Author Topic: Why Action Field Shooting?  (Read 7014 times)

Offline wildman

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Why Action Field Shooting?
« on: November 18, 2007, 11:02:08 AM »
This is an Appleseed web site. What goes on here is all about the Appleseed program. Why then do we have this special area called, "Home Range Events," promoting pop-up or field action shooting?

I'll try to explain it to you as best I can. First the Appleseed program is designed to introduce basic skills to the not ready for prime time shooter who aspires to be a rifleman. These basic skills are well know to many of you. The six steps to firing the shot, correct positions, NPOA, windage calulations to name a few.  The Appleseed is a great way for the would be shooter to get started on the right foot. The folks who had the vision and the energy to put the Appleseed together hoped that Appleseed would be the first step in the development of a competent field shooter. Appleseed is the begining not the end of this process.

In order to become the fully developed rifleman one must learn to shoot at actual range under real field conditions. Real world shooting requires the shooter to be able to engage targets with wind, varying light conditions, and at different ranges. The rifleman should be able to set a battlesight zero and hit his target anywhere from 100 yds to 400 yds without a sight change. 

The action shoots have value in that they allow the rifleman to continue their development so they can reach higher state of ability. I wish it were possible have ranges like the Ramseur range in every state perhaps maybe one day. Until that blessed day Ramseur is it. It is my hope that all that can read this post will find a way to come to the "mountain" as often as possible. In the past we've have folks drive from Missouri, New York and even fly in from California. 

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Re: Why Action Field Shooting?
« Reply #1 on: November 18, 2007, 11:09:06 AM »
Let me be the first to put a big "you better believe it!" to Wildman's post.  I'm more fortunate that a lot of the folks reading this thread.  I only live about 4 hours drive from Ramseur.  I've been down there several times over the last year and the trip is worth it.  But don't drive it alone.  Take some friends and family along (carpool - split the costs of the trip). 

A great day spent improving your rifle marksmanship skills at a great range while meeting and shooting with a great group of people.  You won't regret it and I'll bet you'll come back for more.  I do.

Maybe I'll see you there some day.

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Re: Why Action Field Shooting?
« Reply #2 on: November 18, 2007, 01:42:22 PM »

     Nothing beats pop-up targets out to 500 yards! Why, some of them are even easy to see! ;D

     And when you combine moving with shooting, it's a whole new experience. Not only getting up from the bench, but actually moving downrange, nailing targets as you go? SHAZ-ZAM!

     Only thing better is when you are squadded with a team, and the team takes on the range!!

     Ya-hooo! [A little Texas lingo, there... ;D]
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Re: Why Action Field Shooting?
« Reply #3 on: July 06, 2008, 08:02:05 PM »

     Yes, whether you are an Appleseeder or not, you can benefit from both the challenge and the learning of an RWVA pop-up shoot. Not to mention that it's not often you get to shoot targets up to 500 yards away (you start out on the ones close up, so you can get zeroes as you move out to the more distant targets).

    The 2008 schedule is on this board, at http://appleseedinfo.org/smf/index.php?topic=1305.0

     Next up is the Sept 20th RWVA US Army WW2 Sniper School - the only one on the planet, the only one in the country. Lifted right out of the pages of the original 1944 US Army field manual, and as close to the original course as you can get.

     Some participants get in the spirit of things, and arrive in authentic uniforms and gear.

     Others come with modern rifles and scopes, to learn to shoot long-range.

     Both are welcome for this event.

     We start out with some basic review of marksmanship, some refresher firing and zeroing so that when you go up on the long-range, you'll be ready to knock the targets down.

     Altho the original US Army WW2 sniping course went out only to 400 yards, it's surprisingly a good challenge for the modern rifleman.

     Don't miss it. You won't find it anywhere else. And it only comes once a year...
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Re: Why Action Field Shooting?
« Reply #4 on: July 06, 2008, 08:20:48 PM »
I think these are great for your children, if they can handle that centerfire rifle you bought them.  Shooting paper is okay, lot's of us do it (some).  However, if you really want to get your children excited about shooting that centerfire rifle the pop ups are the hot ticket!  That's what they get excited about, that's what they remember!  Get'em excited about shooting and hopefully they'll stick with it.

We had 3 youngsters under 14 years of age at the recent Ramseur RBC.  They'll probably remember the RBC (hot, dusty, long days, rifles to clean each night, etc.)  But what they'll really remember is going to the pop up range on Wednesday night and knocking down pop ups all the way out to 400 yds. with those centerfire rifles.  They weren't shooting off a bench or a bipod - they were using the sling supported prone position and wearing out those pops ups, and some were tough shots - just head and shoulders showing.  That memory, the fun, the excitement, the congratulations from the adults and the look in their dad's eyes is what will stick with them and hopefully keep'em coming back.

You won't know how much fun you missed if you pass it up.

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Re: Why Action Field Shooting?
« Reply #5 on: July 06, 2008, 09:05:48 PM »
Shhhhh... when people find out about these, they'll stop wanting to shoot paper.   ;D

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Re: Why Action Field Shooting?
« Reply #6 on: July 10, 2008, 10:29:15 AM »
Its great to have "Old Fred" chime in. This valuable program is often under attended. There is certainly room for more shooters. This past year we have tried to focus on getting ready for the fall events ie the WW2 Sniper School September 20 and the KWSS in December. The WW2 event, as are all pop-up events, is open to both scoped and un-scoped rifles however we try to encourage un-scoped rifles for the WW2 event;better bragging rights.The max range at the WW2SS is 400 and although tough its doable with iron sights. A scoped rifle is almost a requirement if one wants to qualify at the KKWS. The small target at 500 is a real challenge for iron sights.

Our objective is to train riflemen and women. I don't know about anyone else but I believe this type training is as good as it gets. When shooting black dots the shooter gets his NPOA and shoots what ever number of rounds at one target. In field shooting the shooter must constantly adjust the NPOA with each shot. It is also great for learning to shoot the BSZ. The bonus is its one heck of a lot of fun.

This past year in order to help with cost anyone that attended three paid shoots gets to shoot the KWSS free. We will most likely do the same next year.

Hope to see you there.
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