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30 spots available, 30 spots preregistered.  25 of those are preregistered for both days.  Cool!

The Editor

I am one of the lucky people who attended this shoot.  Is it just my imagination, or are Appleseeders some of the nicest people in the world?  We had a great time!  Thanks again to the Holland family for letting us use their farm and for being such wonderful hosts and participants.  Thanks to Guns Save Lives for feeding us.  It was a very enjoyable weekend.  While I have only been to four Appleseed shoots, this is one of my favorite locations.  I can't say enough good things about the weekend.  The shooting was great, the history was great, and the people were great!  I will post the pictures I took when I figure out how to do it.  They don't show any shooting because I was busy during those times.  These are "down times" - lunch, history lessons, and awarding of rifleman( Sorry I didn't get all of them) and young Riflemen badges.

Yes, it was a great weekend.

We had what, six new Riflemen?

Great bunch of shooters and the hosts were, as they always are, super wonderful people.

And yes, it was Guns Save Life's pleasure to sponsor the event.  (Guns Save Lives is out of Ohio.)

John

Pictures.

Thanks to the Holland's for a place to shoot, to Guns Save Lives for the grub and to all of those working the line for lessons in shooting, life and history. 

Here are some more of the pictures taken by AK.  I will try to post the rest.

Here are more.

The rest.

It is true - you meet the nicest people at Appleseed!  Big thanks to the instructors for giving up their couch for the weekend.  Gopher Boy and crew - The Editor, George63, Shooter30-06 and Patriot Gal & Castle Mountain - great job! 

Our range provider the Holland family, wow, you guys rock!  Folks - these hard working hosts even sprayed the range for bugs both mornings.

With lunch provided by GunsSaveLife.com both days, seems like all we had to do was show up, learn, shoot, learn, shoot, enjoy history never taught in school, drink from the firehose, shoot . . . well you know.

Deacon - next time I meet you on the trail I expect your name tag to read, "Hi Boy".

Roland

Great pics    Looks like Gopher Boy and crew took care of you shooters.  Covered firing lines, food prepared, etc.  Sheesh!  That's gonna be a tough act to follow for the next shoot there 

Seriously, looks like everyone was having a ball learning history and doing a little shooting.  Two things our Forefathers would be proud to see  in todays world. 

Nice job by all involved.....Shooters and instructors

EEL

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George,

The homemade zucchini cake, brownies and fried catfish chunks were hard to beat, but if you are making Cinnamon rolls - I'm definitely coming!

Eric

Sorry about being so late in posting; darn work getting in the way of Appleseeding. 

This Appleseed could have been called the "Holland Family Appleseed".  On Saturday, 7 of the 30 shooters were Hollands, sons in law, or other assorted relatives.  Also in the background were the Holland "support staff", including (but not limited to) Bob and Barb, the landowners, as well as Barb's mother and two aunts, two brothers in law, and one very young granddaughter.  The support staff fogged the range area Friday night, Saturday morning, and Sunday morning to keep the bugs down; did the cooking of the food provided by GunsSaveLife.com, and added some of their own delicious food, as referenced above.  THANKS to all the Hollands, and especially Barb and Bob, for their hospitality! 

This Appleseed could also have been called "The 10-22 Appleseed" as on Saturday, with 30 shooters, I counted twenty-two Ruger 10-22's in various configurations.  We only had two tube-feds, so those shooting tubers received individual instruction on safe rifle, rather than try to make 28 others without tubers listen to the explanation. 

This could also have been called "The 100 percent Appleseed" because (I'm pretty sure, got to check the sign in sheets) that EVERYONE who pre-registered showed up on Saturday.  Not only that, but of the 25 who pre-registered for both days, 24 of them showed up on Sunday. 

This could also have been called "The North Bridge Water Appleseed" .  3 of our first 4 Riflemen, and 4 out of 5 total, got their patches, and a healthy dose of "North Bridge Water", by scoring exactly 210 on the AQT.  It helped that it was nice and warm, and none objected to the cooling proverbial sacred waters of the North Bridge. 

Thanks to everyone who showed up, helped, and made this Appleseed a roaring success!

The Editor

Shooters, instructors, hosts, everyone!

Saturday Riflemen, with host Bob in center

Just wanted to thank everyone who made it a fantastic weekend, and especially The Editor, without whom the wheels never would have turned in the first place.  My expectations were surpassed and I'm proud to finally join the Appleseed ranks.  Now on to improving that marksmanship...   

Bonnie

Bonnie, seeing as how the entire Holland family seemed to be an expert or close to it, I would predict that you will be able to join Morgan's Rifleman any day now!  It was very nice to meet you and your family.  Take care of that ferocious dog that was out there threatening us.

Could someone point me to details on zeroing a .223.  I thought I had a handle on it when TE and GB went over it on the whiteboard, but now I'm all messed up.  I thought that the magic numbers were 2 - 2 - 3, meaning that you would drop 2" from 100 yds to 200 yrds, drop another 2" out to 300 and another 3" out to 400.  Why can't I find any trajectory charts that back that up? 

This thread (http://appleseedinfo.org/smf/index.php?topic=15392.0) has a chart showing a zero at 25 yrds that's 10" high at 200 and doesn't cross over again until around 365 yrds. 

The 50 yrd zero seems to match up with the 223 link (http://www.shootingtimes.com/ballistics/223_remington.html) where a 55 gr will be slightly high a 100 yds, but will be 24" low by the time it gets to 400 yds. 

I understand (through my vast Google research) that the .223 Remington is different than the 5.56x45, but the trajectories seem close.  If not, I'm interested in the .223 Remington.

Please be sure to keep any answers at a kindergarten level (use crayons if you have to). 

Thanks.

Go with 3,3,3,4

...but that is in Minutes of Angle, not inches!

3moa 100-200 yds
3moa 200-300 yds
4moa 300-400 yds
4moa 400-500 yds

That'll get you in the black

JJ,
That's why the AR is so darn hard to put solid numbers out for    Soooo many variants.

Carry handle or flat top w/ handle?

14.5" barrel (military), 16", 18" or 20"

55gr or 62?

1x9 twist or 1x7?

Standard handguards or free floated?

Muzzle velocity of YOUR rounds?

Shooting on Tuesday or Wednesday?

OK, that last one you can forget 

If fixed handle, set rear wheel to 8/3 plus 1 click.  If detachable, set at 6/3 plus 2.  Then adjust you 25m zero with the front post.  That should put the rear dial numbers close to matching the range.

What all here are trying to say is...YOU need to check your rifle with the ammo YOU shoot out of it.  You can read all the charts you want, they will only get you close.  Then you fine tune with IMC.  (You DO remember that from your 'seed, right?)

Get to a Boot Camp where you can spend some time shooting distance.

2-2-3-4......OR......3-3-4-4?     Only YOUR rifle knows....until you ask it 

EEL

Chainsaw - thanks for keeping it at the kindergarten level.  Once I switched to MOA, the numbers started to make sense. 

EEL - I'll be printing your instructions for the day when I actually own an AR.  For now, I'll continue my search for aperture sights for my CZ Carbine and then work with my gun and ammo to take the 400 yd shot. 

Thanks