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Started by Rayne, August 05, 2013, 12:34:56 PM

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Rayne

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huntrdan

Sounds like you will have a blast. Stay close enough that you can keep an eye on his targets. Cause targets don't lie.     ::)
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George Hacker

Quote from: Reddot on August 05, 2013, 01:32:45 PM
Rayne,
Sounds like you're ready for an orange hat!

That's what I was thinking... :)

ShadowMan
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2 clicks low

Any chance of the SB bringing a 14 year old IIT, preferably a girl to lie next to him, clear the red coat?

I have found that this will change a poor attitude on the spot.

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dond

I can't wait for the post after the event.   ::)
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oladcock

Yep, you got it figured out! My niece's husband was the same way, had "his" way, knew it all. I'd go so far and to describe his attitude toward her was a "jerk". While he was deployed she got into Appleseed, earned her patch, even did some mods to her's and the kid's 10-22's but not his. When he returned they go out to shoot, he's making all kinds of suggestions, blah, blah, blah, which she quietly ignores... They start looking at the targets! :) His whole attitude changed. This was a good thing for both of them, and yes, I separate couples right up front for a reason. Go have fun but don't tease him too much! :)....O.L.
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Quote from: Rayne on August 05, 2013, 12:34:56 PM

I ask him if he knows the meaning of the word squeeze. The big silly grin on his face tells me we're not on the same topic anymore. 

I thought you had switched topics, too.

Hey, we're just guys!    ;)
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hawkhavn

I'm thinking a popup cover, camp chair and a stool to put my feet up on.
A cooler of water and 9 hours of solid entertainment...
May even bring a camera.
>:D

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yellowhousejake

If we have Alan shoot as well, the competitiveness may be worthy of a reality TV contract.  **)

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Rayne

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AAOptics

Quote from: yellowhousejake on August 05, 2013, 08:31:12 PM
If we have Alan shoot as well, the competitiveness may be worthy of a reality TV contract.  **)

YHJ

Im just competitive with myself.


And nick ;D

Border-Run

That is about what they had to do to me. At one time I used to shoot standing unsupported Silhouette. I thought an Appleseed rifleman patch would be EASY. Well prone was getting the best of me. :sos: The shoot boss (reformed redneck) sent over a baby faced (looked about 11 or 12) 14 year old orange hat (Roland @)). He asked if I was having trouble. I said it was equipment issues. He then asked to borrow my rifle. I said sure. He then got himself down in prone and put a five (5) round group in the size of a dime or smaller :~. I had a very sudden respect for Appleseed and Roland. In my mind was going "ok I'm going to shut-up now and pay attention" ::). The rifleman patch took me 3 Appleseed events. And have been back at least 6-8 times since then.

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Quote from: Border-Run on August 05, 2013, 09:41:42 PM
That is about what they had to do to me. At one time I used to shoot standing unsupported Silhouette. I thought an Appleseed rifleman patch would be EASY. Well prone was getting the best of me. :sos: The shoot boss (reformed redneck) sent over a baby faced (looked about 11 or 12) 14 year old orange hat (Roland @)). He asked if I was having trouble. I said it was equipment issues. He then asked to borrow my rifle. I said sure. He then got himself down in prone and put a five (5) round group in the size of a dime or smaller :~. I had a very sudden respect for Appleseed and Roland. In my mind was going "ok I'm going to shut-up now and pay attention" ::). The rifleman patch took me 3 Appleseed events. And have been back at least 6-8 times since then.

You should see this with a girl who looks 10.  >:D
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Eddie

For me part of the fun of instructing is trying to discover the way to make each shooter want to learn.

We recently had a young man who was very resistant to instruction.  He hadn't done much shooting before and insisted that he was unable to get into the positions or use the sling.  He asked if he could just shoot without using the positions.  We said "fine, so long as you follow the safety rules and line commands".  We worked with the other shooters while the kid just made noise and wasted ammo.  After a number of walks down and back to check targets he said "I can't hit anything".  I just smiled and explained that he was not able to hit the targets because he wasn't trying to learn what we were teaching.  After that he followed along fairly well for the rest of the weekend.  The key to him was that he hadn't done enough shooting to get past the initial thrill of making a rifle go boom.  Once he had done that enough he became interested in making it hit a target and began to accept some instruction.

Sometimes an older shooter who is set in his ways can be one of the most challenging puzzles to solve.  They already want to hit the target, but they don't want to receive the instruction because it involves admitting that someone knows something they don't . 
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QuoteSometimes an older shooter who is set in his ways can be one of the most challenging puzzles to solve.  They already want to hit the target, but they don't want to receive the instruction because it involves admitting that someone knows something they don't .

And the only way they accept instruction is when they gain enough humility by being out shot by a kid or a woman. Then they may only accept instruction surreptitiously and slowly.
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Hop

In for the AAR on this one.  And remember...

:pics:

slim

I'm bringing my clippers to Richmond.

