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Transporting rifles or handgun to a shoot on a motorcycle

Started by tittiger, June 05, 2011, 02:40:32 PM

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tittiger

June 05, 2011, 02:40:32 PM
Transporting rifles or handgun to a shoot on a motorcycle?

I posted this question on Open Carry and did not get what seemed to be a definitive  answer.  It looks like I may be in a position where I may be going to shoots on a motorcycle and want to look into the legality.

There is the federal law where you can transport through any state if they are locked up. But I am more interested in Missouri law.

Thanks!
Joe
"It is the duty of every patriot to protect his country from its government."
~ Thomas Paine

Longshot

#1
June 05, 2011, 03:58:42 PM
I have an old friend who used to ride around St. Louis on a bullet bike with a Class 3 HK MP5 slung on his back. Never got stopped to my knowledge, but got some looks in the McDonald's drive-thru.

A motorcycle is merely another motor vehicle, and standard state laws apply. If it were me, I would bag or case said firearm, both to protect the gun, and to prevent extra unwanted attention.

OH, the above applies only in the sorta-free state of Missouri....     ::)



KR
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Brumley Dog

#2
June 05, 2011, 08:47:56 PM
Joe, I'm assuming this is on the KLR 650? Let me know your setup - I'm going to own one by the fall and I'm interested in riding it to shoots. Have you got a scabbard rigged up?

-Jesse

tittiger

#3
June 05, 2011, 09:02:17 PM
You guessed it.
A scabbard is a great idea Jessy though maybe not discrete.  On my first KLR I had  aluminum panniers that made a wide platform and you could easily strap a cased rifle across the bike there.

I will probably have to get tools to do the dohickey and also valve tools for this bike as I sold all of that stuff. If you want we can get together and do both on both our bikes some day this fall.

These are my 2 favorite KLR forums ---
There are over 7,000 KLR riders to this forum.

http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/DSN_KLR650/messages

and this one is very good also

http://www.klr650.net/






"It is the duty of every patriot to protect his country from its government."
~ Thomas Paine

Celt

#4
June 07, 2011, 11:26:25 PM
If you took the action/ barrel out of the stock it would br shorter and maybe fit in a back pack, just a thought.
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tittiger

#5
June 07, 2011, 11:29:32 PM
Thanks much Ian not a bad idea at all especially if THSTF. (Is that allowed?)

I am as of today the proud owner of a 2006 -- 650 KLR.  I can now afford to make the Dadeville shoot it looks like if I can get plates by Friday.
"It is the duty of every patriot to protect his country from its government."
~ Thomas Paine

DryFire

#6
June 08, 2011, 10:40:43 AM
Congrats on the bike  O0 I picked up an 07 KLR650, my first motorcycle, a couple of months back. So far I am loving every moment of it, even the wrenching  #) Changed the doohickey when I first got it and last week did the valves. So is the KLR the bike of a rifleman?

DryFire
"I believe there is great need for such a book, a book which will help to make us again what we were a century ago before commercialism and life in cities robbed our young men of most of their primitive virtues -- a Nation of Rifleman.
Maj. Townsend Whelen
The American Rifle

azmule

#7
June 08, 2011, 02:15:55 PM
I'm not a lawyer, but I don't see anything here:
http://www.moga.mo.gov/statutes/chapters/chap571.htm

that's not to say LE won't mess with you or even misapply an unrelated law if you carry a rifle in a way they don't like.  (Like how Wisconsin charges openly-carrying folks with "disturbing the peace" because open carry is legal there.)

I've been carrying rifles on motorcycles most of my life - for the most part, locked in a case with all ammo in a seperate container has always been the legally safe route for me, application of the law should be the same whether the case is in the trunk of a car or tied to the back of a bike.
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crak

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June 08, 2011, 02:52:47 PM Last Edit: June 08, 2011, 03:18:58 PM by crak



Check your drama at the door.

CharlieHotel

#9
June 08, 2011, 04:26:40 PM
I swear, that's not me!

CH
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tittiger

#10
June 08, 2011, 04:30:18 PM
I'm not complaining mind you --  but does everyone read the Missouri boards?
I guess we should be flattered.
"It is the duty of every patriot to protect his country from its government."
~ Thomas Paine

JustJeff

#11
June 08, 2011, 06:23:24 PM
Quote from: tittiger on June 08, 2011, 04:30:18 PM
I'm not complaining mind you --  but does everyone read the Missouri boards?
I guess we should be flattered.

Most of us click on the "Show unread posts since last visit." link when we log in.  When there's a post that interests us, regardless of where it's at, we read it.  Some of us even take the time to post a comment if we can actually add to the discussion. 
Besides, Missouri is the home of Beth... one of my favorite people.

