News:

Want Appleseed to grow and fill our firing lines?  We need help with advertising, social media, graphics design, and administrative tasks.  An hour of time spent at this level can have a huge impact.  You can make a difference!  Send a Personal Message to Cleveland.

Main Menu

AAR: LaCrosse, WI 4-5 Dec 2010 (WinterSeed!)

Started by Mogget, December 04, 2010, 07:09:12 AM

Previous topic - Next topic
Print
Go Down Pages1 2
User actions

Mogget

December 04, 2010, 07:09:12 AM Last Edit: December 04, 2010, 07:11:29 AM by Mogget
Just gettin' things started....

The National Weather Service has officially endorsed this WinterSeed with a Winter Weather Warning.  We have just over six inches of snow so far, and at least another inch or two on the way.   Drive safely, take your time getting to the range.  We'll still be there!

Mogs

SPQR

#1
December 04, 2010, 01:57:10 PM
That is the kind of thing that will make you long for a mild, 30 degree southern Indiana day.
"It is amazing to watch the intricate dance of the Indiana instructors playing off each other's strengths. No ego involved. Just doing what needs to be done by the person best suited to do it to give the shooters what they need." - Miki

"Indiana rules!" - Nero

"We all need Bedford." - brianheeter

professor gun

#2
December 04, 2010, 09:20:53 PM
I think we ended up with a total of 7" at the club.  Temps were about 25 and dropping through the afternoon.  Interesting contrast to the June Appleseed we had here at La Crosse when temps were in the 90's and it was sunny.  After getting to clubhouse this morning at 7 a.m. through the snow and getting the fire started, we sat there wondering if anyone would show up.  Everyone made it OK.
Honoring my ancestor, Seth Hall, of the Massachusetts Militia for his sacrifices during our American Revolution that helped to provide freedom for all Americans.

Blue Five

#3
December 04, 2010, 09:54:49 PM
It was a tough shoot thus far but still fun...I'm looking forward to tomorrow.

Who the heck would want to shoot in freezing temperatures with seven inches of snow on the ground?  That's crazy.  ;D  :---

B5
"Don't fire unless fired upon, but if they mean to have a war, let it begin here!" ~Captain John Parker, April 19, 1775.

Molōn labe! :--- 

Mogget

#4
December 04, 2010, 10:15:57 PM
Who indeed?    ;D

All in all, it was a great day.  Thanks to the LaCrosse Rifle Club for letting us use their excellent range and clubhouse -- perfect for a WinterSeed.  Special thanks to Professor Gun and Blue Five for getting the fire going and then helping me setup the target line and shovel the firing line until Cooper arrived!  Couldn't have done it without you!

We shot two AQTs and finished all Three Strikes before the light gave out at around 4:15 PM or so.  Lots of good shooting today; just a matter of bringing it all together.  There was, however, a rather marked silence on the KD line...

Pictures follow:

















And finally, Minnesota's most unusual Orange Hat:  Jackie the Rifledog.  Yes, she is wearing her hearing protection!  You'll have to ask Cooper how she made that happen...





Mogs

fepowered

#5
December 04, 2010, 10:20:47 PM
How many people will be doing Ful Distance tomorrow?
"Today, we need a nation of Riflemen, citizens who are not only prepared to take arms, but citizens who regard the preservation of freedom as the basic purpose of their daily life and who are
willing to consciously work and sacrifice for that freedom."

Mogget

#6
December 04, 2010, 10:36:01 PM
Don't know for sure.  But the KD line is set up and ready to go.  I think Joe Z shot a 210 today.  And it's a really, really, nice facility.  So dress warmly because we're looking at 0 degrees tomorrow AM.  But it's really not an opportunity to be missed. 

Nice warm clubhouse w/ a fire, coffee, cocoa, and cider...  Seven or eight inches of fresh snow.  It's beautiful out there right now!

Mogs

Blue Five

#7
December 04, 2010, 10:46:45 PM
I'm hoping I'll be able to shoot long distance if I get the ok from Mogget and JoeZ...but first gotta work on that 10/22 work on AQT's...  :)
"Don't fire unless fired upon, but if they mean to have a war, let it begin here!" ~Captain John Parker, April 19, 1775.

Molōn labe! :--- 

Cooper

#8
December 04, 2010, 10:50:30 PM
Quote from: fepowered on December 04, 2010, 10:20:47 PM
How many people will be doing Ful Distance tomorrow?

