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Started by U.S.Cavalryman, October 22, 2008, 03:44:14 PM

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U.S.Cavalryman

October 22, 2008, 03:44:14 PM
 Its not new information but its a different presentation. Some of us, me included, may find Fred's guide to becoming a Rifleman a little daunting. Lots of words, tons and tons of information. You may also be or know those people who just learn better with some pictures and fewer words at a time. You may also know those people who are thinking about Appleseed but just need a little motivation. I put this thing together to use at my unit (the Army runs off Powerpoint) I hope you guys enjoy it. I am also up for any suggestions or fixes.  I also posted up the Article referenced to in the presentation
"Only Hits count, you cant miss RAPIDLY enough to catch up"

Nickle

#1
October 22, 2008, 04:36:28 PM Last Edit: October 22, 2008, 07:18:33 PM by Nickle
Great stuff folks.

I know I plan on using some of this, both in my Guard unit, and out on the Appleseed Trail.
They have men amongst them who know very well what they are about, having been employed as Rangers against the Indians and Canadians and this country being much covered with wood, and hilly, is very advantageous for their method of fighting. . . . ".  Lord Percy

Sounds like New Englanders to me.

sgthoskins

#2
October 22, 2008, 05:45:44 PM
Good stuff.
"People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf."

bob 210

#3
October 22, 2008, 06:41:29 PM
These will make a great presentation at Board meetings for setting up Appleseeds at host gun ranges! Thanks!
If ye love wealth better than liberty,the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom,go home from us.We ask not your counsels or arms.Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you.May your chains set lightly upon you and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen. SA

U.S.Cavalryman

#4
October 22, 2008, 08:46:52 PM
 I got some suggestions in PM's and have most of those done. I will add whatever I get, as this is for the group. I will upload the final Copy in a few days to give everyone a chance to drop a note.
"Only Hits count, you cant miss RAPIDLY enough to catch up"

U.S.Cavalryman

#5
October 23, 2008, 05:17:19 PM
 Ok, here is the Latest and greatest. The big guns weighed in on it and here it is
"Only Hits count, you cant miss RAPIDLY enough to catch up"

Sheepdog

#6
February 03, 2009, 01:00:13 AM
Very nice. Thanks. Any updates in the last 60 days?
Sheepdog
RAMSEUR: SEVEN OH EIGHT

EEL

#7
February 03, 2009, 01:32:55 AM
US CAV,

I know Fred would prefer....Fire the RIFLE without moving it... etc.  We try not to use the words "weapon, firearm, gun, etc."  It is simply a Rifle.

Otherwise, very nice.  I would like to use this at my club.

EEL
Do not fire unless fired upon, but if they mean to have war......Let it start here.

Fred

#8
February 03, 2009, 09:06:17 AM

    Guys, "US CAV" is military. The presentation he created (and well-done it was, too!) was prepared for military use, not for Appleseed use - hence the "non-Appleseed" terms.

     It should not be used until it is reformatted to Appleseed.

     Since I understand US CAV is currently deployed, one of us will have to do it.

     Any takers?
"Ready to eat dirt and sweat bore solvent?" - Ask me how to become an RWVA volunteer!

      "...but he that stands it now, deserves the thanks of man and woman alike..."   Paine

     "If you can read this without a silly British accent, thank a Revolutionary War veteran" - Anon.

     "We have it in our power to begin the world over again" - Thomas Paine

     What about it, do-nothings? You heard the man, jump on in...

SkyDaver

#9
February 04, 2009, 05:24:38 PM
I'll attempt this.

I just reviewed the version posted on Oct. 23, and saw a few places where 'weapon' was used.  I'll switch those to 'rifle'.

I saw one spelling mistake, 'foward' instead of 'forward'.  I'll fix that.

The last slide has a very large font, and says
RIFLEM
EN

Instead of RIFLEMEN.

I'll look at each slide carefully for anything else.

I should be able to get this done before Feb. 14.  I'll try to get at least one pass done before Feb. 7.

SkyDaver

#10
February 04, 2009, 05:34:01 PM Last Edit: February 15, 2009, 03:14:08 PM by SkyDaver
I've made one pass through.  A couple of spelling corrections, a few punctuation changes (you'll note I didn't say corrections on the punctuation  ;D)

If anyone sees anything else that should be changed, holler, and I'll get on it.
(modified to fix typo in my own post.  Sheesh.  It was underlined in red ... dunno how I missed it.)

ivyleague28477

#11
March 26, 2009, 12:04:32 AM
I hope I'm not stepping on any toes here or anything.

