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Offline Firewall99

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PROMOTION TO ADAPTIVES
« on: July 19, 2011, 08:10:19 PM »
How would you word an ad or flier to signal adaptives that it's OK to come to a shoot?

All I've got now is:

WE ARE ACCOMODATING TO FRIENDS AND FAMILY AND HAVE AN ADAPTIVE PROGRAM THAT ACCOMODATES THOSE WITH PHYSICAL ISSUES.

Any better ideas?  (We need to keep the wording short and sweet.)


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Re: PROMOTION TO ADAPTIVES
« Reply #1 on: July 19, 2011, 08:50:36 PM »
Something short?  How about "Disabled shoot free.*"  And the "*" disclaimer: with ID (i.e. proof of disability).  The word FREE usually gets peoples attention real good.

Also, I would not get so specific as to mention "physical issues" to the exclusion of all other kinds of disabilities.  For instance, those shooters on your line who constantly ask you to repeat the details of the next stage of the AQT may have some kind of learning, processing or memory disability.  I'm not saying they should shoot for free (although, as the blue hat who is checking them in,  I would advocate to the SB on their behalf if they showed me a written copy of a professional diagnosis of such a disability.), I'm just saying that many disabilities are not visible.

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Re: PROMOTION TO ADAPTIVES
« Reply #2 on: July 19, 2011, 09:27:26 PM »
You made great points.

I keep forgetting that there are so many types of disabilities.  Glad I asked.

Thanks!




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Re: PROMOTION TO ADAPTIVES
« Reply #3 on: July 19, 2011, 11:24:41 PM »
You made great points.

I keep forgetting that there are so many types of disabilities.  Glad I asked.

Thanks!

You might consider building on Unbridled Liberty's
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"Disabled shoot free.*"  And the "*" disclaimer: with ID (i.e. proof of disability).
by directing the the readers and target audience Adaptive Appleseed Program for admissions criteria, and mention that "Husbands of currently deployed wives are guests of AS upon showing proof of deployment.  There should be a shorter URL directly.

A Vets organization that I'm on the BOD of in NV- the  Paralyzed Veteran's of America (PVA), gets a lot of recreational opportunities for the OEF/OIF/OND Vets, but virtually nothing for families that are separated via deployment.  We're not the USO, Red Cross &c., but Fred has graciously consented to allowing husbands of deployed females to be guests.

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Re: PROMOTION TO ADAPTIVES
« Reply #4 on: July 20, 2011, 11:10:09 AM »
The wording I would suggest is "Physically Challenged" rather that "Disabled."  My two cents.   :)
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« Reply #5 on: July 20, 2011, 03:10:41 PM »
Ishy's two cents here is likely worth a dollar.

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Re: PROMOTION TO ADAPTIVES
« Reply #6 on: July 20, 2011, 10:01:19 PM »
The wording I would suggest is "Physically Challenged" rather that "Disabled."  My two cents.   :)

I would tend to disagree.  Again, not all impairments ("challenges") are physical in nature.  Personally, I don't care for the term "disabled" either, but in using the term "disabled" above I was trying to stay consistent with the information on the Appleseed website.  I tend to favor the phrase "individuals with disabilities".  Just my $.02  ;)

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Re: PROMOTION TO ADAPTIVES
« Reply #7 on: July 20, 2011, 10:40:18 PM »
We can [dis]cuss Physically Challenged v. Disabled until we are blue in the face, and the original request to include A.AS becomes moot due to publication dead lines.

For what its worth, Disabled is a term used in most state's laws, and federal laws- it has a meaning attached to it that is across the board in use.  Unfortunately, Physically Challenged is used in some states in a way that makes the individual handling a firearm questionable.

Since this request is going out to the general public as a promotional item, perhaps the term Disabled would be better.  Once folks go to the A.AS Admissions Manuals and start [hopefully] reading them, their 'education' begins, starting with verbiage.

My 2/100ths of a dollars worth.

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Re: PROMOTION TO ADAPTIVES
« Reply #8 on: July 23, 2011, 03:51:05 PM »
Taking the suggestions so far, this is the updated copy for hunters (with the adaptive suff near the bottom):

HUNTERS

WANT TO CHOOSE BETWEEN THE HEART OR THE LUNGS?  ACCURATELY?

HOW ARE YOU GONG TO DO THAT IF YOU SHOOT LESS THAN 51 ROUNDS A YEAR FROM A BENCH?

COME TO APPLESEED, AND LEARN NOT ONLY HOW TO HIT WHERE YOU WANT, BUT ALSO HOW TO GET THE FIRST SHOT OFF IN LESS THAN 2 SECONDS.  ACCURATELY.

