Project Appleseed

UPDATED 09/18/22

Hear ye, Hear ye!! (Ghostring made me say that  )

Pursuant to recent orders of the Continental Congress (upon the recommendation of George Washington and the Board of War and Ordinance) four companies of riflemen are to be raised in Virginia and two companies in Maryland. Each company consisting of a Captain, three Lieutenants, four Sergeants, four Corporals, a Drummer or Trumpeter and sixty‐eight privates.

The Provisional Rifle Corps have been formed!!

Upon this day Captain Daniel Morgan of the 11th Virginia Regiment - Morgan's Rifle Corps - finds himself in search of Riflemen for his Company. Though he is currently away on our new Nation's business, the Captain bids those who wish to meet with him complete a simple task. A calling card, if you will.

Forthwith have each volunteer form up in a manner well‐regulated by your Shoot Boss - Gathering with them their wits, skill, rifle and ONE. SINGLE. ROUND. Then join me on the green to fire with careful aim at a shingle placed 250 yards afield. Those able to mark the shingle with a hit may be received by Captain Morgan upon his return! HUZZAH!

…Sadly, those unable to make their mark will not have that honor.

What say you! Have I any volunteers?

Welcome, one and all, to the Roster of Morgan's Riflemen!

At full distance events in Texas and New Mexico we have inaugurated the Marking of the Morgan's Shingle.

A 7.5x10 steel shingle is placed at 250 yards OR A Half-size shingle at 125 yards for a 200yd RKD (no shingle eligible at a 100yd RKD)
Steel in odd sizes are hard to come by. It's been determined that an inch deviation in either direction is acceptable. i.e. Ramblin Wreck and his 7x11 are just fine.

Paper shingles and Patches now available to order in the Shoot Box Store!

Each participant and member of the cadre are invited to step up and attempt to make their mark.

This can be done from any standard Appleseed shooting position.  Bonus for a mark made from a standing position!  Shoot bosses, if you have a Rifleman make his mark from a standing position, PM Mrs. Smith and we'll get your shooter his bonus!

The catch is that you can only take a single shot, with a cold bore, at this target at any given time. For our purposes, a cold bore is defined as a rifle that has had sufficient time since last fired to return to ambient temperature. On a warm day, that's ambient in the shade.  An additional attempt may be made in the course of a given event, if there's time, provided the rifles have had adequate time to cool off to ambient.  If a second attempt is done, anyone who already successfully marked the shingle from prone must then attempt it from STANDING.  That's how Morgan's men did it 

Participants in New Mexico, Texas, and Tennessee have successfully joined the ranks of Morgan's Riflemen.    Huzzah!!!

Attached are pics of the Certificates and Patches awarded when a shooter successfully marks the shingle.

Shoot Bosses wishing to participate in this endeavor can obtain the Morgan's Riflemen flag from Humphry's of Philadelphia ( https://humphrysflag.com/morgans-rifles/ )   

Protocol files, including the official script, and certificate files (two different sizes of certificate) are available for download on TIPs, here: https://appleseedinfo.org/tips/sb-certificates.php

Texas is currently in possession of two Shingles and two Flags, which we're bouncing around the state as needed. 

New Mexico has one shingle, and is in process of obtaining a flag.

Shoot Bosses who run the Shingle at their events are requested to post the following information to this thread:
          Date and Location of Shoot
          Names of the qualifying shooters, as well as City and State of residence, if available.  Please limit names to first name,
                last initial, or Forum names for Cadre.
          PICTURES!!!!!

Ghostring or myself will then update the Roster to reflect the new additions.

There's a little flexibility in how it's run, but the short answer is, COLD BORE, SINGLE SHOT.  Multiple attempts may be made throughout the course of the weekend, provided it's done at a time that provides for a cold rifle.  Allow any shooting position desired for the first attempt, BUT, if you hit it prone, any subsequent attempt MUST be made from standing. Those who miss the first time may continue to shoot it from prone.