How about a little wager? You outshoot him and he gets a free haircut!  -:)

AAOptics

Keep those clippers away from me, I have to much to lose ;D

Rayne

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Rayne

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George Hacker

Excellent shooting, Rayne.  Happiness is a cleared redcoat.

Glad you and your husband had fun together.  Thanks again for stepping up to take an orange hat.

ShadowMan
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AAOptics

If you guys do the same thing next time I think Ill let savanna shoot saturday, and go boating with him on sunday.  I was really happy you were one of the ones to win a scope, and even happier when I drew his card and saw your face.  I tried to get him to tell me what his card was and I was going to do a fake draw for the 2.5-10 PST ;D  I dont know why he wouldn't tell me what his card was.

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Brown

sorry gotta nit pick. it was horizontal stringing and draggin wood. someone would have been along pretty shortly and suggest pulling my red hat if I said dragging wood for Vertical stringing ;D

My daughter wore the Vortex shirt to school today and had a lot of kids asking where that cool shirt came from. Thanks Alan!

Quote from: Rayne on September 03, 2013, 02:41:04 AM
For those of you who were interested in how the hubby did, look for yourselves.  Our Saturday morning Red Coats are almost identical.  In my defense, I always shoot my headshot first and I had my leg laying across his because I was in my normal cant to the target and he wasn't.  Just as I squeezed the shot off, he moved his legs to get in a better position.  Hence the headshot miss.   :(   I got it on Sunday, when he wasn't there.  I'm not sure if I mentioned it before, but he only signed up for Saturday and then fished Brookville Lake on Sunday.  He fishes, I shoot and we raise bacon.  We won't be going hungry. 



It wasn't as entertaining as I had thought.  The heat really took the playfulness out of the day.  When Brown told him his vertical stringing was caused from dragging wood he rolled his eyes at me and said "I've heard that before".  He did have a good time, and was a real trooper.  His back was really bothering him before noon and he had to frequently roll over onto his back from the prone position and lay there for a minute.  He never complained and never wanted to quit. 

He gave up fishing time in the morning on Sunday to stick around to see me get my orange hat and was back in time to see me shoot Barbie's Garand offhand.  In fact our host Alan, told him he better wait until I put the Garand down before he made his presence known, cause his card was drawn for a free scope and he wasn't there to claim it, so it went to the next guy.   &) 

In all fairness, it was right he didn't get it and I was fortunate to be drawn for the first scope being given away on Saturday.   It wouldn't have felt right walking away with two scopes. 

The benediction seem exceptionally done at this event and he was present to hear that too, which he was glad.  This was the first time we have both gotten away from the farm for some us time in a long time.  We both got to do something we liked and spend time with each other.  What more could a couple ask for?
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AAOptics

Very cool.  Im going to throw business cards in your scope box.  I need all the help I can get ;D

Quote from: Rayne on September 03, 2013, 12:05:27 PM
Quote from: 42769vette on September 03, 2013, 10:29:09 AM
If you guys do the same thing next time I think Ill let savanna shoot saturday, and go boating with him on sunday.  I was really happy you were one of the ones to win a scope, and even happier when I drew his card and saw your face.  I tried to get him to tell me what his card was and I was going to do a fake draw for the 2.5-10 PST ;D  I dont know why he wouldn't tell me what his card was.

You know that could have backfired, cause he was there at the benediction when the PST was given away.  What were the chances that we would have both been drawn for a scope.  That's crazy.  I just couldn't believe it.  Who would have thought.  My reaction was a knee jerk reaction cause I wasn't really paying attention when you called the card, then it hit me what you said. 

Like I said before, I'm very happy with what I won, and  two would have just been greedy, we would have given one of them back to be given to someone else. 

Oh by the way, how do you like the avatar?  Wore my new shirt when I hauled grain into the elevator this morning and got comments about it.  Had to tell them about the seed and Vortex sponsoring it.  Got a bunch of  O0 from the guys there.

AAOptics

Quote from: Brown on September 03, 2013, 07:27:02 PM


My daughter wore the Vortex shirt to school today and had a lot of kids asking where that cool shirt came from. Thanks Alan!



In a school fairly close to here (somewhere in Ohio) a kid got made to change shirts because his shirt had the 2nd amendment, and a pic of 2 rifles crossed above it.  I feel sorry for the first person to tell my daughter to change shirts because of that.

George Hacker

Quote from: 42769vette on September 03, 2013, 07:35:48 PM
Quote from: Brown on September 03, 2013, 07:27:02 PM


My daughter wore the Vortex shirt to school today and had a lot of kids asking where that cool shirt came from. Thanks Alan!



In a school fairly close to here (somewhere in Ohio) a kid got made to change shirts because his shirt had the 2nd amendment, and a pic of 2 rifles crossed above it.  I feel sorry for the first person to tell my daughter to change shirts because of that.

Sad to say, but it would be a very valuable lesson for her.  Would make for an interesting class discussion the next time "freedom" and "liberty" is discussed in social studies, assuming that's still in the curriculum.
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Rayne

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