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Re: "Advanced" Rifleman patches
« Reply #30 on: January 04, 2018, 06:33:57 PM »
I thought the patch after Rifleman was the Instructor Rocker, followed up by the Shoot Boss rocker?
Why has this changed?
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Wait, we get rockers for those?!? I knew I was off my rocker around here! (also, is it a rocker if it's rectangular? My "long range" rocker is curved, presumably to go with the oval patch).

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Re: "Advanced" Rifleman patches
« Reply #31 on: January 04, 2018, 06:38:50 PM »
Love em....!!  Nice work!
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Re: "Advanced" Rifleman patches
« Reply #32 on: January 04, 2018, 06:40:28 PM »
I thought the patch after Rifleman was the Instructor Rocker, followed up by the Shoot Boss rocker?
Why has this changed?
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To get more people back out to the line and present new challenges. I know a lot of shooters love coming out but aren’t interested in instructing. I think it is great!
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Re: "Advanced" Rifleman patches
« Reply #33 on: January 04, 2018, 10:04:47 PM »
I like the patches. It will probably result in more shooters on the line.

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Re: "Advanced" Rifleman patches
« Reply #34 on: January 04, 2018, 11:16:10 PM »
I like the patches. It will probably result in more shooters on the line.

That's the hope.

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Re: "Advanced" Rifleman patches
« Reply #35 on: January 17, 2018, 08:10:25 PM »
I'd recommend requal.. if for volunteers/RH/SB's then I'd say SB discretion.. Not official policy, just my opinion...

YES!!!!!!!

Are these backdateable, or are all of us going to have to flop down on a mat and requalify?
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Re: "Advanced" Rifleman patches
« Reply #36 on: January 17, 2018, 08:11:41 PM »
This has not changed, but it'll give us several more shots (pun intended) at prior attendees who might now decide to step up...

I thought the patch after Rifleman was the Instructor Rocker, followed up by the Shoot Boss rocker?
Why has this changed?
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Re: "Advanced" Rifleman patches
« Reply #37 on: January 18, 2018, 04:22:55 PM »
This has not changed, but it'll give us several more shots (pun intended) at prior attendees who might now decide to step up...

I thought the patch after Rifleman was the Instructor Rocker, followed up by the Shoot Boss rocker?
Why has this changed?
2cl

The new tabs (I don't call them rockers because they aren't shaped like rockers) will bring repeat students to the line and provide more OPPORTUNITY for exposure to INSPIRING instructors.

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Re: "Advanced" Rifleman patches
« Reply #38 on: January 18, 2018, 04:36:40 PM »
YES!!!!!!!

Are these backdateable, or are all of us going to have to flop down on a mat and requalify?

Asked and answered

Retroactive?  Or just on new AQT's?

New AQT's. The idea of tha patches was to give folks a reason to come back to Appleseed and strive for new goals; not to give out patches retroactively. If they did it before, they should be able to do it again. Come back to Appleseed!
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Re: "Advanced" Rifleman patches
« Reply #39 on: February 19, 2018, 12:54:31 AM »
Waco had it's first "Distinguished" patch earned Saturday. Score was 240 scoped rifle. AWESOME!

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Re: "Advanced" Rifleman patches
« Reply #40 on: February 19, 2018, 03:42:36 PM »
Awesome!!  O0
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Re: "Advanced" Rifleman patches
« Reply #41 on: March 07, 2018, 03:58:24 PM »
Are there rockers for 240+ with irons on a *** KD AQT ***?  I shot a 210 with irons (in the cold rain, I might add) at the last KD shoot in New Braunfels back in November.  I did that with my NM A2 but I'm considering taking my M1A for the KD shoot later this month.  Should I chase the 240+ distinguished rocker and bring my AR again, or should I try for rifleman score at all with 30cal and irons?  240+ in a KD with an M1A and irons might be a stretch for me right now, but it's one I'd like to try for at some point.   Having rockers for 240+irons+KD or 30cal+irons+KD sounds like a fun challenge.

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Re: "Advanced" Rifleman patches
« Reply #42 on: March 07, 2018, 10:19:30 PM »
Are there rockers for 240+ with irons on a *** KD AQT ***?  I shot a 210 with irons (in the cold rain, I might add) at the last KD shoot in New Braunfels back in November.  I did that with my NM A2 but I'm considering taking my M1A for the KD shoot later this month.  Should I chase the 240+ distinguished rocker and bring my AR again, or should I try for rifleman score at all with 30cal and irons?  240+ in a KD with an M1A and irons might be a stretch for me right now, but it's one I'd like to try for at some point.   Having rockers for 240+irons+KD or 30cal+irons+KD sounds like a fun challenge.