Six other Minnesotans have made plans to come for KD.
"This Appleseed thing doesn't look like it would be for everyone, but it really is." Zac, age 7  كافر
"He who dares not offend cannot be honest." ~ Thomas Paine    "Cooper, you're an a**hole!" - recent Shoot Boss's compliment
"I don't know where "brave" leaves off and "foolish" picks up, but you've certainly got your share of courage." - FuzzyMath
"For the Rifle!, the Rifle!, in our hands will prove no trifle!" ~from the lyrics of "The Bennington Riflemen"
Understand the urgency of our mission; no amount of bailing can raise a sunken ship.
I don't want to be forced back into the darkness. 

"Shut up and color." - slim

fepowered

#9
December 05, 2010, 02:09:09 AM Last Edit: December 05, 2010, 09:45:22 AM by fepowered
edit------I just realized I had posted in the AAR and not the event thread------edit
"Today, we need a nation of Riflemen, citizens who are not only prepared to take arms, but citizens who regard the preservation of freedom as the basic purpose of their daily life and who are
willing to consciously work and sacrifice for that freedom."

professor gun

#10
December 05, 2010, 09:07:15 PM
It was good to see so many out to shoot the longer distances of the KD. I learn something at every Appleseed I attend.
Honoring my ancestor, Seth Hall, of the Massachusetts Militia for his sacrifices during our American Revolution that helped to provide freedom for all Americans.

FreedomV

#11
December 05, 2010, 09:32:11 PM
Thank you to all instructors for my introduction to Known Full Distance Winter-seed.
The balmy 20-25 degrees presented many unique challenges that I appreciate knowing about.
I have always had a personal desire to enjoy a wide range of activities no matter what the weather does.
Thank you Appleseed for making that possible!!

FV
Illegitimi non carborundum

Blue Five

#12
December 05, 2010, 09:47:50 PM
This was a great Appleseed; I am very glad I was able to attend.  Many thanks to Mogget, JoeZ, Dragonfly, Colin, and all the other instructors who ran this event.  This was my second Appleseed and first "Winterseed", and I still learned plenty. 

Despite the cold weather and snow, I had a lot of fun and thoroughly enjoyed it.  Now I just need to fix my AR-10 and get a lighter scope for it and try KD in March...  O0


B5
"Don't fire unless fired upon, but if they mean to have a war, let it begin here!" ~Captain John Parker, April 19, 1775.

Molōn labe! :--- 

Cooper

#13
December 05, 2010, 10:08:54 PM
Any attempt at snow angels would have resulted in missing Appleseeders... the day started at a crisp 14 degrees.
"This Appleseed thing doesn't look like it would be for everyone, but it really is." Zac, age 7  كافر
"He who dares not offend cannot be honest." ~ Thomas Paine    "Cooper, you're an a**hole!" - recent Shoot Boss's compliment
"I don't know where "brave" leaves off and "foolish" picks up, but you've certainly got your share of courage." - FuzzyMath
"For the Rifle!, the Rifle!, in our hands will prove no trifle!" ~from the lyrics of "The Bennington Riflemen"
Understand the urgency of our mission; no amount of bailing can raise a sunken ship.
I don't want to be forced back into the darkness. 

"Shut up and color." - slim

Cooper

#14
December 05, 2010, 10:15:18 PM
some Icescicle KD
"This Appleseed thing doesn't look like it would be for everyone, but it really is." Zac, age 7  كافر
"He who dares not offend cannot be honest." ~ Thomas Paine    "Cooper, you're an a**hole!" - recent Shoot Boss's compliment
"I don't know where "brave" leaves off and "foolish" picks up, but you've certainly got your share of courage." - FuzzyMath
"For the Rifle!, the Rifle!, in our hands will prove no trifle!" ~from the lyrics of "The Bennington Riflemen"
Understand the urgency of our mission; no amount of bailing can raise a sunken ship.
I don't want to be forced back into the darkness. 

"Shut up and color." - slim

Cooper

#15
December 05, 2010, 10:22:31 PM
More than a few hit Payice...  Our Winterseed KD Riflemen:

AdamT
Whisker
George63

And repeat Rifleman with a twist of Winter, Michael
"This Appleseed thing doesn't look like it would be for everyone, but it really is." Zac, age 7  كافر
"He who dares not offend cannot be honest." ~ Thomas Paine    "Cooper, you're an a**hole!" - recent Shoot Boss's compliment
"I don't know where "brave" leaves off and "foolish" picks up, but you've certainly got your share of courage." - FuzzyMath
"For the Rifle!, the Rifle!, in our hands will prove no trifle!" ~from the lyrics of "The Bennington Riflemen"
Understand the urgency of our mission; no amount of bailing can raise a sunken ship.
I don't want to be forced back into the darkness. 