WE TAKE YOU THROUGH THE ENTIRE WWII MILITARY MARKSMAN COURSE FROM SQUARE ONE TO 400 YARDS IN ONE DAY AND HAMMER IT IN ON THE SECOND DAY.

500 TO 800 ROUNDS LATER, YOU CAN SHOOT MORE ACCURATELY IN ALL FIELD POSITIONS.

WE ARE ACCOMMODATING TO FRIENDS AND FAMILY AND HAVE AN ADAPTIVE PROGRAM THAT ACCOMMODATES THOSE WITH DISABILITIES.

COURSE FEE IS $80 FOR BOTH DAYS ($70 IF YOU PREREGISTER ONLINE AT WWW.RWVA.ORG).  WOMEN ARE $10, AND THOSE UNDER 21 ARE $5.  WITH PROOF OF STATUS: ACTIVE MILITARY, LEO's, REENACTORS IN AUTHENTIC GARB, AND THOSE WITH DISABILITIES SHOOT FREE.

GO TO RWVA.ORG AND REGISTER FOR A SHOOT IN YOUR AREA NOW!

(Please forgive the all caps.  I didn't want to type it all over again.)
« Last Edit: July 23, 2011, 05:59:01 PM by Firewall99 »

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Re: PROMOTION TO ADAPTIVES
« Reply #9 on: July 23, 2011, 05:37:02 PM »
FW,

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...REENACTORS IN AUTHENTIC GARB, AND THOSE WITH DISABILITIES SHOOT FREE.

If you add QUALIFIED in front of DISABILITIES, that should work.  Adding QUALIFIED at least implies everything isn't carte blanche.  If there's room could you add HUSBANDS OF DEPLOYED SPOUSES (just keeping with your format here) to the FREE category?

Thanks for you asking about and help with the project.

Tom
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Re: PROMOTION TO ADAPTIVES
« Reply #10 on: July 23, 2011, 05:57:16 PM »
Are there some disabilities that are not "qualified?"  Or do you mean qualified as in "with proper ID?"

As to the latter, I was trying to cover that with the "proof of status" part without getting too detailed on all the various disclaimer ID requirements.

I like the "spouses of deployed troops" idea.  Is that official yet?  How would they prove that?

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Re: PROMOTION TO ADAPTIVES
« Reply #11 on: July 23, 2011, 06:29:57 PM »
FW,

Yes there are disabilities not allowed.  First and fore most, the individual must be able to handle a firearm safely even with assistance i.e. know what cease fire means, know what a secured firearm involves, &c..  A very close second issue is they must be legally allowed to use and possess firearms under their states laws.  We could split hairs with domicile v. residence, and travelling interstate, but you get the idea and intent.

Proof of status criteria can be found in the Adaptive Appleseed Admissions Manual.  For some disabilities there are prerequisites for admission.  The original team, myself and another departed AS member cussed and discussed every phrase in excruciatingly painful detail to maximize everyone's safety while not disqualifying everyone at the start.

The "spouses of deployed troops" is Official to the best of my knowledge, or at least until last Feb. when I had to step back due to a vehicle accident.  I'm still catching up on a lot of the changes, and have not heard differently from anyone. 
The Proof of status would be an active Military Dependant's ID Card, along with a copy of Deployment Orders or branch of service equal.  Most the SBs, IITs, &c. are current or recently separated service mm embers, so final authentication would be their area of expertise.

I hope this helps a bit.  Mt apologies for referring to the manuals, but there is a broad number of issues and prerequisites discussed.

Tom
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Re: PROMOTION TO ADAPTIVES
« Reply #12 on: July 23, 2011, 08:23:55 PM »
FW,

Yes there are disabilities not allowed.  First and fore most, the individual must be able to handle a firearm safely even with assistance i.e. know what cease fire means, know what a secured firearm involves, &c..  A very close second issue is they must be legally allowed to use and possess firearms under their states laws.  We could split hairs with domicile v. residence, and travelling interstate, but you get the idea and intent.

Proof of status criteria can be found in the Adaptive Appleseed Admissions Manual

Guess it's finally time for me to read the manual!  I've been on sabbatical myself lately.  Time to catch up.

The "spouses of deployed troops" is Official to the best of my knowledge, or at least until last Feb. when I had to step back due to a vehicle accident.  I'm still catching up on a lot of the changes, and have not heard differently from anyone. 
The Proof of status would be an active Military Dependant's ID Card, along with a copy of Deployment Orders or branch of service equal.  Most the SBs, IITs, &c. are current or recently separated service mm embers, so final authentication would be their area of expertise.

I hope this helps a bit.  Mt apologies for referring to the manuals, but there is a broad number of issues and prerequisites discussed.

Tom

There aren't any military SB's around here, as you can surmise from my ignorance on military ID's. 

Now, on to the manual for me....