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We lost a good one
« on: November 11, 2020, 09:41:16 AM »
It is with extreme sadness that I learned that my good friend and fellow Appleseeder Glen Smoak (Smoakingun) was killed yesterday in a car accident. His wife Christie was severely injured in the accident and is in an ICU in Gainesville. Please pray for Christie and the family in this time of tragedy.
« Last Edit: November 11, 2020, 12:40:00 PM by 9mm4545 »
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Re: We lost a good one
« Reply #1 on: November 11, 2020, 09:46:02 AM »
This Hurts so much, He will be missed.
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Re: We lost a good one
« Reply #2 on: November 11, 2020, 10:30:08 AM »
Prayers for all the family.  So sad.  He will be greatly missed.
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Re: We lost a good one
« Reply #3 on: November 11, 2020, 01:21:37 PM »
Dear lord - please welcome Glen with open arms. And watch over Christie.
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Re: We lost a good one
« Reply #4 on: November 11, 2020, 01:37:26 PM »
So sad to hear this, it will be so hard on the family, both blood and Appleseed. You will all be in my prayers.
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Re: We lost a good one
« Reply #5 on: November 11, 2020, 02:01:40 PM »
Putnam County, FL (November 11, 2020) - One person was killed and four others suffered injuries following a crash on State Road 100 in Putnam County. The crash took place just before 5:00 p.m. on Tuesday, November 10th.

The Florida Highway Patrol responded to the crash scene. According to troopers, a 59-year old woman from Palatka was traveling westbound on SR 100 when she lost control of her vehicle, causing it to swerve off the roadway and strike a guardrail. The car then traveled back onto the roadway and collided head-on with a second car. A third vehicle collided with the back of the second vehicle following the head-on crash.

A 47-year-old man (Glen Smoak) driving the second vehicle was killed in the crash with a 46-year-old female passenger in that car suffered serious injuries. The 59-year-old driver of the first vehicle also sustained serious injuries. Two others sustained only minor injuries as a result of the crash.
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Re: We lost a good one
« Reply #6 on: November 11, 2020, 02:48:34 PM »
I had the privilege of giving him his red hat. I shared shoots,  meals and hotel rooms with him. And once, an evening of sipping moonshine. He was a great patriot, an enormous asset for the program and a fine man. I'll miss him. And I'm not the only one.

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Re: We lost a good one
« Reply #7 on: November 11, 2020, 09:04:56 PM »
Prayers for him and his family.

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« Reply #8 on: November 12, 2020, 12:28:12 AM »
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« Reply #9 on: November 12, 2020, 07:42:08 AM »
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Re: We lost a good one
« Reply #10 on: November 12, 2020, 09:38:34 AM »
He was a good one, for sure!  Prayers to Christie and the Smoak family.
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« Reply #11 on: November 12, 2020, 12:05:09 PM »
Some pics from over the years.
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« Reply #12 on: November 12, 2020, 10:12:32 PM »
Prayers for his family and fellow instructors!
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Re: We lost a good one
« Reply #13 on: November 12, 2020, 10:20:56 PM »
Summary and Update on Christi . #1
Since not everyone got the updates, the shared info is summarized below followed by latest known info. Posting will be done on state board here to allow everyone who loved Smoak to get info.

News Article. No names mentioned but we think this is the report.
https://www.news4jax.com/traffic/2020/11/11/1-dead-4-injured-in-3-car-crash-in-putnam-county/

Shands Cancer Hospital at Univ of FL, 1515 SW Archer Road, Gainesville, FL

Unconscious. A fracture in Left leg was “set”. Her broken arm is in a cast. Broken ribs injured her heart and required heart surgery.

Looks like a stroke is now affecting left side. Clot formed from heart injury suspected to cause stroke. She remains sedated with breathing tube although she is breathing on her own. She has a feeding tube.

Only the son, Greg,  has been allowed in room and must first go through elaborate gown, glove procedure to protect against infection before entering the room. Daughter, Elizabeth, has not been allowed in as the limit for visitors is 1 only and no switch outs. Family members and neighbors have been in a waiting area. Sooooo hard for them!

