Project Appleseed

My daughter and I recently attended a 2 day basic Appleseed, but were only able to stay for Saturday, so we only got 2 opportunities to qualify. Would there be more AQTs at a one day event, or would we have to attend both days of a 2 day?
Thanks.
Badger498
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We usually get 2 AQT's in at one day events.

Same.  I normally get 2 AQTs in on a Saturday.  Sunday can be 7+ depending on the shooters.

We had a One-day, Two-day event earlier this year.  We were closed out on Sunday by an impending snow storm and pushed and got 4 AQTs in on
Saturday. That remains my record for a Saturday but I have gotten 3 in on two other occasions.  There is the possibility of coming out Sunday only.  Much depends on how sold out the event becomes but  a Sunday walk on is often possible.  I still recommend both days as a refresher to polish up all the bits of marksmanship to set you up for success on Sunday.

 If a scheduled 1 day event we do 3. Even if we run longer, they don't have another chance tomorrow.

If time allows for more there will be more.

Depends on the time of year.  I consider it great to get just one in for December around the shortest day of the year.  The rest of the year, though, 2 is typical for most groups of students.  The students set the pace, though, ultimately.  If it's a very young group, then just 1 AQT may be all that can be done safely.

Thanks guys.

Same as most here.  If things go well we'll get a couple "official" AQTs on Saturday.  The first one isn't usually until 3 PM or so.

There are just too many things to teach in the lead up to the AQT to get any/many more.  If we short cut the training segments to do more AQT's we'd be wasting most student's time just to take a test they're not ready for (some would do OK but most would struggle).

The good news is Saturday is where the training happens so where a shooter learns the most.  Sunday is when we polish those new skills and put a them to the test with more AQTs.

I always tell people who ask that if you can only do one day come on Saturday.

Quote from: Lomshek on May 19, 2019, 12:59:16 AM
Same as most here.  If things go well we'll get a couple "official" AQTs on Saturday.  The first one isn't usually until 3 PM or so.

There are just too many things to teach in the lead up to the AQT to get any/many more.  If we short cut the training segments to do more AQT's we'd be wasting most student's time just to take a test they're not ready for (some would do OK but most would struggle).

The good news is Saturday is where the training happens so where a shooter learns the most.  Sunday is when we polish those new skills and put a them to the test with more AQTs.

I always tell people who ask that if you can only do one day come on Saturday.

I have always found this to be a somewhat unfortunate aspect of how Appleseed events are usually set up.  It is usually not possible to get to the AQTs until the mid-to-late afternoon.  By that time, many participants are tired.  And if you are shooting at a late spring to early autumn event in the hot and humid central Midwest, that is frequently the time of peak heat and humidity.

If you are an old codger like me, by the time Sunday morning rolls around, you might be pretty tired and sore as well.

I have sometimes suggested that if the event includes individuals who have already shot at one or more AS events, let them go ahead and shoot an AQT sometime in the morning of Saturday while those who have not done so observe.  This would provide a real-time demonstration of the AQT course of fire, the range commands, the shooting positions, and safety procedures for the less-experienced participants.

Quote from: pblanc on May 19, 2019, 11:24:03 AM

Quote from: Lomshek on May 19, 2019, 12:59:16 AM
Same as most here.  If things go well we'll get a couple "official" AQTs on Saturday.  The first one isn't usually until 3 PM or so.

There are just too many things to teach in the lead up to the AQT to get any/many more.  If we short cut the training segments to do more AQT's we'd be wasting most student's time just to take a test they're not ready for (some would do OK but most would struggle).

The good news is Saturday is where the training happens so where a shooter learns the most.  Sunday is when we polish those new skills and put a them to the test with more AQTs.

I always tell people who ask that if you can only do one day come on Saturday.

I have always found this to be a somewhat unfortunate aspect of how Appleseed events are usually set up.  It is usually not possible to get to the AQTs until the mid-to-late afternoon.  By that time, many participants are tired.  And if you are shooting at a late spring to early autumn event in the hot and humid central Midwest, that is frequently the time of peak heat and humidity.

If you are an old codger like me, by the time Sunday morning rolls around, you might be pretty tired and sore as well.

I have sometimes suggested that if the event includes individuals who have already shot at one or more AS events, let them go ahead and shoot an AQT sometime in the morning of Saturday while those who have not done so observe.  This would provide a real-time demonstration of the AQT course of fire, the range commands, the shooting positions, and safety procedures for the less-experienced participants.

The problem with that is you're shutting down what is an already stuffed full training schedule to do that early AQT.  We can't be everything to everyone and so we do what we can to find that happy medium that works well for most attendees.

In Ft Worth, we use an AQT and call Cease Fire to instruct the transitions.  We then complete at least three AQTs during a one-day event.  At 4:30 the shooters are always asked whether they want to shoot one more AQT or go the redcoat and end the day.  Those who want to shoot one more AQT are given the opportunity while the other shooters begin cleaning up the range and their gear - not their rifles.  Sometimes this last AQT is a quick and dirty AQT with 4 mags prepped (only takes 10 minutes with extended prep period for the additional mags).

Debbie

QuoteI have always found this to be a somewhat unfortunate aspect of how Appleseed events are usually set up.  It is usually not possible to get to the AQTs until the mid-to-late afternoon.  By that time, many participants are tired.  And if you are shooting at a late spring to early autumn event in the hot and humid central Midwest, that is frequently the time of peak heat and humidity.

If you are an old codger like me, by the time Sunday morning rolls around, you might be pretty tired and sore as well.

I have sometimes suggested that if the event includes individuals who have already shot at one or more AS events, let them go ahead and shoot an AQT sometime in the morning of Saturday while those who have not done so observe.  This would provide a real-time demonstration of the AQT course of fire, the range commands, the shooting positions, and safety procedures for the less-experienced participants.

Most of the events I have attended have always welcomed prior attendees to participate in Sunday only if they preferred. If you just came on a Sunday, you would be fresh, get some warmup and a ton of AQTs. It might be just what you are looking for!