Project Appleseed

Welcome to the Appleseed forums braindoc.

Yes there is a gap.
No, it does not have an adverse effect on accuracy at an Appleseed event.
Yes it looks like poor quality control.
No, I have not attempted to repair the poor machining.  I applied the product plus blue locktight and went to the range.  It worked, I scored Rifleman.  JB weld is not required.

After reading Hatcher's Book of the Garand I realized that when you make precision gun parts, you measure the parts you make, you measure the tools you use to make those parts (for wear) and the you set up ways to maintain the calibration of the measuring devices to insure they don't introduce errors due to handling/wear.

Tools used to cut dovetails wear, measuring devices wear.

Something as simple as a Stanley tape measure will eventually wear to the point where it can be unusable.  Where I work we sell our product on cores.  The cores have to be cut withing a 1/16" of what the customer orders.  We've had complaints for cores that were off and the tape measures used to measure those cores were found to be unserviceable.  Now we have a steel calibration shaft that is used to "check" tape measure with every so often to insure the customer gets the core length they order.

Hey, they work, what more can you ask?

Quote from: eaglescouter on May 09, 2009, 07:01:11 PM
Yes there is a gap.
No, it does not have an adverse effect on accuracy at an Appleseed event.
Yes it looks like poor quality control.

Not all factory Ruger barrels have exactly the same dovetail cut size.  They are close, but not exactly the same.  Tech-Sights are deliberately made with the ridge on their bottom which you must file/sand to fit your dovetail.  If you remove too much, it will be more loose.  If you use a .920 barrel and use the Tech-Sight barrel adapter, the front sight fits better than it does in the factory Ruger dovetail cut.

Quote from: fepowered on May 10, 2009, 12:37:53 AM
Not all factory Ruger barrels have exactly the same dovetail cut size.  They are close, but not exactly the same.  Tech-Sights are deliberately made with the ridge on their bottom which you must file/sand to fit your dovetail.  If you remove too much, it will be more loose.  If you use a .920 barrel and use the Tech-Sight barrel adapter, the front sight fits better than it does in the factory Ruger dovetail cut.

Then it would behove Tech-Sight to maybe mention this in their instructions - there is absolutely no mention of filing.

This leads to the use of more "persuasion" than is prudent to draft the front sight back in.

Bear in mind that the owner of Tech Sights is an Appleseed supporter; he sends out material on our program with each order. I don't know of any other factory rep which does that.
I think that he's done a good job; if one doesn't like the product he provides, one should give him feed back.

Or, better yet, start one's own company which hails closer machining tolerances.

I have a set on my Ruger. Yes, it took some loctite (actually, nail polish) upon installation. It hasn't slipped since, and if it does, why, I'll simply repair it.

Riflemen adapt, overcome, and improvise. It really is that simple. We don't let a small gap or a loose locking nut kick our butts.

Since this thread was started, I wonder how many Riflemen were made with "ratty" Tech Sights? I'd wager quite a few. The guy that started all of this crying?

Gone, off trolling for more attention on more fertile forums; yet this thread drones on. All of the issues were addressed, solutions have been offered. Yet on it continues.

Well said Talon! We've beat this subject to death let's move on. Let's talk about what we can do to make more riflemen.