It has been determined that a scaled target (3.75"x5") may be placed at 125 yards for used at a 200yard Rimfire KD.  It will NOT be allowed at 100yard RFKD events.  There is, at this time, only the one patch design, for 250 yards.  That patch can be awarded for any approved distance. 

This event component has been officially adopted by Project Appleseed!!      Patches and properly scaled paper targets are available in the Shoot Box Store, and a printable certificate is available in TIPS under the Shoot Boss Tab/Certificates.

Thanks for joining us!

Huzzah!

PS: as questions are asked in this thread, I'll add the answers to this post, and delete the original questions, in an attempt to limit clutter in the thread.  Thanks for understanding!!!

The official Roster of Morgan's Riflemen!!!  Huzzah!!   

This list will be updated until we reach 96 members of Morgan's Rifle Corps - the number of men Morgan had in his original Regiment in August of 1775. I encourage Shoot Bosses to continue to submit photos and stats from new members of Morgan's Riflemen as they qualify, however. They're still Morgan's Men! Doing so will keep the Roster growing forever.

April, 2023

Event Location:Palm Bay, FL
        ChiefLane                       Elida, OH
        ScubaSteve                    Lakeland, FL
        Davidjr.                          O'Brien, FL

December, 2022

Event Location: Pelham, TN
        Booney Stomper              TN
        ArmyVet                          TN
        Ivan                               TN
        Tennesse Beast               TN
        Upacreek                        GA - STANDING.

November, 2022

Event Location: Gainesville, TX
        Tyler  B.                         Texas - STANDING
        Yuri Z.                           Texas
        Captain                          Arkansas
        pballer2oo7                    Oklahoma
        AF5US                           Plano, TX - STANDING

Event Location: Beaver Falls, PA
        Yates                             Sewickley, PA

October, 2022

Event Location: New Philadelphia, OH
        Shadow870                   Tipp City, OH
        DeLongshot                   Newark, OH
        MI-copperhead              Tekonsha, MI
        Paul Kirby                     Peru, NY

Event Location: Sudlersville, MD
        Bill K                             Severn, MD
        Tim L                            Waynesboro PA
        Catch-10-22                  Accokeek, MD

Event Location: Palm Bay, FL
        Liberty SIREN                Melbourne, FL
        TheMenace                    Rockledge, FL
        Trident                          St Cloud, FL
        Kenetic Energy              Dania Beach, FL

Event Location: Evansville, IN
        Allisa M                          Cleveland, OH
        Bryan M                         Cleveland, OH
        Sur+Rifle                       Boonville, IN

Event Location: Hot Springs, AR
        Buddy Love                     AR
        Sophisticated Redneck     AR
        Jim P.                             AR
        Bright1                           AR
        Mark H.                          TN

September, 2022

Event Location: Puryear, TN
        Michael C.                       Bartlett, TN  Standing
        Steve K                          Germantown, TN
        N.P.                                Cordova, TN
        John D.

August, 2022

Event Location: Midland, TX
        Kathryn K.                      Amarillo, TX
        Scott K                           Amarillo, TX
        Swiftongal                      Swifton, AR
        Beavertail                       El Paso, TX
        David S.                         Midland, TX
        ApprenticeCarpenter       Lubbock, TX

July, 2022

Event Location: Clintonville, NY
        Paul K.                          Keeseville NY

June, 2022

Event Location:  Laramie, WY
        RegularGuy                   WY
        Flux                              CO
        CodeFogey                    CO
        TheGlendoKid                WY

Event Location: Sudlersville, MD
        William B                      Clayton, DE     
        Jake M                          Annapolis, MD  Standing

Event Location: Douglas, WY
        Noah                            HI (youth shooter!)
        OpenSites                     MI
        M1Bzrk                         WY   Standing

May, 2022

Event Location, Gainesville, TX
        Jim L                            TX
        Kevin P.                        Denton, TX

Event Location, McMinnville, TN
        Nick E                           McDonald, TN

December, 2021

Event Location, Pelham, TN
       Chris K                          McDonald, TN
       Jacob L                          Monteagle, TN