In my reading of everything trying to prepare for my first Appleseed, I came across this thread here.  I opened the power point presentations so I could read and hopefully learn.  Some of the slides.... well... were hurtful trying to read.  There were so many words on some slides that the words all blended in together and stuff (at least in my head).  I had to strain to read certain ones, and had to read those several times to understand what they were saying.

I hope y'all don't mind, but.... well I tweaked it some.

I didn't change words, just fonts, colors, backgrounds and layouts. (okay maybe a little grammar and punctuation....  ;))

What do you think?

Nickle

#12
March 26, 2009, 09:05:50 AM
Looks good.
They have men amongst them who know very well what they are about, having been employed as Rangers against the Indians and Canadians and this country being much covered with wood, and hilly, is very advantageous for their method of fighting. . . . ".  Lord Percy

Sounds like New Englanders to me.

ivyleague28477

#13
March 26, 2009, 02:44:52 PM
Oh phew.  I was nervous y'all might get upset that a newbie went ahead and did that. 

I'm so excited!  Can't wait til April 18th!!  ;D

Nickle

#14
March 26, 2009, 02:59:21 PM
Newbie or not, you're bailing.

Now, one thing you could go back and fix is the one frame that has me listed as VTANG. It's really VTARNG. Not your doing, but a small thing that should be fixed. I'm Army Guard (ARNG), not Air Guard (ANG). The guy that made the original didn't know the correct acronym, as he's Regular Army (and in Afghanistan right now).
They have men amongst them who know very well what they are about, having been employed as Rangers against the Indians and Canadians and this country being much covered with wood, and hilly, is very advantageous for their method of fighting. . . . ".  Lord Percy

Sounds like New Englanders to me.

SkyDaver

#15
March 26, 2009, 03:40:58 PM Last Edit: March 26, 2009, 03:45:10 PM by SkyDaver
Very nice work.   A few suggestions

For slide 2, I think a left justification is better.  Slide 10 is where the VTANG should be changed to VTARNG
I could fix those, but that's the limit of my Powerpoint skill.

In the NPOA series, I think that the red background makes it tougher to read than the green background of the other sections
In the rapid fire section, the fancy background makes it tougher to read.
I don't know powerpoint well enough to change the background.

Good improvements on the fonts, bullet lists, bold text for primary points, etc!

So, what Ivy?  I am a Penn grad, from a long time ago ....

ivyleague28477

#16
March 27, 2009, 10:44:00 AM
Quote from: Nickle on March 26, 2009, 02:59:21 PM
Newbie or not, you're bailing.
bailing?  bailing on what?  :P 
Quote from: Nickle on March 26, 2009, 02:59:21 PM
Now, one thing you could go back and fix is the one frame that has me listed as VTANG. It's really VTARNG. Not your doing, but a small thing that should be fixed. I'm Army Guard (ARNG), not Air Guard (ANG). The guy that made the original didn't know the correct acronym, as he's Regular Army (and in Afghanistan right now).
I'll fix it today and get it back up.  Anything else?
Quote from: SkyDaver on March 26, 2009, 03:40:58 PM
Very nice work.   A few suggestions

For slide 2, I think a left justification is better.  Slide 10 is where the VTANG should be changed to VTARNG
I could fix those, but that's the limit of my Powerpoint skill.

In the NPOA series, I think that the red background makes it tougher to read than the green background of the other sections
In the rapid fire section, the fancy background makes it tougher to read.
I don't know powerpoint well enough to change the background.

Good improvements on the fonts, bullet lists, bold text for primary points, etc!

So, what Ivy?  I am a Penn grad, from a long time ago ....
For a presentation to signify topic changes each "section" should have a different background color scheme, while the overall presentation should have a color theme.  So, first section is the "riflemen" set (green), second section is the "npoa" set (red), third section is the six steps (different green), fourth section is rapid fire and summary (red - with effects).
I could make solid colors on each section, and I could make them any color you want, really, but a good presentation has transition between sections. (I've been an executive assistant in Fortune 100 companies for years.... this is what I did for a living - making "pretty" presentations (among other things).  :)  Penn grad or not, it was "fine" before - now it's "pretty"  ^-^  ;D  >:D )
I will play with background colors vs. text colors a bit more and see what is visually easier to read. If you have color suggestions, let me know.  I could do greys and blues straight through.  I like the army-green colors, and I like the red emphasis when you get to rapid fire, but that's just my preference - I'll put whatever color y'all want.

Nickle

#17
March 27, 2009, 10:48:11 AM
Bailing, as in helping bail out the good ship "USA" (it's sinking).

In other words, a good thing.