"Shut up and color." - slim

Earl

#16
December 05, 2010, 10:39:46 PM
Those Winterseed Rifleman patches look cool, or is that COLD! ::) We haven't seen them in Washington yet, but California keeps sending their warm air our way (NOT!). ;)
... to catch the fire in another American for sharing the skills and our heritage to our posterity. Maybe my perfect shots will be made by those I met along the trials and trails of Appleseed. I know that America is a nation of Riflemen.

Cooper

#17
December 05, 2010, 10:42:20 PM
Other KD'ers successfully avoiding the camera included JoeZ, Sparks1, FreedomV and probably several others that I missed while calling the 25m range...

It was so cold that Jackie the Rifledog abdicated her throne and wool blanket on the line and insisted in staying in the heated clubhouse after reviewing the shooters with the "alternating the paw in the air and off the snow" march.

And I missed the other Mike being hammered into shape on the anvil of the AQT:
"This Appleseed thing doesn't look like it would be for everyone, but it really is." Zac, age 7  كافر
"He who dares not offend cannot be honest." ~ Thomas Paine    "Cooper, you're an a**hole!" - recent Shoot Boss's compliment
"I don't know where "brave" leaves off and "foolish" picks up, but you've certainly got your share of courage." - FuzzyMath
"For the Rifle!, the Rifle!, in our hands will prove no trifle!" ~from the lyrics of "The Bennington Riflemen"
Understand the urgency of our mission; no amount of bailing can raise a sunken ship.
I don't want to be forced back into the darkness. 

"Shut up and color." - slim

Blue Five

#18
December 05, 2010, 10:53:22 PM
Nice pictures, Cooper!  Multitasking a bit on the line I see  ;)
"Don't fire unless fired upon, but if they mean to have a war, let it begin here!" ~Captain John Parker, April 19, 1775.

Molōn labe! :--- 

MeanStreaker

#19
December 05, 2010, 11:25:04 PM
Quote from: Cooper on December 05, 2010, 10:08:54 PM
Any attempt at snow angels would have resulted in missing Appleseeders...

Ha!  :)
Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom must, like men, undergo the fatigue of supporting it.
--Thomas Paine

Used to ride a Kawasaki Mean Streak motorcycle.  I'm not an angry, naked runner.  :)

Cooper

#20
December 05, 2010, 11:48:52 PM
Sorry, MeanStreaker:

I'm a native Michi-gander and couldn't resist trying to get your "goose"   ;D
As a current Minnesota resident, I also harassed the Wisconsonites about the endless layers of clothing and Carhart's they were wearing as I suffered silently in my shooting jacket and Appleseed T-shirt.

Janelle



"This Appleseed thing doesn't look like it would be for everyone, but it really is." Zac, age 7  كافر
"He who dares not offend cannot be honest." ~ Thomas Paine    "Cooper, you're an a**hole!" - recent Shoot Boss's compliment
"I don't know where "brave" leaves off and "foolish" picks up, but you've certainly got your share of courage." - FuzzyMath
"For the Rifle!, the Rifle!, in our hands will prove no trifle!" ~from the lyrics of "The Bennington Riflemen"
Understand the urgency of our mission; no amount of bailing can raise a sunken ship.
I don't want to be forced back into the darkness. 

"Shut up and color." - slim

Johnnyappleseed

#21
December 06, 2010, 12:50:47 PM
Wow ---- I am impressed with the mindset of every RH IIT and Future Rifleman at this  Ice seed  O0
Well done Wisconsin ...
JA
Nothing in the world can take the place of Persistence. Talent will not; nothing is more common than unsuccessful men with talent. Genius will not; unrewarded genius is almost a proverb. Education will not; the world is full of educated derelicts. Persistence and determination alone are omnipotent. The slogan 'Press On' has solved and always will solve the problems of the human race.
Calvin Coolidge

JoeZ

#22
December 06, 2010, 01:14:36 PM
Hello all,
The weather was great. The shooting jacket over my 2 wool layers was plenty. No bulky winter jacket so I feel like I cheated getting a Winterseed patch.

What a great club. Thank you so much professor gun for helping us out.

Mogs, well done as usual.

To all the crew that came out, good to meet you or to meet you again.
"What is she, that cometh forth as the morning rising, fair as the Moon, elect as the sun, terrible as the army of a camp set in array?" Canticle of Canticles 6:9

FivePoint56

#23
December 06, 2010, 01:33:44 PM
One thing is for sure.  I should of practiced shooting from the sitting position in Carharts before coming for KD.  I have a hard enough time getting into that position with out extra layers of stiff clothing. 


It was fun shooting the long ball.  I have yet to attend an Appleseed and not learn something important.  It is a great range and well worth the drive.  My hats off to the LaCrosse Rifle Club and the instructors,  granted my hat is not off for long because well it is cold outside  :)  O0

From this I learned that I need to make my own range card for my rifle and loads, practice shooting from the other sitting positions and to shop around for a really good anti fog. 

