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Offline HollywoodMarine

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Is this a Good Idea ?
« on: March 03, 2009, 04:26:44 PM »
I have been throwing an idea around in my head  ++); I have noticed one of the best ways to get people to listen about Appleseed at gun shows is to tell them it is free  >:D What I was thinking is a flyer that has a heeding in big bold letters SHOOT FOR FREE. Then underneath explain all the rules  ;). This should be an Appleseed wide flyer that could be used anywhere. I am thinking about using it at reserve and National Guard stations, Boy Scout meetings . What you think   ++)
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Re: Is this a Good Idea ?
« Reply #1 on: March 03, 2009, 04:49:56 PM »
Yep, I got one just like that and I think I got it here: http://appleseedinfo.org/smf/index.php?topic=5291.0
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Re: Is this a Good Idea ?
« Reply #2 on: March 04, 2009, 12:50:12 AM »
Saying it's free while surrounded by those that it applies to, is the limit of my comfort zone, at a gun show that's not completely true.

Call me weird but, as irreverent as I am (and even my wife agrees I AM), Appleseed comes as close to sacred as it gets, I tip my hat to Fred, and I'm envious of his stroke of genius (and hard work I'm sure). I hope I never leave any person I've talked to with the feeling that they've been mislead in the slightest. I'd rather ride a unicycle while juggling bowling pins to get peoples attention than to even appear to offer them something that's not 100% true.
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Re: Is this a Good Idea ?
« Reply #3 on: April 22, 2009, 02:40:08 PM »
Saying it's free while surrounded by those that it applies to, is the limit of my comfort zone, at a gun show that's not completely true.

I generally attend the gun shows with BD. When I see women and children, I let them know that they, like I did, shoot for free. I let them know that's how I got to my first Appleseed ( and second, and going on third) FWIW
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Re: Is this a Good Idea ?
« Reply #4 on: April 22, 2009, 02:59:16 PM »
Saying it's free while surrounded by those that it applies to, is the limit of my comfort zone, at a gun show that's not completely true.

Call me weird but, as irreverent as I am (and even my wife agrees I AM), Appleseed comes as close to sacred as it gets, I tip my hat to Fred, and I'm envious of his stroke of genius (and hard work I'm sure). I hope I never leave any person I've talked to with the feeling that they've been mislead in the slightest. I'd rather ride a unicycle while juggling bowling pins to get peoples attention than to even appear to offer them something that's not 100% true.


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I can't think of a faster way to screw up the Appleseed program in my area (Texas Panhandle) than to mislead people about any portion of it.  I'm careful to describe RWVA as an "American Heritage organization with an outstanding marksmanship program.  At an Appleseed you'll learn a lot about rifle marksmanship and a lot more about the events of April 19, 1775.  The program is free to youth under 20, women, and active Military, Guard, and Reserve, but Guys 21 and over pay $70 for two days.  There's no such thing as a Free Lunch."  I've yet to have a complaint from the payees.
« Last Edit: April 22, 2009, 03:03:12 PM by ashrn03 »
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Re: Is this a Good Idea ?
« Reply #5 on: April 22, 2009, 03:00:44 PM »
Oops - messed up an edit.
« Last Edit: April 22, 2009, 03:02:36 PM by ashrn03 »
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Re: Is this a Good Idea ?
« Reply #6 on: April 22, 2009, 03:17:17 PM »
Of course the idea here is not to mislead folks, but to draw them to the gun show table by directing their focus to those attendees that are free, ie women. 20 and under and active military. Assume honest intentions.
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Re: Is this a Good Idea ?
« Reply #7 on: April 22, 2009, 03:47:01 PM »
Why not hand out the Free Target flyers?
The website address is on them in a couple of places.
So is a short explanation of what goes on at a shoot.   

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Re: Is this a Good Idea ?
« Reply #8 on: April 22, 2009, 11:43:09 PM »
Of course the idea here is not to mislead folks, but to draw them to the gun show table by directing their focus to those attendees that are free, ie women. 20 and under and active military. Assume honest intentions.

I know the intent is good, never doubted it for a second.

It's just that the speaker must have the ability to clear up any misconceptions that might be caused by the approach. I have every confidence that Bob 210 can do that every time (I would buy a used car from him!) but I like to think I'm aware of my own limitations. I seem to be able to make myself misunderstood regularly without taking chances like the above approach.

Bottom line, each person must make the call whether or not they can pull off the "IT'S FREE*" approach.

(*for women and children, etc.)
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Re: Is this a Good Idea ?
« Reply #9 on: April 23, 2009, 01:12:13 AM »
Sorry, I haven't read the whole thread yet.... But..... What I have done at a gunshow is....Wait until a young person or woman walks by with a disinterested look on their face.... I start a conversation by asking the person..... Would YOU be interested in attending a free shooting clinic??....When whomever they are with joins in the conversation I immediately explain the FREE promotion and it's limitations/criteria...That seemed to work well.

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Re: Is this a Good Idea ?
« Reply #10 on: April 29, 2009, 01:06:51 PM »
Why not hand out the Free Target flyers?
The website address is on them in a couple of places.
So is a short explanation of what goes on at a shoot.   

I will actually be implementing this at the Paso Robles (Ca) gun show next month, as well as offering the riflemans challenge to those willing to step up.
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Re: Is this a Good Idea ?
« Reply #11 on: April 29, 2009, 01:09:07 PM »
Sorry, I haven't read the whole thread yet.... But..... What I have done at a gunshow is....Wait until a young person or woman walks by with a disinterested look on their face.... I start a conversation by asking the person..... Would YOU be interested in attending a free shooting clinic??....When whomever they are with joins in the conversation I immediately explain the FREE promotion and it's limitations/criteria...That seemed to work well.

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That's a good one wheeler, I'll have to try it out.  along with my gunshow split personality --BD  O0
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