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Ash Hess's 100yd AQT Challenge
« on: November 30, 2019, 07:03:54 PM »
Afternoon, all!!

Poking around on social media the other day, I was called to look at a post on the page for Quantified Precision, LLC, and posted by none other than Ash Hess.

The challenge? 

Post a standard 25m AQT at 100 yards, and shoot a rifleman's score.

for those of you with facebook, here's the link to the post  https://www.facebook.com/QuantifiedPerformanceLLC/photos/a.398514274075495/501650940428494/?type=3&theater

This is the link to the Challenge web page  https://www.patreon.com/posts/31896800?fbclid=IwAR151Sud6GHmlWbdV9vIJGRnf-6bwToT4ZOHdhn2JMWossBxVlUkdLSyOwQ

This is simple, if not easy  ^-^

Go to your favorite range with an Appleseed friend.
Wear some Appleseed gear.
Post a standard AQT at 100 yards.
Shoot!  Score!  Take pictures!!!!

Post them to this thread!

I'll post them to the QP facebook page as they roll in.   Ramblin' Wreck, would this qualify as an honorable mention on the Team Appleseed page? We should probably set a time limit.... Say.... any time before New Year's Day?  Will that work?

I already have several cadre who've accepted the challenge:

ACPJunkie
VWMakesMeTwitchy
Jerry Hall
Carlos.A.Franco
HotAirBill
DesertRose
Myself
Mr. Smith
Captain
the Bonsells

Jerry and Bill want to try it with .22lr

Anybody else game?
« Last Edit: November 30, 2019, 07:18:03 PM by Mrs. Smith »
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Re: Ash Hess's 100yd AQT Challenge
« Reply #1 on: November 30, 2019, 08:37:48 PM »
what positons? scope of course
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Re: Ash Hess's 100yd AQT Challenge
« Reply #2 on: November 30, 2019, 10:51:25 PM »
what positons? scope of course

Exactly like the standard AQT, as I read it. The only thing different is distance.  Although... the web page says something about equipment you'd use for competition. Not entirely sure what that means. Stabilizing jackets, perhaps?
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Re: Ash Hess's 100yd AQT Challenge
« Reply #3 on: November 30, 2019, 11:05:34 PM »
Stage 4 -- the 5 point area is 1 " wide - 1 MoA at 100 yards. 4 point area  is 1.5 inches or 1.5 MoA @ 100 yards - I suspect the instructions to use the support equipment you would in competition means 100-yard bench rest competition.
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Re: Ash Hess's 100yd AQT Challenge
« Reply #4 on: November 30, 2019, 11:45:21 PM »
Stage 4 -- the 5 point area is 1 " wide - 1 MoA at 100 yards. 4 point area  is 1.5 inches or 1.5 MoA @ 100 yards - I suspect the instructions to use the support equipment you would in competition means 100-yard bench rest competition.

Could also mean NRA Highpower. Let me see if I can get clarification on that.
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Re: Ash Hess's 100yd AQT Challenge
« Reply #5 on: December 01, 2019, 01:11:00 AM »

We actually used to shoot various types non AQT type target shooting known as ‘Postal Matches’.
https://appleseedinfo.org/smf/index.php?topic=39058.0

The Advanced AQT, as we called it, was shot prone, bipod or off a shooting pack.
High score got bragging rights.  We still do these time permitting at our KD type events.
There are numerous variations or rules one can come up with.
These are great fun and a great camaraderie builder. :F

Remember, placing an AQT at 100 yards represents 400, 800, 1200 and 1600 yards. :snipersmi

So doing times, transitions and mag changes will provide all the challenge you want! ^:)^
You will find you might need a bit better rig and skills than our rack grade standard of 4 MOA.
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Re: Ash Hess's 100yd AQT Challenge
« Reply #6 on: December 01, 2019, 09:34:17 AM »
Going to give it a try after church this morning
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Re: Ash Hess's 100yd AQT Challenge
« Reply #7 on: December 01, 2019, 10:56:42 AM »
Going to give it a try after church this morning

Woo hoo!  Looking forward to hearing how it goes! You'll be the first of us to try it  :bow:
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Re: Ash Hess's 100yd AQT Challenge
« Reply #8 on: December 01, 2019, 09:09:27 PM »
Well. I sabotaged myself be heading to the range without the target.
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Re: Ash Hess's 100yd AQT Challenge
« Reply #9 on: December 01, 2019, 09:58:04 PM »
Well. I sabotaged myself be heading to the range without the target.