November, 2021

Event Location, Huntsville, AL
       Ramblin Wreck                S. Pittsburgh, Tennessee
       upacreek                        Acworth, Georgia
       HardHolder                     Decatur, Alabama

September, 2021

Event Location: Talkeetna, AK
      Robert Y.                         Palmer, Alaska
      Jeff L.                             Fairbanks, Alaska
      Jameson L.                      Fairbanks, Alaska
      ItsanSKS                         Palmer, Alaska

Event Location: Puryear, TN
     Michael                             TN
     OP 78                               TN      The FIRST of our Morgan's Riflemen to strike the target from STANDING!
     Rustygun                          TN
     Alan                                 TN
     JPL                                   Possum Trot, KY (I had to! Coolest town name ever!)

December, 2020

Event Location:  South Huntsville, AL
     Michael                             Huntsville, Alabama
     OldNavyDoc                      Nashville, Tennessee
     CokeGuy                           Ellijay, Georgia

Event Location:  Gainesville, TX
     Gigi                                  Texas
     Erik G.
     Casey N.
     Robyinbird                        Texas
     Seth W.

Event Location: Temple, TX
     JimTX49                          Texas
     BillJac                             Texas
     Jan                                 Texas
     Adam                              Texas
     Garret                             Texas
     David                              Texas

Event Location: Pelham, TN
     Google                            Alabama
     Morpheus                        Georgia
     Maximum Ordinate           Alabama

October, 2020

Event Location: New Braunfels, TX
     Shawn
     Chris

Event location: Raton, NM
     Ken G.                           Highlands Ranch, CO
     LibertyHammer              Albuquerque, NM
     Mandy W.                      Albuquerque, NM
     Mahamotorworks            Albuquerque, NM
     Range Mom               Albuquerque, NM
     Shane D.                       Tucson, AZ
     Stephen D.                    Tucson, AZ
     Mrs. Smith                    Chaparral, NM

Morgan's Riflemen, Raton, NM, October 3/4, 2020!

Scott, LoraLee, Traci, Frank, Ken, Mandy, Stephen, and Shane!

This just in! The Roster is pleased to announce the inclusion of Riflemen minted in Tennessee.

Please welcome Google, Morpheus, and Maximum Ordinate.

Huzzah!!!!

Updated Pics!

Morpheus!


Google!

Let's see if I can't get you the information you're asking for:

On the 6th of December 2020, five of our seven KD participants connected with the shingle.  Image is attached:

Terry A.
Erik G.
Casey N.
Robyin P.
Seth W.

Although we recorded their home states on the certificate, I did not think to record the information.  Let me know if this is considered highly-desired and I can email the participants if necessary.

Temple, TX December 5-6, 2020

Name    State     Instructor
-------     --------     -------------
Jim      - Texas - TxJim49
Bill       - Texas - BillJac
Adam  - Texas - Adam
Jan      - Texas via  Czechoslovakia (to escape Communism)
Garret - Texas
David - Texas

Extra! Extra!  Read all about it!

Dateline: December 13, Huntsville, Alabama 200yd Rimfire Known Distance event

This reporter has learned that our FIRST Rimfire Morgan's Riflemen were minted this weekend! Huzzah! Huzzah! Huzzah!

Lemme tell ya, folks, that scaled shingle is DANG SMALL at 125yds, and for these folks to make their marks at that distance with .22lr is nothing short of awe-inspiring!


Congratulations, and welcome to Morgan's Riflemen to:

Michael!


OldNavyDoc!


CokeGuy!


Our three intrepid trailblazers, with one VERY proud Shoot Boss 


Stay tuned for more breaking news, only on this station!

Addendum: Patches were shipped with time to spare (I SWEAR they were!), and they are, unfortunately, in USPS limbo at the moment    As soon as they resurface, the recipients will be squared away.

Iowa has a target on the way and will be part of our KD in 2021

Mike

Quote from: Twineagles on December 16, 2020, 11:58:20 AM
Iowa has a target on the way and will be part of our KD in 2021

Mike

Mike!  So glad to hear it!  I know the flag runs a little pricey, but the smaller versions are pretty reasonable, and if you can swing it, are an awesome addition to the process.