Your version of "ineffective" does not necessarily reflect the truth....
Having been "ineffectively" taught to the Rifleman Standard and having been "ineffectively" taught to teach others to the Rifleman Standard, I believe I prefer the "ineffective" over the other choice.

Cooper

#12
June 08, 2011, 06:30:05 PM
Quote from: JustJeff on June 08, 2011, 06:23:24 PM
Besides, Missouri is the home of Beth... one of my favorite people.

BTW, Jeff, Beth says "Hi!"
Janelle
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JustJeff

#13
June 08, 2011, 06:42:25 PM
Quote from: Cooper on June 08, 2011, 06:30:05 PM
Quote from: JustJeff on June 08, 2011, 06:23:24 PM
Besides, Missouri is the home of Beth... one of my favorite people.

BTW, Jeff, Beth says "Hi!"
Janelle
Thanks Coop.  I told her to be careful if she test-drove your new seedmobile.  It was nice to hear you on her show Monday.
Your version of "ineffective" does not necessarily reflect the truth....
Having been "ineffectively" taught to the Rifleman Standard and having been "ineffectively" taught to teach others to the Rifleman Standard, I believe I prefer the "ineffective" over the other choice.

sparks1

#14
June 08, 2011, 08:15:55 PM
Naw...we read the mo. board 'cos of "cookie lady"....trying to see where the treats will show up next! :)
AND...motorcycles and guns, how more American can a post get? Nice motorcycle BTW. I gave up riding when the cages got too dangerous to be around.

Can't help with legal info, just think inconspicous is the way to go. MHO
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JustJeff

#15
June 08, 2011, 09:00:07 PM
Quote from: sparks1 on June 08, 2011, 08:15:55 PM
AND...motorcycles and guns, how more American can a post get? 

not quite all there...
Motorcycles, guns, baseball, bbq hotdogs, and hot apple pie with icecream, and fireworks over the lake/river on the 4th of July.
Your version of "ineffective" does not necessarily reflect the truth....
Having been "ineffectively" taught to the Rifleman Standard and having been "ineffectively" taught to teach others to the Rifleman Standard, I believe I prefer the "ineffective" over the other choice.

nemohunter

#16
June 08, 2011, 09:13:13 PM
We can STILL buy fireworks here too. REAL one's not snakes and sparklers LOL.
PLEASE DON'T STROKE THE EGO.

sparks1

#17
June 08, 2011, 10:06:51 PM
Quote from: JustJeff on June 08, 2011, 09:00:07 PM
Quote from: sparks1 on June 08, 2011, 08:15:55 PM
AND...motorcycles and guns, how more American can a post get? 

not quite all there...
Motorcycles, guns, baseball, bbq hotdogs, and hot apple pie with icecream, and fireworks over the lake/river on the 4th of July.

You mean , of course, Independence Day. Not the other.
Sorry , no offense meant with this post.
Integrity is easier to keep, than to regain.

The Truth is that teamwork is at the heart of great accomplishment. 
(John Maxwell)

Brumley Dog

#18
June 08, 2011, 11:06:06 PM
You forgot four-wheel drive vehicles, big-ass knives, gas-powered welders, tractors, bulldozers, jackhammers nail guns and chainsaws.

Awesome bike, Joe. Hopefully my vegetables sell and I'll be able to join you soon. I will compensate you for use of your tools and knowledge.

I'm not out to cause a trouble, but part of me really wants to haul ass down Interstate 44 on a motorcycle with an M14 slung across my back.  :~

DryFire

#19
November 28, 2011, 09:51:37 PM
Made a wet and cold ride today to the brother-in-laws shop to have some aluminum welded. Here is my solution to mounting a rifle on the KLR. Pretty simple really, used the left passenger peg mount for a lower point, and then used the two rear most mounting screws in the rear rack to hold the top end. If you see the pics you can see what I ended up. I simply used square tubing and then a section of L. The case is a Plano airglide, this thing will hold almost any rifle you can come up with scope or not, evil black rifle or even my 91/30.

Thanks,
DryFire
"I believe there is great need for such a book, a book which will help to make us again what we were a century ago before commercialism and life in cities robbed our young men of most of their primitive virtues -- a Nation of Rifleman.
Maj. Townsend Whelen
The American Rifle

tittiger

#20
November 28, 2011, 09:58:11 PM
Very nice thanks for the pictures.
Reminds me of my old KRL especially the
tool box.
"It is the duty of every patriot to protect his country from its government."
~ Thomas Paine

Wade

#21
November 28, 2011, 10:20:10 PM
Nice ,,
I used to go huntting on my triumph  and used a scabboard down the front forks  kinda like they used to use on the old  army harley 45's worked well and funny thing no one cut my off or tried to push me out of my lane etc,,, not sure how well that would work now days depends on your AO .

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