Oh no!!!  Ok, it's a LITTLE funny  **)

Next time!
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Re: Ash Hess's 100yd AQT Challenge
« Reply #10 on: December 14, 2019, 08:25:03 PM »
Ok, looks like a handful of us are tackling this tomorrow, weather permitting
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Re: Ash Hess's 100yd AQT Challenge
« Reply #11 on: December 15, 2019, 06:12:28 PM »
I DID say weather permitting, right? Light breeze quickly became 20+ sustained with 40mph gusts. Not exactly conducive to 1moa accuracy at distance **)

Better luck next weekend  :slap:
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Re: Ash Hess's 100yd AQT Challenge
« Reply #12 on: December 22, 2019, 10:12:01 PM »
Well we went, it was a BEAUTIFUL day, and we had a good time and learned a BUNCH.

We did NOT, however, successfully score a Rifleman's score on a standard AQT posted at 100 yards.   :-[

In attendance were Jerry Hall, Mr. Smith, VXMakesMeTwitchy, DesertRose, ACPJunkie, and myself.

Using only a sling, even ACPJunkie only managed scores in the 170s, and he's probably the strongest shooter in the group.   :bow:

The consensus is that the challenge simply isn't do-able using traditional Appleseed techniques.  With mainstream match gear and a bipod, maybe, but not with a sling only.   :wb:

The flipside is that EVERY SINGLE FLAW in the shooters' techniques, flaws that don't really hurt you at 25m, are stripped bare for the world to see when applied at 100 yards and attempting 1 MOA accuracy.  Boy, was that an eye-opener. :-\  That does make this challenge an extremely useful training tool. 

At any rate, we all had fun, and it was good to hang out and shoot together outside of an event and in a more social environment.   :partytime:

Cheers, ya'll.   :F

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Re: Ash Hess's 100yd AQT Challenge
« Reply #13 on: December 29, 2019, 09:58:41 PM »
Ran it today.


Dang! is all I can say.
145 was my total, i stopped at second target because i lost count of level 2 and put 6 holes in first target, bummer.
Plus the range was closing.
I did a few things for prep.
Got my 100 yard zero using squares.
I took the advice from Mrs. Smith post (cool hat btw) and worked from a supported base first.
I used my UKKD (unknown distance kd) scope 6x24.
Key, vital key Focus on the front post or reticle.
I hit 2 moa groupings on first two stages than my focus fell apart.
I will try again in a few days
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Re: Ash Hess's 100yd AQT Challenge
« Reply #14 on: December 29, 2019, 10:32:32 PM »
Ran it today.

Dang! is all I can say.
145 was my total, i stopped at second target because i lost count of level 2 and put 6 holes in first target, bummer.
Plus the range was closing.
I did a few things for prep.
Got my 100 yard zero using squares.
I took the advice from Mrs. Smith post (cool hat btw) and worked from a supported base first.
I used my UKKD (unknown distance kd) scope 6x24.
Key, vital key Focus on the front post or reticle.
I hit 2 moa groupings on first two stages than my focus fell apart.
I will try again in a few days

It's a bear, isn't it???  And you can't get away with ANYTHING.
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Re: Ash Hess's 100yd AQT Challenge
« Reply #15 on: December 30, 2019, 12:01:40 AM »
I’m gonna try this just for giggles. 

Heck of a challenge idea!