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AAR: Instructor KD - RWVA Range, Ramseur NC December 10, 2022, or...

Started by Monkey, December 12, 2022, 11:09:41 PM

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Monkey

December 12, 2022, 11:09:41 PM
...the alternate title, ♫ ♫ Instructors Just Wanna Have Fun ♫♫

What an AWESOME event at Ramseur this weekend!  12 instructors from FIVE states, to include Michigan and Indiana, converged on the RWVA range to accomplish several objectives:

- Have a great time!
- Enjoy each other's company in fellowship with some great Americans
- Learn something about your rifle(s)
- Get qualified (or re-qualified) in Known Distance
- Have a great time!

After some admin and academics, we spent the morning learning about our equipment, gaining DOPE using full size steel targets from 100-500 yards, all from the same firing line!  After hearing The Wolfhound's rendition of the story of the Battle of Cowpens, we spent the rest of the afternoon in full distance AQTs, closing out with a full distance Redcoat!

Thank you to everybody for making the trip out to the Home Range - it was wonderful meeting friends new and old, and I can't wait to do this again!

And because  :pics:, here are a few.

"5 minutes for this stage - that's like a week in people years!"

"Responsibility is a unique concept... You may share it with others, but your portion is not diminished. You may delegate it, but it is still with you... If responsibility is rightfully yours, no evasion, or ignorance or passing the blame can shift the burden to someone else. Unless you can point your finger at the man who is responsible when something goes wrong, then you have never had anyone really responsible.�
― Hyman G. Rickover

"Scoring is a function of great execution, and winning Is the result, but thinking about winning can pull your focus off of proper execution in a competition. Thinking about process is the answer."- Lanny Bassham

Monkey

#1
December 12, 2022, 11:11:23 PM
Some more pics.
"5 minutes for this stage - that's like a week in people years!"

"Responsibility is a unique concept... You may share it with others, but your portion is not diminished. You may delegate it, but it is still with you... If responsibility is rightfully yours, no evasion, or ignorance or passing the blame can shift the burden to someone else. Unless you can point your finger at the man who is responsible when something goes wrong, then you have never had anyone really responsible.�
― Hyman G. Rickover

"Scoring is a function of great execution, and winning Is the result, but thinking about winning can pull your focus off of proper execution in a competition. Thinking about process is the answer."- Lanny Bassham

Monkey

#2
December 12, 2022, 11:13:33 PM
And yet more pics.
"5 minutes for this stage - that's like a week in people years!"

"Responsibility is a unique concept... You may share it with others, but your portion is not diminished. You may delegate it, but it is still with you... If responsibility is rightfully yours, no evasion, or ignorance or passing the blame can shift the burden to someone else. Unless you can point your finger at the man who is responsible when something goes wrong, then you have never had anyone really responsible.�
― Hyman G. Rickover

"Scoring is a function of great execution, and winning Is the result, but thinking about winning can pull your focus off of proper execution in a competition. Thinking about process is the answer."- Lanny Bassham

Monkey

#3
December 12, 2022, 11:14:55 PM
A couple more pics.
"5 minutes for this stage - that's like a week in people years!"

"Responsibility is a unique concept... You may share it with others, but your portion is not diminished. You may delegate it, but it is still with you... If responsibility is rightfully yours, no evasion, or ignorance or passing the blame can shift the burden to someone else. Unless you can point your finger at the man who is responsible when something goes wrong, then you have never had anyone really responsible.�
― Hyman G. Rickover

"Scoring is a function of great execution, and winning Is the result, but thinking about winning can pull your focus off of proper execution in a competition. Thinking about process is the answer."- Lanny Bassham

Monkey

#4
December 12, 2022, 11:16:48 PM
Forgot to mention: FIVE new KD quals, with two add'l requals!
"5 minutes for this stage - that's like a week in people years!"

"Responsibility is a unique concept... You may share it with others, but your portion is not diminished. You may delegate it, but it is still with you... If responsibility is rightfully yours, no evasion, or ignorance or passing the blame can shift the burden to someone else. Unless you can point your finger at the man who is responsible when something goes wrong, then you have never had anyone really responsible.�
― Hyman G. Rickover

"Scoring is a function of great execution, and winning Is the result, but thinking about winning can pull your focus off of proper execution in a competition. Thinking about process is the answer."- Lanny Bassham

Monkey

#5
December 12, 2022, 11:18:48 PM
A couple more KD tabs!

I have a few more stashed in the interwebz somewhere; I'll post them when I find them.
"5 minutes for this stage - that's like a week in people years!"