Great winterseed WI.   O0

professor gun

#24
December 06, 2010, 02:16:04 PM
Thanks for all the compliments for the La Crosse Rifle Club.  We are always happy to host a group like this who promotes firearms safety and marksmanship; the membership has been very supportive of us having Appleseeds at our range.  A year ago the primary concern of our members when I proposed the first Appleseed was safe conduct at the range; some of our members came out to the first Appleseed in June just to observe and make sure this was a safe group.  Watching the Appleseed instructors run the range in the manner that they do alleviated all concerns and won over those few members who might have been resistant.

The Appleseed instructors who conducted our two appleseeds so far have been extremely safety conscious and uncompromising on expectations of safe gun handling (as they should be) by participants.  They are also very knowledgeable and are able to effectively share with participants this knowledge.

I have learned a lot of good information at the two appleseeds I have attended.  They have also inspired me and my family to do effective practice with our rifles that help improve our skills.
Honoring my ancestor, Seth Hall, of the Massachusetts Militia for his sacrifices during our American Revolution that helped to provide freedom for all Americans.

M.R.C.

#25
December 06, 2010, 06:35:26 PM
What a GREAT weekend!

I owe a big thanks to Mogget, JoeZ, and Dragonfly for giving me the chance to shoot KD. Those 25-yard AQT skills really DO translate to the KD AQT! It was the first time in my life shooting a rifle over 200 yards and definitely the most fun I've had shooting a rifle ever!

And a big thanks to JoeZ for not only loaning me a front sight tool, but also loaning me a whole FRONT SIGHT for my AR-15 to use when mine was to tall to zero properly! :bow:  O0

I didn't get to take many pictures since I was shooting so much, but I did get one of the beautiful KD range:

George63

#26
December 06, 2010, 07:07:47 PM
I did not feel the temp of 14 (leaving it was 11 F ) or the 7 inch "dusting" of snow should qualify for a winterseed - even if this would have been a full blown BLIZZARDSEED in a southern location (like Ohio) but Fred said the SB makes the call and I reluctantly accepted the icicle patch. This is an outstanding range for KD with a relay taking as little as 40 min to shoot and 20 min to score and a very nice building, many thanks to the range members - for any KD that I can make it to at LaCrosse I will offer our host members a rifle and ammo for a round of AQT + I do hope to have a chance to make it so

TruTenacity

#27
December 06, 2010, 07:25:11 PM
Nice work crew and students!

That does look like you all had a grand time!

Not sure what we're in for this weekend.  Frozen mix is on the horizon though presently we have 18 inches of compacted snow on the ground.

Quote from: Earl on December 05, 2010, 10:39:46 PM
Those Winterseed Rifleman patches look cool, or is that COLD! ::) We haven't seen them in Washington yet, but California keeps sending their warm air our way (NOT!). ;)

Earl,

I feel your pain.  WA and ID have had five Winterseeds, but no patches to give out.  WR got a promise from Fred that they will be on the way tomorrow.  She gave him tdow's mailing info and yours along with ours.

Hopefully they get here by Friday morning.

TT
"We are fighting for our country, for posterity perhaps.  On the success of this campaign the happiness or misery of millions may depend."  Henry Knox

"Let us not be weary in well doing: for in due season we shall reap if we faint not."  Galatians 6:9

Mogget

#28
December 06, 2010, 08:12:09 PM


M.R.C.!  Yeah, that jump to KD is a great experience.   For all that a Rifleman has confidence that the skills will translate, actually experiencing how smoothly it comes is really amazing.

Mike T. and Blue Five were both ready for KD but had some rifle issues.  Mike T. eventually got to ring some steel at 300 yards and we've saved a spot on the KD line for Blue Five in March. 

And George63 brings new insight to the expression "shoot boss discretion," I think.  It now includes that idea that if you shoot well enough the shoot boss can make you take a patch home!    ;D

Finally, if anyone hears from Kyle please direct him here.  I gave him my personal email so I could link him up with some targets but haven't heard from him yet.

Mogs

AFTERMATH

#29
December 06, 2010, 08:36:35 PM
I'm still kicking myself in the teeth for not being able to make it down there. :kick-in-the-teeth-smilie:
:wb: :wb: :wb: :wb:

But I'd have only spoiled the fun!

Congrats to all!

Aftermath
"We intend to produce men who are able to light a fire for Liberty in men's minds, and make them the finest rifle marksmanship Instructors on the planet." - Son of Martha

"Tyrants rise and fall, but tyranny lasts forever." -Me

[What kind of megalomaniac quotes himself?]
Print
Go Up Pages1 2
User actions