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NOT YOUR'S TO GIVE

Started by Castle Mountain, January 25, 2011, 03:02:51 PM

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Castle Mountain

January 25, 2011, 03:02:51 PM


Great story about Horatio Bunce and Davy Crocket.  If you are not familiar with it it is indeed well worth reading. 

http://www.juntosociety.com/patriotism/inytg.html

Hope you all enjoy it as much as I. It's a keeper.   O0

CM
Aut viam inveniam aut faciam- will find a way or I will make one".
"The rifle itself has no moral stature, since it has no will of its own. Naturally, it may be used by evil men for evil purposes, but there are more good men than evil, and while the latter cannot be persuaded to the path of righteousness by propaganda, they can certainly be corrected by good men with rifles."  one who has not qualified himself with the M-16 may not be considered to be a responsible citizen."

—Jeff Cooper, The Art of the Rifle

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-- Adolf Hitler (1889-1945) German Nazi Dictator
 

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Two Wolves

#1
January 25, 2011, 03:56:14 PM
 8)
A moral compass provides a basis for making decisions; an action is good or bad, right or wrong when viewed in the light of the individual's moral bearing. If no moral compass exists for the individual, then decisions and actions are made on the basis of purely subjective thoughts. This leads to "If it makes me happy, or makes me feel good, or if it's something I simply want to do, then it is right and good."

vmt193

#2
January 25, 2011, 04:34:05 PM
Great find!

Thank you. O0

vmt

Shooter30-06

#3
January 25, 2011, 05:39:29 PM
Many years of attending various municipal meetings convinced me that the easiest thing to do in this world is spend someone else's money.  This ought to be required reading for every elected official at all levels of government.  Thanks CM for the link!
"We cannot insure success but we can deserve it."-John Adams
"Remember, all men would be tyrants if they could."-Daniel Defoe

Scarecrow

#4
January 25, 2011, 06:08:34 PM
 O0

Old Dog

#5
January 25, 2011, 07:12:01 PM
If this is the story I think it is (read it a couple of years ago while reading up on Crockett) the politicians of today could learn a thing or two by talking to "the common people" the represent.

Imagine ol' Davy's surprise when an old farmer out working in the fields teaches him a few things about what is right and wrong.
"The rifle itself has no moral stature, since it has no will of its own. Naturally, it may be used by evil men for evil purposes, but there are more good men than evil, and while the latter cannot be persuaded to the path of righteousness by propaganda, they can certainly be corrected by good men with rifles."

—Jeff Cooper, The Art of the Rifle

Garand69

#6
January 25, 2011, 07:22:28 PM
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Garand69

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sparks1

#7
January 25, 2011, 07:33:39 PM
 Great stuff...I just cut and pasted the link  in an email to my representative Michele Bachmann.  O0
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Gravy

#8
February 08, 2011, 09:59:51 AM
What a great story!  Tanks CM!  O0

When was the last time anyone saw a congresscritter walking the streets, talking to the people they are supposed to represent?  How many municipalities actually have a budget surplus?  It seems to me that politicians believe they are elected to spend.

"Socialism works until you run out of other people's money." - Margaret Thatcher

henschman

#9
February 08, 2011, 06:01:53 PM
When was the last time you heard of ANYBODY (but especially a congressman) being criticized, and actually analyzing their own beliefs and realizing that they were not correct, and then not only changing their beliefs, but acknowledging the change publicly?  Not in modern America, that's for sure.  Not with our culture that values emotion over logic and reason.  Anybody from our age, when confronted with a sound and logical reason why they are wrong, would have become enraged and thrown a fit and some curses at the one correcting them, and would then continue to do what they were doing with righteous indignation, and would construct a nice mental wall that would prevent them from ever again questioning the correctness of the action in question, as it causes way too much mental strain to actually realize you are wrong.  They would also come up with the best way of lampooning the beliefs of the person correcting them, which would demogogically appeal to all the other idiots in society... it would probably go something like, "they want to kick people out on the streets and make them starve."  And of course the classic "they must hate kids and old folks." 

Of course in modern America, nobody like Horatio Bunce would be valued by his neighbors for his wisdom and his integrity, like he was back then... they would all listen to the demagogues with perfectly manicured hair and a winning smile who tell them that they are entitled to force productive peole like Mr. Bunce to provide a living for them, and they would probably buy into the line that people like him are mean and selfish for not supporting the enslavement of their fellow man.

Is there something applicable to Appleseed in all this?  Yes, I would say there is.   
"Of liberty I would say that, in the whole plenitude of its extent, it is unobstructed action according to our will. But rightful liberty is unobstructed action according to our will within limits drawn around us by the equal rights of others. I do not add 'within the limits of the law,' because law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual."
-- Thomas Jefferson to Isaac H. Tiffany, 1819

Scarecrow

#10
February 08, 2011, 06:10:13 PM
Huzzah Henschman!
I see we think alike even more than I thought.
O0

Boba Fett

#11
February 08, 2011, 06:31:49 PM
Watched an interview with Rand Paul today in which he said almost the same thing: "We have no business borrowing money from China to give away to other countries (referencing Egypt and Israel)." It's irresponsible, unconstitutional, and unnecessary.

Thanks CM!  O0

Boba

TheEditor

#12
February 09, 2011, 03:47:07 PM
Great story.   Thanks for finding it and sharing it, CM.

TheEditor
John N.
Author of "50 Things You Didn't Learn in School - But Should Have"
www.heuristicbooks.com

coloradomike

#13
February 11, 2011, 12:55:50 AM
Awesome story!! Thanks for sharing!
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