"Responsibility is a unique concept... You may share it with others, but your portion is not diminished. You may delegate it, but it is still with you... If responsibility is rightfully yours, no evasion, or ignorance or passing the blame can shift the burden to someone else. Unless you can point your finger at the man who is responsible when something goes wrong, then you have never had anyone really responsible.�
― Hyman G. Rickover

"Scoring is a function of great execution, and winning Is the result, but thinking about winning can pull your focus off of proper execution in a competition. Thinking about process is the answer."- Lanny Bassham

Monkey

#6
December 12, 2022, 11:19:32 PM
What would a Appleseed family event be without a family photo?
"5 minutes for this stage - that's like a week in people years!"

"Responsibility is a unique concept... You may share it with others, but your portion is not diminished. You may delegate it, but it is still with you... If responsibility is rightfully yours, no evasion, or ignorance or passing the blame can shift the burden to someone else. Unless you can point your finger at the man who is responsible when something goes wrong, then you have never had anyone really responsible.�
― Hyman G. Rickover

"Scoring is a function of great execution, and winning Is the result, but thinking about winning can pull your focus off of proper execution in a competition. Thinking about process is the answer."- Lanny Bassham

OldDominionIron

#7
December 13, 2022, 04:57:41 AM
What a phenomenal time, can't wait to do it again. Great to meet new friends from all over.
"(Were) they nourished by your indulgence? They grew by your neglect of them. As soon as you began to care about them, that care was exercised in sending persons to rule over them, in one department and another…Sent to spy out their liberty, to misrepresent their actions and to prey upon them; men whose behaviour on many occasions has caused the blood of these sons of liberty to recoil within them."
      -Isaac Barre

BrotherPilot

#8
December 13, 2022, 08:51:46 AM
 ^:)^ ^:)^ ^:)^  And a few more of those!  What a great day!  Thank you to Monkey and The Wolfhound for so ably running the event, and a big thank you to all who attended!

And a thank you again to Monkey for the Christmas gifts!  He ran the academics, appropriately attired with a green hat.  New forum handle: ShootBoss Santa?
Jay
VA State Coordinator
540-855-4651
"It does not take a majority to prevail ... but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brushfires of freedom in the minds of men."•Samuel Adams
Diligentia Vis Celeritas

Catch-10-22

#9
December 13, 2022, 10:00:21 AM
Fantastic event - thank you to all!

Even though we teach KD basics at every event and run some RKD events in our area, a full distance KD is a great reminder that this stuff works if you apply your fundamentals and make the shot (not that it is easy!). It was fun to qualify with 556 and 762 - all irons next time!

Always great to refill the tank of camaraderie with the best bunch of people you could meet from all over the country. We are truly blessed to have each other.

Maximum Ordinate

#10
December 13, 2022, 07:34:32 PM
 O0
Appleseed Math is simple:  Rack grade rifle + surplus ball ammo + rock solid fundamentals = hits on target out to 500 yards

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Messer

#11
December 13, 2022, 09:47:00 PM
What a great day!!!!!

My thanks to Monkey, BrotherPilot & Wolfhound for making this event happen! It was a pleasure to share the range with everyone that attended.

Between the stories, jokes, shooting and smiles, the only thing that could make it better would be to do more of it!  :beer:

If others have pictures, please post them.

Stay vigilant,
Messer
Today's mighty oak is just yesterday's nut that held its ground.

BillP_556

#12
December 13, 2022, 10:40:06 PM
Is that family photo in distress?? 

Quote from: Monkey on December 12, 2022, 11:19:32 PM
What would a Appleseed family event be without a family photo?

Funzies all around last Fri/Saturday!  Thanks to the very far traveling cadre to shoot with us!!
"The Revolution was in the Minds of the People, and this was effected, from 1760 to 1775, in the course of fifteen Years before a drop of blood was drawn at Lexington."
John Adams to Thomas Jefferson, 24 August 1815

Monkey

#13
December 13, 2022, 10:49:58 PM
Quote from: BillP_556 on December 13, 2022, 10:40:06 PM
Is that family photo in distress?? 

Quote from: Monkey on December 12, 2022, 11:19:32 PM
What would a Appleseed family event be without a family photo?

Funzies all around last Fri/Saturday!  Thanks to the very far traveling cadre to shoot with us!!

I can't even explain why it uploaded upside down.  It was correct when I added it... #) :wb:  **)
"5 minutes for this stage - that's like a week in people years!"

"Responsibility is a unique concept... You may share it with others, but your portion is not diminished. You may delegate it, but it is still with you... If responsibility is rightfully yours, no evasion, or ignorance or passing the blame can shift the burden to someone else. Unless you can point your finger at the man who is responsible when something goes wrong, then you have never had anyone really responsible.�
― Hyman G. Rickover

"Scoring is a function of great execution, and winning Is the result, but thinking about winning can pull your focus off of proper execution in a competition. Thinking about process is the answer."- Lanny Bassham

Monkey

#14
December 14, 2022, 12:16:17 AM
Quote from: ShootBoss SantaI have a few more stashed in the interwebz somewhere; I'll post them when I find them.