Excellent work!
They have men amongst them who know very well what they are about, having been employed as Rangers against the Indians and Canadians and this country being much covered with wood, and hilly, is very advantageous for their method of fighting. . . . ".  Lord Percy

Sounds like New Englanders to me.

ivyleague28477

#18
March 27, 2009, 10:50:56 AM
Oh, hey.  At IIT Bootcamp, I remember step 3 in the six steps being called "respiratory pause".   I notice most of the other steps say somewhere on the slide "This is known as...  (XYZ)"  Can I put "This is known as Respiratory Pause" on slide #18 for step 3?

And, SkyDaver, I just did slide 2 as left justified......  hmm....   I don't like it so much.  Are you sure you want it that way??!!!  Positive?!  

Nickle

#19
March 27, 2009, 10:55:08 AM
Quote from: ivyleague28477 on March 27, 2009, 10:50:56 AM
Can I put "This is known as Respiratory Pause" on slide #18 for step 3?



Go for it.
They have men amongst them who know very well what they are about, having been employed as Rangers against the Indians and Canadians and this country being much covered with wood, and hilly, is very advantageous for their method of fighting. . . . ".  Lord Percy

Sounds like New Englanders to me.

SkyDaver

#20
March 27, 2009, 11:24:24 AM

Quote from: SkyDaver on March 26, 2009, 03:40:58 PM
Very nice work.   A few suggestions

For slide 2, I think a left justification is better.  Slide 10 is where the VTANG should be changed to VTARNG
I could fix those, but that's the limit of my Powerpoint skill.

In the NPOA series, I think that the red background makes it tougher to read than the green background of the other sections
In the rapid fire section, the fancy background makes it tougher to read.
I don't know powerpoint well enough to change the background.

Good improvements on the fonts, bullet lists, bold text for primary points, etc!

So, what Ivy?  I am a Penn grad, from a long time ago ....
For a presentation to signify topic changes each "section" should have a different background color scheme, while the overall presentation should have a color theme.  So, first section is the "riflemen" set (green), second section is the "npoa" set (red), third section is the six steps (different green), fourth section is rapid fire and summary (red - with effects).
I could make solid colors on each section, and I could make them any color you want, really, but a good presentation has transition between sections. (I've been an executive assistant in Fortune 100 companies for years.... this is what I did for a living - making "pretty" presentations (among other things).  :)  Penn grad or not, it was "fine" before - now it's "pretty"  ^-^  ;D  >:D )
I will play with background colors vs. text colors a bit more and see what is visually easier to read. If you have color suggestions, let me know.  I could do greys and blues straight through.  I like the army-green colors, and I like the red emphasis when you get to rapid fire, but that's just my preference - I'll put whatever color y'all want.
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I liked the Army green background, as well.  It was the red that I found a little tough on my eyes.  The multicolored background washed out the text too much for me.

I understand and like the color transition between sections.

The justification on slide 2 is just my personal preference, if you think it's better centered, go for it.

It is much better looking now thanks to your efforts; we don't need to hash this out to the final shade.  Perfect is the enemy of good

ivyleague28477

#21
March 27, 2009, 11:54:36 AM Last Edit: March 27, 2009, 11:56:38 AM by ivyleague28477
Quote from: SkyDaver on March 27, 2009, 11:24:24 AM
Perfect is the enemy of good
Amen brother.

Okay here's another edit.  Let me know what y'all think.  I changed the NPOA red to a different shade, and the text to a better contrasting shade.  On the Rapid Fire and Summary pages, I changed the text color to a bit different for better contrast as well.  Hopefully that helps.  (And, Nickle, I fixed your title.)

If there's other presentations or materials you want me to tinker with, let me know.  All I do all day is sit at my restaurant and hope I get a few customers, so I'm sitting here not doing much and would be happy to help.

SkyDaver

#22
March 27, 2009, 12:13:51 PM
I like it!   O0

U.S.Cavalryman

#23
March 27, 2009, 03:59:36 PM
Just wanted to say thanks for polishing the powerpoint. I made it for my guys before we deployed and posted it here so ya'll could finish it for Appleseed use.
"Only Hits count, you cant miss RAPIDLY enough to catch up"

Fred

#24
March 27, 2009, 04:18:18 PM
QuoteAll I do all day is sit at my restaurant and hope I get a few customers, so I'm sitting here not doing much and would be happy to help.

   Ivyleague, I've been watching this thread, and thanks for the perfect segway into the following:

   Because now it's time for me to step in and ask you energetic guys, "What are you really doing for the program?"

    And "When are you going to start doing it?"

   Have you checked out the EPT program?

   Wanna bet that will make a bigger impact on the future of AS than a powerpoint program that, as far as I can see, has seen too little real use? (Anyone count the number of times it's actually been used? Yeah, I know the answer: "Not enough!" :) )

    I'm not trying to upset any applecarts here.

    You guys are obviously smart, capable, and I have no doubt you'd like to see AS successful.