No info on services for Glen Smoak yet.

Check back here for future updates as they become known.

One of Smoaks close neighbors asked if the AS folks were going to do something to honor Smoak.
IMHO The AS cadre really should do something to honor...perhaps a 21 gun salute or a memorial similar to our April 19 memorials with rounds ringing steels (at proper distance). Smoak loved that!
Obviously we need a place that can handle it. A gathering of all instructors who knew Smoak at a central-ish location would be really special. If not possible, multiple synchronized memorial shoots at multiple locations. Take pictures or videos and post to share. Ideas? Suggestions?
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« Reply #14 on: November 12, 2020, 10:49:47 PM »
Summary and Update on Christi .
Since not everyone got the updates, the shared info is summarized below followed by latest known info. Posting will be done on state board here to allow everyone who loved Smoak to get info.

News Article. No names mentioned but we think this is the report.
https://www.news4jax.com/traffic/2020/11/11/1-dead-4-injured-in-3-car-crash-in-putnam-county/

Shands Cancer Hospital at Univ of FL, 1515 SW Archer Road, Gainesville, FL

Unconscious. A fracture in Left leg was “set”. Her broken arm is in a cast. Broken ribs injured her heart and required heart surgery.

Looks like a stroke is now affecting left side. Clot formed from heart injury suspected to cause stroke. She remains sedated with breathing tube although she is breathing on her own. She has a feeding tube.

Only the son, Greg,  has been allowed in room and must first go through elaborate gown, glove procedure to protect against infection before entering the room. Daughter, Elizabeth, has not been allowed in as the limit for visitors is 1 only and no switch outs. Family members and neighbors have been in a waiting area. Sooooo hard for them!

No info on services for Glen Smoak yet.

Check back here for future updates as they become known.

One of Smoaks close neighbors asked if the AS folks were going to do something to honor Smoak.
IMHO The AS cadre really should do something to honor...perhaps a 21 gun salute or a memorial similar to our April 19 memorials with rounds ringing steels (at proper distance). Smoak loved that!
Obviously we need a place that can handle it. A gathering of all instructors who knew Smoak at a central-ish location would be really special. If not possible, multiple synchronized memorial shoots at multiple locations. Take pictures or videos and post to share. Ideas? Suggestions?

It's tragic for the family and loved ones.  Everyone wants to do *something*... but what we can do right now is include Christi and her family in our prayers.

Talk to your SC and see what the Florida crew would like to do to honor him.  Perhaps a ceremony when Mrs. Smoak could attend would be comforting to her spirit.  Having fired more than one graveside volley, these happenings are to uplift and console the living as much as they honor the departed.

Let me know if we can be of any assistance in this endeavor as it unfolds.

Sad times, indeed.
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Re: We lost a good one
« Reply #15 on: November 12, 2020, 11:11:02 PM »
I am so sad to hear this news.  It is such a tragedy. 

The first time I met Smoak was very early in the morning prior to a Ladyseed at his home range.  He was "griping" at me for not waking him up in the middle of the night when we arrived, rather than sleeping in our car.  We arrived later than expected, and did not want to disturb him and Christi.  The next time we attended an Appleseed at their home range, we made sure to arrive as early as expected and they had a room ready for us.  They welcomed, not only Chuck and I into their home, but all Appleseeders.  Christi is in my prayers for a full recovery, both physically and emotionally. 

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Re: We lost a good one
« Reply #16 on: November 12, 2020, 11:14:15 PM »
My family and I were so sorry to hear about Smoak.  We're praying for Christie and their family.  We will always appreciate his dedication and passion.   Here is a photo of Smoak giving me my first Rifleman patch.

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« Reply #17 on: November 12, 2020, 11:20:00 PM »
Love the pic. Thanks for sharing gunfather.
Chuck & Duke from the Hollywood Range posted on my personalFB about flying the “Appleseed Colors”  at half mast  under the American flag. They also ate cookies in his honor.
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« Reply #18 on: November 12, 2020, 11:28:13 PM »
"One of Smoaks close neighbors asked if the AS folks were going to do something to honor Smoak.
IMHO The AS cadre really should do something to honor...perhaps a 21 gun salute or a memorial similar to our April 19 memorials with rounds ringing steels (at proper distance). Smoak loved that!
Obviously we need a place that can handle it. A gathering of all instructors who knew Smoak at a central-ish location would be really special. If not possible, multiple synchronized memorial shoots at multiple locations. Take pictures or videos and post to share. Ideas? Suggestions?"