Found them!
"5 minutes for this stage - that's like a week in people years!"

"Responsibility is a unique concept... You may share it with others, but your portion is not diminished. You may delegate it, but it is still with you... If responsibility is rightfully yours, no evasion, or ignorance or passing the blame can shift the burden to someone else. Unless you can point your finger at the man who is responsible when something goes wrong, then you have never had anyone really responsible.�
― Hyman G. Rickover

"Scoring is a function of great execution, and winning Is the result, but thinking about winning can pull your focus off of proper execution in a competition. Thinking about process is the answer."- Lanny Bassham

Monkey

#15
December 14, 2022, 12:17:15 AM
And last one!
"5 minutes for this stage - that's like a week in people years!"

"Responsibility is a unique concept... You may share it with others, but your portion is not diminished. You may delegate it, but it is still with you... If responsibility is rightfully yours, no evasion, or ignorance or passing the blame can shift the burden to someone else. Unless you can point your finger at the man who is responsible when something goes wrong, then you have never had anyone really responsible.�
― Hyman G. Rickover

"Scoring is a function of great execution, and winning Is the result, but thinking about winning can pull your focus off of proper execution in a competition. Thinking about process is the answer."- Lanny Bassham

Messer

#16
December 14, 2022, 09:21:18 AM
For those interested, Vaportrace showed a few of us an interesting feature on the RWVA Range.

Indian Marker Trees

Trail trees, trail marker trees, crooked trees, prayer trees, thong trees, or culturally modified trees are hardwood trees throughout North America that Native Americans intentionally shaped with distinctive characteristics that convey that the tree was shaped by human activity rather than deformed by nature or disease.[1] A massive network of constructed pre-Columbian roads and trails have been well documented across the Americas, and in many places remnants can still be found of trails used by hunters and gatherers. One unique characteristic of the trail marker tree is a horizontal bend several feet off the ground, which makes it visible at greater distances, even in snow. Even today, modern hunters look for horizontal shapes while hunting deer, elk, and moose.
Today's mighty oak is just yesterday's nut that held its ground.

ArmyVet

#17
December 14, 2022, 10:14:15 AM
Quote from: Monkey on December 12, 2022, 11:09:41 PM
...closing out with a full distance Redcoat!
Can you elaborate on this? I am either unfamiliar with the practice or terminology.
Thanks!
The difference between a novice and a master: the novice does it until they get it right. The master does it until they can't get it wrong.

Messer

#18
December 14, 2022, 10:54:03 AM Last Edit: December 14, 2022, 10:55:37 AM by Messer
Quote from: ArmyVet on December 14, 2022, 10:14:15 AM
Quote from: Monkey on December 12, 2022, 11:09:41 PM
...closing out with a full distance Redcoat!
Can you elaborate on this? I am either unfamiliar with the practice or terminology.
Thanks!

We had full size steel targets at 100, 200, 300 & 400 yards - we also had a steel "shingle" plate at 250 yards.

Each shooter on each of the 4 squads took turns - first, we all engaged the shingle to be as close to a cold bore shot as possible. Then we each took 3 shots at each distance - 100-400. It was a lot of fun!
Today's mighty oak is just yesterday's nut that held its ground.

Geek

#19
December 14, 2022, 12:43:18 PM
Kudos to the team that hosted this event.  I could not spend my weekend with a better group.  Those two with the M1 and M1a were in beast-mode.  I learned lot and smiled the entire time.  I have not seen mention of the incredible food we had too.  Thank you for the bringing and sharing.  I felt like a spoiled guest.

The kd red coat was the perfect way to conclude the shooting portion of our day.  It was new to me and a lot of fun to do with steel.

In case anyone is interested, I left Asheboro at 7am and got home after 11pm Sunday.   A priceless trip.
Dr. Joseph Warren, in his last letter to his mother, "Where danger is, dear mother, there must your son be... I will set [America] free or die".

Our cause is just . . . our country will be grateful - George Rogers Clark

"This country has been made by the Timothy Murphys, the men in the ranks. Conditions here called for qualities of heart and hand that Tim Murphy had in abundance. Our histories should tell us more about the men in the ranks, for it was to them, more than to the generals that we were indebted for our military victories." -  Franklin Delano Roosevelt, as New York Governor, 1929, at the dedication of the memorial to Murphy

ArmyVet

#20
December 14, 2022, 08:31:29 PM
Quote from: Messer on December 14, 2022, 10:54:03 AM
Quote from: ArmyVet on December 14, 2022, 10:14:15 AM
Quote from: Monkey on December 12, 2022, 11:09:41 PM
...closing out with a full distance Redcoat!
Can you elaborate on this? I am either unfamiliar with the practice or terminology.
Thanks!

