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Chinese Surplus .308?

Started by MeanStreaker, November 15, 2008, 07:42:57 PM

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MeanStreaker

November 15, 2008, 07:42:57 PM
Hey everyone,

An ammo expert I am not.  Hoping you could help me out.

I have a guy at my range that says he has a bunch of Chinese surplus in sealed cans of 300 rounds that he's had stored for at least a decade.  Said he'd sell a can for $90.  Thirty cents a round sounds pretty good to me nowadays, but I know nothing of it.  My stock-up supply has been South African and that's about all I'm used to.  Is Chinese surplus good stuff?  Junk?  Any opinions?

Thanks.
Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom must, like men, undergo the fatigue of supporting it.
--Thomas Paine

Used to ride a Kawasaki Mean Streak motorcycle.  I'm not an angry, naked runner.  :)

Francis Marion

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November 15, 2008, 07:55:09 PM Last Edit: November 15, 2008, 09:40:46 PM by Francis Marion
Oh, how I miss that Chinese ammo.  Less than $2 per box in its heyday. 
I highly recommend Chinese. 
My experience with Chinese commercial 5.56 , surp 7.62x39 ball ammo, commercial 7.62x39, and surp 7.62x54r ball is very positive, and makes me rue the Clinton importation ban.  Expect quality to be good/great.  9x19 mm brass-not so good; loose primer pockets.  9mm Mak- outstanding. 
Mil spec ball is usually corrosive (not to mention un-importable); that might be the case with the 7.62x51 also. 
Most likely the 7.62x51 will be steel cased and of course berdan primed.  
Chinese commercial ammo is usually non corrosive.   

fepowered

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November 15, 2008, 09:47:58 PM
Buy it all!!!!! ;D   Seriously......
"Today, we need a nation of Riflemen, citizens who are not only prepared to take arms, but citizens who regard the preservation of freedom as the basic purpose of their daily life and who are
willing to consciously work and sacrifice for that freedom."

Wade

#3
November 15, 2008, 10:13:22 PM
If you don't want it all let me know send me his phone number  and I will buy it  ,,,I have some still and it is pretty good stuff.


Wade
Got Tired of looking for a Rifle Range So we Dug one up!
WOOF!
4 box's #1 the soap box#2 the letter box #3 the ballot box #4 the cartridge box, The founding fathers picked up the Cartridge box so that WE could use the first 3,,IMO If you don't use those 3 then you dishonour the founding Fathers !

PJEVANS

#4
November 15, 2008, 10:22:59 PM
Let me know if you don't want it. 
Shipping and all, its a pretty good steal!
Phil Evans
'Loud noises do not usually stop a gun fight,
     Well placed hits do'

Longshot

#5
November 16, 2008, 12:42:15 AM
Be aware that it's probably steel-core, VERY usefull in a narrow sort of way...



LS
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Buckshot

#6
November 16, 2008, 01:18:00 AM
Is this in galvanized steel cans with a D-ring and large tear off soldered on, and a cheap web carry handle?

On 7.62 X 51 NATO stripper clips?

I thought it was Indian, I have a couple of cans I have never opened.

Buckshot

Wade

#7
November 16, 2008, 01:30:14 AM
Quote from: Buckshot on November 16, 2008, 01:18:00 AM
Is this in galvanized steel cans with a D-ring and large tear off soldered on, and a cheap web carry handle?

On 7.62 X 51 NATO stripper clips?

I thought it was Indian, I have a couple of cans I have never opened.

Buckshot


The chinese stuff I have came that way,,,,let me know if you don't want that commie ammo.

Wade
Got Tired of looking for a Rifle Range So we Dug one up!
WOOF!
4 box's #1 the soap box#2 the letter box #3 the ballot box #4 the cartridge box, The founding fathers picked up the Cartridge box so that WE could use the first 3,,IMO If you don't use those 3 then you dishonour the founding Fathers !

arashi

#8
March 16, 2009, 06:33:33 PM
Quote from: Buckshot on November 16, 2008, 01:18:00 AM
Is this in galvanized steel cans with a D-ring and large tear off soldered on, and a cheap web carry handle?

On 7.62 X 51 NATO stripper clips?

I have a bunch of that.  It is corrosive, steel jacketed, lead core, copper washed.

There are a bunch of stripper clips loose in the can.

It will have some split necks, but shoots fine.

hawkeye

#9
March 16, 2009, 08:05:43 PM
Loose primer pockets, split necks? OK to shoot?
"Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a piece of crap by the clean end." Texas A&M student

hawkeye

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March 16, 2009, 08:13:36 PM Last Edit: March 16, 2009, 08:18:35 PM by hawkeye
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"Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a piece of crap by the clean end." Texas A&M student

Buckshot

#11
March 17, 2009, 12:04:19 AM
Quote from: MeanStreaker on November 15, 2008, 07:42:57 PM
Hey everyone,

An ammo expert I am not.  Hoping you could help me out.

I have a guy at my range that says he has a bunch of Chinese surplus in sealed cans of 300 rounds that he's had stored for at least a decade.  Said he'd sell a can for $90.  Thirty cents a round sounds pretty good to me nowadays, but I know nothing of it.  My stock-up supply has been South African and that's about all I'm used to.  Is Chinese surplus good stuff?  Junk?  Any opinions?

Thanks.

Is this in galvanized cans with the opening soldered shut and a handle of cheap cotton web attached to the can?  Is it on stripper clips for the M14, etc.?

I have a couple of cans of the description I just gave, but I have not opened them and are not sure if they are Chinese or the vile Indian stuff.

Buckshot

Buckshot

#12
March 17, 2009, 12:07:39 AM
Sorry about that, for some reason only the first few posts showed up until AFTER I posted to it, THEN I could see the other posts, including my original higher in the thread.

Strange things on the net sometimes.

Buckshot

colycat

#13
March 17, 2009, 12:52:22 AM
What ever FM says is plated in gold. O0  I also like FE's advice.  Remember who your friends are when sharing. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Coly
"These are the times that try men's souls. The summer soldier and the sunshine patriot will, in this crisis, shrink from the service of their country; but he that stands it now, deserves the love and thanks of man and woman. Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered; yet we have this consolation with us, that the harder the conflict, the more glorious the triumph. What we obtain too cheap, we esteem too lightly: it is dearness only that gives everything its value."   T Paine

100

Buzzstrike

#14
March 17, 2009, 03:07:59 AM
I just ran through the last of my Norinco stuff at the Toccoa AS this weekend.  My FAL ran 101% with it. 

I only had one stoppage.  It was with a mag that had some red tape on it.  Now I remember WHY it had the red tape on it.  Weak follower spring.  $$-0,

Good stuff.  Wish I had more.

buzz.
Montani Semper Liberi (Mountaineers Are Always Free)

Old Dog

#15
March 17, 2009, 07:34:23 AM
A couple of years ago Hollywood brought a newly built .308 M1 to Ramseur and was shooting some strange (almost pinkish red) looking Chinese surplus 7.62X51 ammo in it.  It ran fine and hit fine, steel cases, Chinese and all.
"The rifle itself has no moral stature, since it has no will of its own. Naturally, it may be used by evil men for evil purposes, but there are more good men than evil, and while the latter cannot be persuaded to the path of righteousness by propaganda, they can certainly be corrected by good men with rifles."

—Jeff Cooper, The Art of the Rifle
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