No, there are no additional rockers for 240+ with irons on a KD AQT. The 240 distinguished rocker and the KD rocker would apply if the scores were attained after those patches came out. We can't make rockers for everything, but I hope you achieve and enjoy the ones we have.
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Re: "Advanced" Rifleman patches
« Reply #43 on: March 09, 2018, 06:13:05 PM »
it's great to know the Distinguished Patch exists.  Now, if I could figure out how to get my patch for shooting a 244 back in January? Yes, it was after the emails went out about the Distinguished Patch program. The SB didn't know anything about the program and said I would eventually get mine. Follow up with the SB two months later and he says there are no patches available.  Right now I'm not too impressed with the implementation of the program.
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Re: "Advanced" Rifleman patches
« Reply #44 on: March 10, 2018, 12:20:05 PM »
it's great to know the Distinguished Patch exists.  Now, if I could figure out how to get my patch for shooting a 244 back in January? Yes, it was after the emails went out about the Distinguished Patch program. The SB didn't know anything about the program and said I would eventually get mine. Follow up with the SB two months later and he says there are no patches available.  Right now I'm not too impressed with the implementation of the program.

The Distinguished patches are most certainly available! I was at supply 2 weeks ago and saw them. Don't be on these threads spouting that B.S.  :tsk:

The Distinguished patches have been available since the program was announced and the patch program was implemented properly. Others have been awarding those patches.
Right now, I'm not too impressed with the follow-up from either you or your SB. !@#)

Instead of coming on here and posting B.S. of the patches not being available and the program not being implemented right; how about the alternate approach of just asking?

Something like "I shot a 244 back in January after the emails went out about the Distinguished Patch program but my SB didn't have one. When will they be available?" OR send the same in a PM to Thaddeus or Cousin Hart in supply chain and CC your SB.
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Re: "Advanced" Rifleman patches
« Reply #45 on: March 10, 2018, 12:30:47 PM »
We're not sending out the 'Distinguished' patches en masse, but they are certainly available from supply.


Shoot bosses who witness someone shooting the criteria for award, or individuals who shoot the criteria (with shoot boss approval) can request a patch from supply.


Simply PM Thaddeus or Cousin Hart and we can get one sent right out.

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Re: "Advanced" Rifleman patches
« Reply #46 on: March 12, 2018, 10:52:00 PM »
Drrichp, what I posted was factual and not BS. I’m sorry if your feeling got hurt. That wasn’t my intention. I have spent three months waiting on my numerous requests to the SB to act. I really thought that was the proper channel.
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Re: "Advanced" Rifleman patches
« Reply #47 on: March 13, 2018, 10:10:43 AM »
Drrichp, what I posted was factual and not BS. I’m sorry if your feeling got hurt. That wasn’t my intention. I have spent three months waiting on my numerous requests to the SB to act. I really thought that was the proper channel.

My feelings are not hurt. The patches are, and have been available since the program was implemented. Any insinuation otherwise is not factual.

Your SB obviously did not know he needed to order them from supply. IF he had followed up with supply chain to ask, Thaddeus would have taken care of it. It doesn't seem as though that happened.

Comments like "Right now I'm not too impressed with the implementation of the program." on a forum thread as opposed to a simple PM or e-mail asking is never the best approach. Applying Occam's razor, which is more likely A) my SB doesn't have the patches and 2 mos later forgot to follow-up on how to get me one?; or B) the program is so incompetent they announced a program that 2 mos later still isn't implemented?  ??? Yeah, probably better to just ask.

I'm sorry if I seem sensitive. We ALL work very hard at the national level to be thoughtful and well planned and to do things well; from the AOC to Thaddeus and Cousin Hart in supply, to Scuzzy. All of us. To go on forums and see false criticism's like this (and it's not new), is getting old! Just ask first, just ask.

Have you gotten your patch yet? If not, please see what Thaddeus wrote:

We're not sending out the 'Distinguished' patches en masse, but they are certainly available from supply.

Shoot bosses who witness someone shooting the criteria for award, or individuals who shoot the criteria (with shoot boss approval) can request a patch from supply.

Simply PM Thaddeus or Cousin Hart and we can get one sent right out.

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Re: "Advanced" Rifleman patches
« Reply #48 on: March 14, 2018, 10:40:44 AM »
I don't know how to insert quotes in my posts, so I refer whoever is interested to DrRichP last post. A reference is made to Occams Razor Principle, which essentially states that "the explanation requiring the fewest assumptions is most likely to be correct".
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Re: "Advanced" Rifleman patches
« Reply #49 on: March 14, 2018, 08:04:49 PM »
I don't know how to insert quotes in my posts, so I refer whoever is interested to DrRichP last post. A reference is made to Occams Razor Principle, which essentially states that "the explanation requiring the fewest assumptions is most likely to be correct".
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