We have a bunch of Locations and a lot of Instructors and Students That Knew Smoak. I think it would be fitting to do 21 gun Salutes, in Multiple places at the same time If possible. 7 shooters 3 rounds each, High power If Possible.  Oh Yes I do believe that Cookies, or Cake might be called for also.

Pray for Christi, and the Family. Please Rest in Peace Smoak, We will all try to Carry on Your Good works.

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Re: We lost a good one
« Reply #19 on: November 13, 2020, 01:01:49 AM »
What a terrible loss.... We lost a great man, and a friend of liberty. He will be missed.

Praying for the Smoak family and for a speedy recovery for Christi.

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Re: We lost a good one
« Reply #20 on: November 13, 2020, 07:59:07 AM »
Ana and I are stunned. We instantly bonded with Glen.
I love my fellow Appleseeders like family.
 :'(
May God Bless and keep his immortal soul.

Prayers for Christi and the family.
(Attached are pics I just took at Hernando a few weeks ago.)
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« Reply #21 on: November 13, 2020, 11:04:30 AM »
We must involve Bacon and Cookies.
My Favorite picture of him, from a Ladies Day event. He would do anything for people including wearing a pink Tiara for the Ladies.
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« Reply #22 on: November 13, 2020, 02:06:40 PM »
UPDATE on Christi Smoak. #2
This just in from family:
Mom broke her left metatarsal bone (foot) as well and it will need plates and surgery. They are continuing to monitor for additional strokes. There is hope that she will regain mobility in her left side, but she will most likely be partially blind in her left eye. She is still on feeding tube, breathing tube, and sedatives. She is slightly responsive to commands by moving her right hand.

Everyone please send your prayers for both Christi and the family.
Folks this new update is in addition to Christi’s heart surgery, broken ribs, arm and leg.😢
Sons wife, daughter and her husband continue to remain in waiting area while son Greg is the ONLY one allowed in. Strict mask, gown and glove procedures are followed each time son Greg enters.   Very hard for daughter not to be able to see her mom. These four young folks are showing so much love with their vigil. Smoaks raised good kids!
Daughter in law has brother with apartment nearby. Appleseeders Jean and Frank additionally offered their nearby home for naps and showers for the family.
Don’t know of any arrangements for Smoakingun yet
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« Reply #23 on: November 13, 2020, 06:23:00 PM »
So sad to hear this.
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« Reply #24 on: November 13, 2020, 06:57:50 PM »
This makes me heart-sick. Love and prayers to the Smoak family and all those Glen's smile, sense of humor, and support have touched. This sucks.
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« Reply #25 on: November 13, 2020, 09:36:38 PM »
I really don’t know what to say. I never met him but, after reading all of these comments, I wish that I had. It sounds like he was a wonderful person, and enjoyed life to it’s fullest. I’m certain that he will be sorely missed, and we are praying for his wife and family.
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« Reply #26 on: November 13, 2020, 11:25:14 PM »
Oh no! I made his name tag for him! Such a sad day. Prayers for his wife and family.
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« Reply #27 on: November 13, 2020, 11:41:03 PM »
It took me 2 days to be able to come here and write this.  My heart is broken and grieving the loss of a dear friend.  Here was a man who would give you the shirt off his back, a kind and generous soul who was always ready with a smile and a helping hand.  There are so many things I could say about him, but those who knew him already know.  Allow me to share some of my favorite pictures and memories of Smoak, who will never be forgotten.  He was like a brother to me.

