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Bolt Action Riflery
« on: February 06, 2020, 05:27:45 PM »
No shoot at the Vets Shooting Center this week, range is a wet sloppy mess! With this in mind, I decided to shoot one of my CZ 452 UL bolt action .22 rimfires, with Nikon EFR 3x9 scope. Shooting on my own range.

I've recently decided to go back to shooting bolt actions on the AQT, so I have had a little practice lately. Now this CZ has a scope instead of the aperture sights I used to shoot with.

First AQT, I scored a 241, I felt pretty good about that, but did not like the ugly score on the 200, a 42. I shot it too fast, I felt I was about to lose time! The 100, was a 49, 300 a 50, 400 a 100.

Shot another AQT, this one was a 247! I can't complain about that!

Bolt action riflery on the AQT, is very doable and fun, give it a try!

As usual, we invite all of those who happen to be in our AO and want to shoot the reduced course or KD, with some old hand Riflemen, give us a shout, we'll likely saddle up and meet you at the range!

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Re: Bolt Action Riflery
« Reply #1 on: February 06, 2020, 05:57:43 PM »
Well done!

I find that as long as you maintain your cheek-weld while cycling the bolt, time is not an issue with a bolt-action.

Cadence:
1. breathe out 
2. trigger press
3. breath in and cycle the bolt at the same time
4. repeat!

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Re: Bolt Action Riflery
« Reply #2 on: February 06, 2020, 06:06:47 PM »
I've been trying this as well, nowhere as good as you ofcourse.  I also found that it is critical to find the optimum bolt movement that works for you.  Too much pull to extract you'll end up pulling the rifle away, too much push on chambering the next round you'll push it to the left.  Unfortunately my extractor isn't as good so sometimes it requires a harder pull to make sure that round clears before trying to chamber the next one.  Maybe that is why the Olympic shooters all have the straight pull bolts?

Well done!

I find that as long as you maintain your cheek-weld while cycling the bolt, time is not an issue with a bolt-action.

Cadence:
1. breathe out 
2. trigger press
3. breath in and cycle the bolt at the same time
4. repeat!
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Re: Bolt Action Riflery
« Reply #3 on: February 06, 2020, 07:16:46 PM »
I think bolt actions are very fun to run for Appleseed. Agree with everything below on how to maintain cadence and NPOA.

I got the bug for running bolt actions with iron sights last year. Wrote a couple pieces about it for our Maryland Shooters site:

CZ455 Scout with Tech Sights
https://www.mdshooters.com/showthread.php?t=235733

CZ455 Trainer at 200 yards
https://www.mdshooters.com/showthread.php?t=239009

I also have a CZ527 in 7.62x39 with an aftermarket NEGC aperture sight that is very fun to run. Have done a Red Coat but haven't tried an AQT with it yet...need to get that scheduled...

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Re: Bolt Action Riflery
« Reply #4 on: February 06, 2020, 09:15:37 PM »
I've been trying this as well, nowhere as good as you ofcourse.  I also found that it is critical to find the optimum bolt movement that works for you.  Too much pull to extract you'll end up pulling the rifle away, too much push on chambering the next round you'll push it to the left.  Unfortunately my extractor isn't as good so sometimes it requires a harder pull to make sure that round clears before trying to chamber the next one.  Maybe that is why the Olympic shooters all have the straight pull bolts?

Well done!

I find that as long as you maintain your cheek-weld while cycling the bolt, time is not an issue with a bolt-action.

Cadence:
1. breathe out 
2. trigger press
3. breath in and cycle the bolt at the same time
4. repeat!
Yes, spot on!
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Re: Bolt Action Riflery
« Reply #5 on: February 06, 2020, 09:29:35 PM »
I think bolt actions are very fun to run for Appleseed. Agree with everything below on how to maintain cadence and NPOA.

I got the bug for running bolt actions with iron sights last year. Wrote a couple pieces about it for our Maryland Shooters site:

CZ455 Scout with Tech Sights
https://www.mdshooters.com/showthread.php?t=235733

CZ455 Trainer at 200 yards
https://www.mdshooters.com/showthread.php?t=239009

I also have a CZ527 in 7.62x39 with an aftermarket NEGC aperture sight that is very fun to run. Have done a Red Coat but haven't tried an AQT with it yet...need to get that scheduled...
I first started shooting this same CZ with Brno Sport sights, ten years ago, always shot good AQT's with it. With the fading of my eye sight, I started using a scope, but also went to a semi auto as well, heck, its just easier! Just thought I would go back to the CZ 452 UL with scope this time, I like a challenge!

200 yard KD with a rimfire is a lot of fun, I've actually shot it quite a bit on my own range.

A couple of years ago, I did shoot a KD with a bolt action .223 Howa with detachable box magazine, shot some nice scores with it. The Howa is very slick operating, not a problem running this rifle!
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Re: Bolt Action Riflery
« Reply #6 on: February 06, 2020, 10:33:17 PM »
My highest Appleseed score (235) was with a CZ455 American and a Vortex scope at Ramseur RBC.  My challenge was working the bolt in the sitting position, and I used my support leg to give me a bit of leverage to operate the bolt and cock the rifle while keeping my cheek weld. My other challenge was obtaining sight alignment.  My Tandy scope mounts and the resulting eye relief did not allow for a natural turkey neck (too close) which I met with a recoil pad.  The little magazines for the CZ is another challenge. I put painters tape on the side of the rifle to give me a visible aid in inserting the magazines in rapid-fire stages.
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Re: Bolt Action Riflery
« Reply #7 on: February 06, 2020, 11:00:19 PM »
I did the exact same painters tape on my Savage FVSR the same way to index the mag for AQTs. Worked great.

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Re: Bolt Action Riflery
« Reply #8 on: February 07, 2020, 07:29:02 AM »
I'll try that painters tape thing too, looks like a good idea!
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Re: Bolt Action Riflery
« Reply #9 on: February 07, 2020, 03:20:35 PM »
Shot again today, on the third AQT, shot a 250, huzzahh! Now to do this at an event, but I would be pleased to shoot a bolt action and score in the 240's at an event.
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Re: Bolt Action Riflery
« Reply #10 on: February 07, 2020, 03:55:21 PM »
NICELY DONE!

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Re: Bolt Action Riflery
« Reply #11 on: February 11, 2020, 02:50:32 PM »
Nice job! Of course, I think you could ace it using a slingshot! Great shooting!

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Re: Bolt Action Riflery
« Reply #12 on: February 11, 2020, 03:26:39 PM »
Nice job! Of course, I think you could ace it using a slingshot! Great shooting!
Thank you, I'm looking forward to Hot Springs in April!
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Re: Bolt Action Riflery
« Reply #13 on: February 11, 2020, 03:48:45 PM »
shot my first Rifleman patch with a Savage MKII-FV  22lr bolt action

built up a new hunting rifle I plan to run on a KD AQT next time I get a chance , 308win bolt gun
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Re: Bolt Action Riflery
« Reply #14 on: February 12, 2020, 10:29:19 AM »
...built up a new hunting rifle I plan to run on a KD AQT next time I get a chance , 308win bolt gun

PM me the AAR when you do. I want to hear about it!

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Re: Bolt Action Riflery
« Reply #15 on: February 13, 2020, 06:38:58 PM »
Shot my first Score with a mossberg 144 bolty. Currently working on mastering my “proper” bolt actions. I can get all the shots off with my Mosin Nagant on the rapids but I need a bit of work to turn all the noise into hits :)
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