     If so, if that really is the fact, PM ff, and tell him you have been shanghai-ed to come over and help out.

     Isn't that why all of us are here? To make this thing work?

     I'd like to see you guys make EPT really rock!

    I have no doubt you can do it.

      @)

      PS: In your spare time, figure out how we can push the ppp and get more use out of it - but only in your spare time... O0
"Ready to eat dirt and sweat bore solvent?" - Ask me how to become an RWVA volunteer!

      "...but he that stands it now, deserves the thanks of man and woman alike..."   Paine

     "If you can read this without a silly British accent, thank a Revolutionary War veteran" - Anon.

     "We have it in our power to begin the world over again" - Thomas Paine

     What about it, do-nothings? You heard the man, jump on in...

Nickle

#25
March 27, 2009, 04:25:43 PM
The real use will be at (among other things) gun shows, where we have a laptop running, talking about the program.
They have men amongst them who know very well what they are about, having been employed as Rangers against the Indians and Canadians and this country being much covered with wood, and hilly, is very advantageous for their method of fighting. . . . ".  Lord Percy

Sounds like New Englanders to me.

ivyleague28477

#26
March 27, 2009, 05:01:07 PM Last Edit: March 27, 2009, 05:06:55 PM by ivyleague28477
Quote from: Nickle on March 27, 2009, 04:25:43 PM
The real use will be at (among other things) gun shows, where we have a laptop running, talking about the program.

Really?  Gee, I was thinking this would be a teaching aid at some point during the shoots.  *shrugs* go figure.  :)




Quote from: Fred on March 27, 2009, 04:18:18 PM
Have you checked out the EPT program?

Not yet.  I eyeballed that thread the other day, and thought since I didn't know what it was or what any of that meant (yet) that perhaps I wasn't qualified enough to PM ff yet.   :-\ 

Quote from: Fred on March 27, 2009, 04:18:18 PM
Wanna bet that will make a bigger impact on the future of AS than a powerpoint program that, as far as I can see, has seen too little real use? (Anyone count the number of times it's actually been used? Yeah, I know the answer: "Not enough!" :) )

I'm sure it probably will......  I'll PM ff if you think "anyone" can do it.  It would have helped me to PM ff several days ago - if on the thread there was a bit more explanation as to what EPT program does and/or entails.  I'm the type of person that, if I don't feel qualified, I won't even ask more details....   :-[

Quote from: Fred on March 27, 2009, 04:18:18 PM
    I'm not trying to upset any applecarts here.

    You guys are obviously smart, capable, and I have no doubt you'd like to see AS successful.

The only thing upsetting the applecart is that you keep calling me a guy :P  ;D   ;) 

Quote from: Fred on March 27, 2009, 04:18:18 PM
     If so, if that really is the fact, PM ff, and tell him you have been shanghai-ed to come over and help out.

     Isn't that why all of us are here? To make this thing work?

     I'd like to see you guys make EPT really rock!

    I have no doubt you can do it.

      @)

Will do, Fred.  Thanks.   :)

Quote from: Fred on March 27, 2009, 04:18:18 PM
      PS: In your spare time, figure out how we can push the ppp and get more use out of it - but only in your spare time... O0

More pictures of hot chicks with guns in it???   ;D   @)


EDIT: PM sent.

LavaTech

#27
March 27, 2009, 05:43:09 PM
QuoteMore pictures of hot chicks with guns in it???   ;D   @)

This is why commercials work so well,... no? ;) O0 **)
All is fair, thus and so.... ;)
In my many years I have come to a conclusion that one useless man is a shame, two is a law firm and three or more is a congress.

- John Adams

ivyleague28477

#28
March 27, 2009, 06:07:18 PM
Quote from: LavaTech on March 27, 2009, 05:43:09 PM
QuoteMore pictures of hot chicks with guns in it???   ;D   @)

This is why commercials work so well,... no? ;) O0 **)
All is fair, thus and so.... ;)

Dude, I'm tellin' ya, it'd work great!  Hell, I'm sure we have at least one dozen attractive women in Appleseed, no?  Calendar of Appleseed ladies???  Shots of chicks in high heels, tight jeans, white tee shirts, and rifles!  That'd get the attention of at least half the sheeple men :P  LOL!!

Hell, I bet if ya held a contest among the ladies, you'd get plenty of picture submissions :P  :)  I bet Fred would be HAPPY to judge.   @)

LavaTech

#29
March 27, 2009, 07:20:08 PM
You don't have to convince me, after all you've just shown me that I know that you know that I know that you know how.......  :D **) **)
In my many years I have come to a conclusion that one useless man is a shame, two is a law firm and three or more is a congress.

- John Adams
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