My most fun Appleseeds were always with Smoak.  He was so playful and funny.  Our Gainesville cadre is a close-knit family and there will forever be a hole in our shoots where he should be.  We worked many Infernoseeds together! Smoak is the creator of our Florida Infernoseed patch:




Since Smoak did not have the courtesy to receive his red hat in Gainesville (sorry Malibar), we had to blow up his orange hat after the fact.  I think we did a good job:

Smoak loved to blow things up and don't even get me started about the time he blew up tannerite underneath an upside down wheelbarrow.  I think everyone who watched that video peed their pants laughing.

Smoak loved cookies.  And pie.  And donuts too.  This was the picture the Gainesville posse sent him when he missed a shoot in order to be at the NRA convention.  We made sure he regretted that decision:


The tiara!!  OMG this was the best Ladyseed ever!


One time, Smoak could not seem to get the safe rifle teaching straight, so we posted a reminder:


Just some random pictures:





Smoak, you had a big heart, razor-sharp wit, and you were one of the smartest people I've ever known.  And I know a lot of smart people  ;).  You loved liberty and you loved Appleseed.  You taught me so much, about shooting, about instructing, about how to talk to engineers ( ;D), and you were there for me with a supportive shoulder and a compassionate ear when I was going through some very tough times.  Always with humor and understanding.  I am so blessed to have known you.  I know Jesus received you with open arms, and that you are smiling down and watching over us.  You got to meet the founding fathers!  You're probably drinking an ale and picking their brains in a heavenly tavern. 

I'm praying for Christi, a faithful lover of God.  I know that He is watching over her and caring for her.  Please bring her through this trial with your grace Lord.

I miss you Smoak!  You live on in our hearts.







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Re: We lost a good one
« Reply #28 on: November 14, 2020, 05:22:15 AM »
I am utterly devastated at Glen's passing. For me, he was my best friend and like a brother. I met him at an event in Gainesville almost 10 years ago. I have the good fortune of living just 10 minutes from him which allowed me to spend quite a bit of time with him - time that I will never forget.

I personally cannot think of anyone who has done so much for so many. Even apart from Appleseed, he was a champion for the 2nd Amendment - constantly teaching men, women, and children to shoot at his home range. Someone on FB said something that I felt was very appropriate - For someone who wasn't a feminist, he empowered a lot of women by teaching them and giving them the skills they would need to defend themselves.

Appleseed memorializes people like Isaac Davis, and rightly so. I know none of us will forget Glen. He was an important part in many of our lives. I wonder if it is not too much to ask if something could done to officially honor his memory, possibly in a more permanent fashion. I'm not sure what that might be, whether a patch worn by instructors or a permanent mention on the Appleseed website - but just something that would endure for at least as long as the program endures.

I'm not really part of the program anymore so it might be out of line for me to request something like that, but if anyone is deserving,  I think it would be Glen. He did so much for so many and gave so much time to the program, I think it would be appropriate for it to give back in some way.

-Josh

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Re: We lost a good one
« Reply #29 on: November 14, 2020, 09:42:23 AM »
So well said Joshua. Some awesome ideas...will check. Had it not been for Appleseed, we would not have had the enormous privilege to meet Glen or Christi either.
The first ladyseed in the state was held at their property with Trisha as the shoot boss. Quite a few happened there after that and there was actually another private event scheduled for Jan at their home. Obviously that had to be taken off the schedule.
Over the years, whenever SBs were short at an event and Smoak was requested, he went. There was a long standing joke about Bruce making home made cookies as a “bribe“.  :1luvu :1luvu  Whenever Smoak showed up, it would likely be the equivalent of more than one instructor. If Smoak was there, everything would be alright. He worked so well with men, women, and children. Watching “daddy Smoak”  work with very fearful women or unruly kids was especially amazing. He was a master at convincing both students and instructors they could do seemingly impossible feats...not only at events but also in the grand adventure of life. Such a gentle Giant. Our brother. Our hero. He had beat a heart attack. He had beat cancer. We thought we had many more years to enjoy him. We were richly blessed to have had him in our lives. Humongous shoes to fill.
Attached photographic “proof” of Smoak at his property leading the pack in spreading hay he purchased for the first ladyseed event.  Yep, it covered so many mostly buried spent cartridges and made it “softer”  :1luvu
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