cool video, Sespe.  You looked pretty darn smooth to me.  Nevertheless, I was thinking about them redcoats running in with their bayonets just as you were getting the next ball rammed down!  thanks for bringing that flinter of yours, and demonstrating some of the realities of Revolutionary War riflery.

Hope you all will be out in April.  In the meanwhile, dry fire practice and figure out where you're gonna sew on your rifleman patches!

Looking forward to meetin you all on the trail.

R-C

PS:  Congratulations on your new hats, HM!  Well done, my friend.

HollywoodMarine

#26
March 16, 2009, 04:19:17 AM
Thank You Sespe for posting that link, If you ask me that WAS FAST   :~ for back then. Hope to see you soon with a riflemens patch on that outfit  ;)
A wise man can learn from a fool, but a fool cannot learn even from a wise man.

Embrace the suck!

Jet Set

#27
March 17, 2009, 04:02:12 AM
At Hollywood's request, here is a scan of the winning target from the Stars competition on Sunday afternoon. 

Anyway, I think that there are several that are going to make Rifleman on their 2nd Appleseed.  I'm going to the May 23-24th one at Piru; hope I succeed there!

kook

#28
March 17, 2009, 07:27:01 PM
Hey, I am moving from Eureka to Simi Valley in a few weeks...I will be looking for good people to practice and learn with and a new range to call my own. Do you guys use the Piru range when it is not an appleseed event? I'd like to say I was sure I could make it to appleseed in April, but finding a new job has to be my first priority...maybe the boot camp in june :)

V

#29
March 17, 2009, 07:30:42 PM
Welcome Kook,

When you get down here drop me a line. I live in Simi and shoot at Piru all the time. There is a public range and many other club ranges, 3-gun, SASS, IPSC, IDPA, Steel Challenge, etc in addition to the Appleseed DAR.

Cheers
Phil
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