I'm working on updating the certificates as we speak, so that you'll have the option of printing one in a more readily frameable format.  This suggestion made good sense to me, so I'm making it happen.  Once the dropbox has been updated with all appropriate files, the link to said box will be sent to you :-)

We're happy that Iowa has decided to participate!

Please reach out to me if you need anything at all,

In Liberty,
Traci

I am proud to announce 5 additions to the ranks of Morgan's Rifle Company. Despite our shingle not being regulation size, it is only 7"x11" for at total of 77 square inches, that didn't seem to matter to these shooters who certainly know what they are about. At the KD in Puryear, TN on September 11-12 we added the following members.
Michael, OP78, Rustygun, and Alan.  OP 78 hit the 7x11 shingle STANDING on Sunday morning with his first shot of the day. Four qualifiers are from the Volunteer State and JPL is from Possum Trot (seriously) Kentucky.


JPL who only coached and drove the train on Saturday asked if he could have a try on Sunday. HUZZAH JPL.


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When an old dude with a .30 caliber M1A nails the shingle with irons, you KNOW that old dude is not to be trifled with!  Huzzah, Wreck!
Hunstville, AL, Nov 13, 2021

Huzzah!

I think this idea is great; fun, easy add-on.
My question is, you are using a 9" x 14" plate but Ramblin' Wreck's thread mentions a 7" x 11" plate...
I am of the mind that if Appleseed is going to consider this "a thing", a definitive size should be agreed upon.
Everything I seem to remember about Morgan's Shingle mentions 7" for at least one of the dimensions; I have seen 7" x 10".
Wudya think?

Greg

Quote from: Burnett on September 15, 2021, 07:08:39 PM
I think this idea is great; fun, easy add-on.
My question is, you are using a 9" x 14" plate but Ramblin' Wreck's thread mentions a 7" x 11" plate...
I am of the mind that if Appleseed is going to consider this "a thing", a definitive size should be agreed upon.
Everything I seem to remember about Morgan's Shingle mentions 7" for at least one of the dimensions; I have seen 7" x 10".
Wudya think?

Greg

Hi Greg!

I'm happy to address your thoughts, sir!

For starters, this is not an "Official" Appleseed thing.  A couple folks got together, designed a patch, paid for said patches out of their own pockets, settled on parameters, and invited anyone who wanted to join them. That's the long and the short of it.  It's just a fun thing we get to do.

The officially unofficial size of the shingle is 9x14 for a couple reasons. 

Have you ever really looked at wooden house shingles?  Particularly ones made before modern manufacturing?  The first thing you'd notice is that no two shingles are the same size. In fact, they were quite irregular. They ranged in width from 4 or 5 to 12 or 14 inches wide, and were usually 18 to 24 inches long.  Why?  They needed LOTS  of overlap when roofing a house for insulation purposes, to prevent leaks, and to make the roof thicker and more durable.  Like a great deal of our early history, a lot of the Morgan's Riflemen lore comes from an oral tradition.  We can't possibly know with absolute certainty what size shingles he preferred, but we CAN look at houses built during the 18th century and see what those shingles are like.  When Morgan went to the sawmill and hauled away a wagonload of shingles for use as targets, he very likely got a bit of a variety, and probably split the REALLY wide ones. 9" wide seemed a reasonable middle ground, and we thought 18"+ long was excessive.  This is as big as we felt the plate should reasonably be.

The second reason was commercial availability.  There's a dude who sells a 9x14 AR500 plate on Amazon for a reasonable price, and ships them in a USPS Priority Mail envelope, because he's clever. It's a flat rate no matter what it weighs, and it fits perfectly.

Now, Wreck used a 7x11 plate.  Why?  I suspect it's because that's what he already HAD.  It's not my place to ask the man to spend money on a plate when he's already got one that's near enough.  Particularly on something that we do for fun, and we eat the cost of because we love it. If he wants to go smaller than the recommended size, that's between him and his students.  We don't, however, feel it's appropriate to go any bigger.  9x14 is PLENTY big enough.