We had full size steel targets at 100, 200, 300 & 400 yards - we also had a steel "shingle" plate at 250 yards.

Each shooter on each of the 4 squads took turns - first, we all engaged the shingle to be as close to a cold bore shot as possible. Then we each took 3 shots at each distance - 100-400. It was a lot of fun!
That sounds awesome! Thanks for the explanation  O0
The difference between a novice and a master: the novice does it until they get it right. The master does it until they can't get it wrong.

Jayshoneybunny

#21
December 14, 2022, 08:39:22 PM
A good time was had by all!  Didn't qualify but I'm not giving up.  Thanks for a great shoot and the swag! 
Issue the orders sir, and I will storm hell.- "Mad Anthony" Wayne to George Washington.

If this be treason, make the most of it. - Patrick Henry

ITB

#22
December 14, 2022, 10:08:57 PM
Many thanks to the Mid-Atlantic/NC crew for making us feel so welcome.  Only took me 13 years to finally make it to the "home range."  :-[

From the food to the comraderie to the COF, everything was top-notch.  Special thanks to Monkey for putting this together, and for the surprise Christmas present.

A great way to spend an early December weekend! 

Except for that 1 miss at 400 on the full-distance red coat.   :wb:
"I will either set my country free, or shed my last drop of blood to make her so." -  Dr. Joseph Warren

" ITB glides through the highways of the Midwest like a Velvet Fog, unfettered by mortal speed limits, leaving only the knowledge of American Heritage and Marksmanship (and a faint whiff of ghost pepper sauce) in his wake." - Oz

CF KD requal - Muenster, TX  11/25/23

OldDominionIron

#23
December 15, 2022, 08:04:44 AM
Did anyone get a picture of the shingle, either pre- or post-engagement?
"(Were) they nourished by your indulgence? They grew by your neglect of them. As soon as you began to care about them, that care was exercised in sending persons to rule over them, in one department and another…Sent to spy out their liberty, to misrepresent their actions and to prey upon them; men whose behaviour on many occasions has caused the blood of these sons of liberty to recoil within them."
      -Isaac Barre

Geek

#24
December 15, 2022, 11:53:44 AM
This is the only picture I took that day.  If you zoom in, you can see the shingle in its unshot form.
Dr. Joseph Warren, in his last letter to his mother, "Where danger is, dear mother, there must your son be... I will set [America] free or die".

Our cause is just . . . our country will be grateful - George Rogers Clark

"This country has been made by the Timothy Murphys, the men in the ranks. Conditions here called for qualities of heart and hand that Tim Murphy had in abundance. Our histories should tell us more about the men in the ranks, for it was to them, more than to the generals that we were indebted for our military victories." -  Franklin Delano Roosevelt, as New York Governor, 1929, at the dedication of the memorial to Murphy

ITB

#25
December 15, 2022, 01:50:30 PM
Quote from: OldDominionIron on December 15, 2022, 08:04:44 AM
Did anyone get a picture of the shingle, either pre- or post-engagement?

Shingle, circled in red.
"I will either set my country free, or shed my last drop of blood to make her so." -  Dr. Joseph Warren

" ITB glides through the highways of the Midwest like a Velvet Fog, unfettered by mortal speed limits, leaving only the knowledge of American Heritage and Marksmanship (and a faint whiff of ghost pepper sauce) in his wake." - Oz

CF KD requal - Muenster, TX  11/25/23

Messer

#26
December 15, 2022, 02:34:33 PM
Quote from: OldDominionIron on December 15, 2022, 08:04:44 AM
Did anyone get a picture of the shingle, either pre- or post-engagement?

I know Wolfhound has one showing the hits - hopefully he will post it.
Today's mighty oak is just yesterday's nut that held its ground.

The Wolfhound

#27
December 15, 2022, 06:42:22 PM
You want shingle?  I got your shingle right here:

Messer

#28
December 15, 2022, 08:40:19 PM Last Edit: December 15, 2022, 08:47:08 PM by Messer
There was a little bit of red on that Blueblood's nose - until I wiped it off!    :snipersmi

Thanks for the pic Wolfhound!

Full disclosure - I missed the cold bore attempt  :wb:  But after everyone was done, I took 3 more shots. one with the same hold as the miss to confirm, and yes, it missed too!  Then I adjusted my hold and hit it twice. Once again, we had sooooo much fun in one day, it was amazing!  ^:)^
Today's mighty oak is just yesterday's nut that held its ground.

BillP_556

#29
December 15, 2022, 09:11:12 PM
Always a good time sharing the range with the "Patron Saint of Rivanna"!
"The Revolution was in the Minds of the People, and this was effected, from 1760 to 1775, in the course of fifteen Years before a drop of blood was drawn at Lexington."
John Adams to Thomas Jefferson, 24 August 1815
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