I do hope I answered your questions satisfactorily!  And I'm tickled pink you like the idea.  I look forward to adding your name to the Roster someday soon!

In Liberty,
Traci

Regarding the size of the shingle we used, I ordered it specifically for this challenge. I did some research online and most of the references I found listed the shingle as around 7" wide and of differing heights but the most common was 10".  The closest size to that I could find was 7"x11" AR500 half inch plate. I ordered two. This is one of the references for a shot from 250 yards on that size target. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morgan's_Riflemen
BTW, we have some really good shots in the program but I'm not holding a shingle between my knees for any of them to shoot standing at 60 yards. 
Wreck

Quote from: Mrs. Smith on September 17, 2021, 12:00:29 AM
For starters, this is not an "Official" Appleseed thing.

Traci-
That's kind of to my point; I think it should be a thing.
And if it were to become a thing, it seems like it should be standardized.

Alaska checking in, fresh from the final Known Distance Clinic of 2021, held at Upper Susitna Shooters Association in Talkeetna.

Out of 7 participants, 4 were able to make a cold bore shot on "Morgans Shingle".

The only piece of steel that I had available for this challenge measured 8"Wx16"T, so I marked out a 7"x8" portion in the middle of the steel; in order to 'qualify', the round had to impact within the mark, as verified by spotting scope.

Each shooter was given one opportunity at the beginning of the day- their first shot of the day was at Morgan's Shingle.

The following shooters were inducted into the ranks of Morgan's Rifles:

On Saturday, September 18th,
Robert Y. of Palmer, Alaska

On Sunday, September 19th,
Jeff L., of Fairbanks, Alaska
Jameson L., of Fairbanks, Alaska
ItsanSKS, of Palmer, Alaska

Alas, I did not have patches or certificates to issue to those who earned them. 

Good afternoon, All!

A bump to put this back on the general radar, but also to remind the Shoot Bosses who run KD and 200yd RKD events that it's their responsibility to post here on this thread if they qualify new Morgan's Riflemen.  I've seen folks post their patches who aren't on the roster, and they've EARNED that distinction!

Shoot Bosses, if you don't post them, I can't add them.    You know who you are!

As a refresher:

Shoot Bosses who run the Shingle at their events are requested to post the following information to this thread:
          Date and Location of Shoot
          Names of the qualifying shooters, as well as City and State of residence, if available.  Please limit names to first name,
                last initial, or Forum names for Cadre.
          PICTURES!!!!!

Ghostring or myself will then update the Roster to reflect the new additions.

Thanks, ya'll!  And Merry Christmas!

In Liberty,
Traci

Tennessee checking in.

Pelham TN, Dec 31, 2021

Chris K of McDonald TN, and Jacob L. of Monteagle TN hit a cold bore shot on a 6X11 steel placed at 250 yards to join Morgan's Rifle Company.

Huzzah,
Cleveland

Quote from: Cleveland on January 03, 2022, 09:01:54 PM

Tennessee checking in.

Pelham TN, Dec 31, 2021

Chris K of McDonald TN, and Jacob L. of Monteagle TN hit a cold bore shot on a 6X11 steel placed at 250 yards to join Morgan's Rifle Company.

Huzzah,
Cleveland

Thank you, Cleveland!  Huzzah, indeed!  The Roster has been updated.

Next time get some pictures 

Traci

We've got a RFKD in August, I just checked with the range about hanging a 4.5"x7" steel target, unfortunately they're paper targets only.  Does anyone have a 4.5"x7" target in PDF I can use?

Quote from: GTEngineer on February 01, 2022, 10:36:48 PM
We've got a RFKD in August, I just checked with the range about hanging a 4.5"x7" steel target, unfortunately they're paper targets only.  Does anyone have a 4.5"x7" target in PDF I can use?

Gimme a bit, GT. We'll get you fixed up 

The great state of Tennessee checking in, today, 14May2022, Nick E. of McDonald TN hit Morgan's rifle company with a cold bore shot at the McMinnville TN 200 yard RKD.

Huzzah,
Cleveland

Quote from: Cleveland on May 14, 2022, 09:36:50 PM
The great state of Tennessee checking in, today, 14May2022, Nick E. of McDonald TN hit Morgan's rifle company with a cold bore shot at the McMinnville TN 200 yard RKD.

Huzzah,
Cleveland

Huzzah, Rifleman!  Welcome to the Company!

It is with great pleasure that I announce that during the KD shoot in Gainesville, TX on May 22, 2022, we had 2 people qualify on Morgan's Shingle.

One was a paid shooter named Jim Lohkamp.

The other person was . . . drumroll please . . .

Project Appleseed's very own Kevin Proctor!!!!

Huzzah! Huzzah! Huzzah! 

Great job, Gainesville!!!  Roster updated!

Quote from: 300berg on May 25, 2022, 10:57:31 PM
Congrats!

Looking up about the scaled target of 4.5x7 for rimfire @ 125y, I didn't immediately find steel to purchase.

I found this: https://moatargets.com/25-percent-IPSC-ar500-steel-target-one-hole

Thoughts or links?

Going forward, i think the official target size will be changed to reflect the shingle on the Redcoat target. Full size, that's 7.5x10. At 125, that's 3.75x5.

There's an IPSC target, the "A-zone," in 6x11. That's probably close enough for the full size.  https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07H4ZHRBV/ref=cm_sw_r_em_apan_i_43C0441MY1632182KZFG?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1

They're working out a paper target design,for ease of implementation. One for each distance.  It's a work in progress.

Quote from: 300berg on May 25, 2022, 10:57:31 PM
Congrats!

Looking up about the scaled target of 4.5x7 for rimfire @ 125y, I didn't immediately find steel to purchase.

I found this: https://moatargets.com/25-percent-IPSC-ar500-steel-target-one-hole

Thoughts or links?

There's a company, SendCutSend, that does laser cutting and has 1/4-1/2" AR500. If you let me know what size mounting holes and where you want them I can CAD up a shingle. Pricewise they're quoting ~$29 for a 3.75"x5"x3/8" @ qty 1 and ~$33 for qty 2 shipped, which is comparable to what you found. Quotes for a full size 3/8" shingle are ~$80, which I'm not sure are worth it.

Edit: Here's a link to the 3.75"x5"x3/8" target with a clearance hole for a 1/2" bolt. https://cart.sendcutsend.com/noy9xpzsaxcr

Sudlersville, MD  200 yrd Rimfire KD  June 11, 2022

Shingle Hit Qualifiers:

William B   Clayton, DE      Prone
Jake M       Annapolis, MD  Offhand

Huzzah!   

Clintonville NY (8702) - July 10th, 2022

Paul K. - Keeseville NY - Prone 125y Rimfire








Just got it...

Greetings,

We had a KD shoot in Coeur D'Alene on October 15-16, 2016 where several folks earned the patch from Shoot Boss Kimber Custom.  The AAR thread is here: https://appleseedinfo.org/smf/index.php?topic=49799.0  We hit an 8" gong at 250 yards.  In the AAR there is a link to the photo library.  I'm the second from right, and Lance (forgot his forum handle) is third from right.  Both of us are holding Kimber's special patches along with our KD RM rockers or patch. 

Here's the photo from the event:  https://photos.google.com/share/AF1QipNht89HJkfxCpkwvHxkPfzdOCvYIBnSBWf5Y-nowBHVf3RNpbYdX10iO6jmUNPj_A/photo/AF1QipOGIUCIu1yvaf5i40CHqUWmfIEH74MjckcBrYPM?key=RWV5RVh6bmduclc1UnlwMlJVLTk5a010SzJoaGZB

I'm hoping I can get added to the official list such that I can get one of the new patches.  My original is pretty frayed!

Thanks,

EERT (Pat)