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ADAPTIVE pistol techniques

Started by rambo granny, July 17, 2022, 03:23:01 PM

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rambo granny

To avoid confusion, we are separating the ADAPTIVE pistol and Adaptive AQT techniques which is rifle stuff. Bbq_bandit is at a pistol event this weekend and will be sharing  some good stuff here a bit later.

Us adaptives working to share ADAPTIVE techniques and insights to help both students and instructors would very much appreciate you checking out the latest posts on the ADAPTIVE AQT techniques thread. Your input is important as this is an attempt to organize info to help you search
See Reply # 49
https://appleseedinfo.org/smf/index.php?topic=62914.msg402193;topicseen#msg402193
RBC @ IDMR 02/17, requal KD May 2017 @IDMR 49/50,
RBC IDMR 1/18: requal KD, Shingle shot & 2 MOA steel shot @ 300,
RBC IDMR 1/19: requal KD;  >100 events; Post accident>Adaptive 4 min AQT scored 5/1/22
This info block too small for ancient instructors.😉


The IMPOSSIBLE is Not always impossible when an IAO (improvise, adapt, & overcome) is applied! Add focus, creativity and stubborn to win!

Quote from a very wise man, our own amazing Scuzzy:
"Pray. But eventually you're going to have to pick up a rock." - David

BBQ_Bandit

#1

Key Words:
*Adaptive Shooting Aids
*IAO
*Limited use Hand
*Stroke



Appleseed Pistol Clinic
Annapolis, MD
July 16/17, 2022

Subject: Adaptive Appleseed - limited use of one hand.
Pistol: Smith & Wesson Victory (SW22) with aftermarket parts + red dot

As of this writing - the course of fire is defined:

Stage 1 - 1 target (10 shots in 10 seconds/1 mag of 10 rounds)
Stage 2 - 2 targets (2 mags/loaded 6 and 4) 15 seconds
(Alternating pairs on alternating targets with mag change)
Stage 3 - 1 target (5 shots - 15 seconds/left hand only)
Stage 4 - 1 target (5 shots - 15 seconds/right hand only)
Stage 5 - 4 targets (2-2-3-3/2 minutes @2X point value)

The only points to adapt are two areas: limited to one hand and the brace on my right hand -  which has a secured high strength magnet on the backside of the fist. Once the pistol has the mag ejected... I turn the pistol to a horizontal position with the muzzle still pointing downrange in a safe direction and place the steel portion of the slide secured onto the magnet. 



In this orientation - the position mimics the same oriention as a right-handed shooter with access to the magwell "in the shooter's workspace" - inserting from the left side into the magwell. Once the magazine is reseated into the pistol; I re-acquire a good pistol grip with my left hand, pivot, and lift the pistol off the magnetic brace back to a normal vertical alignment and drop the slide/bolt release with my trigger finger since its already out of the trigger guard before I re-aquire the target.

First PQT - Sunday morning (no warm up)

CLEAN

Part 1


Part 2


227/250

Was somewhat surprised did not score all hits on that stage #4 ...  4 hits on second target. Oh well.

Full disclaimer: have been shooting with a local Bullseye pistol league for a number of years; thousands of rounds live fire, refining the process within firing the shot with an airsoft pistol, and dry fire practice.

Practice does pay off when there is a concentrated focus... a common aspect to adaptives!  :~ :~ :~
First Appleseed/Cleaned Redcoat 6/13-14/2020
Second Appleseed 7/3-4/2020 (208/250)
Third Appleseed 8/15-16/2020
Blue Hat, Orange Hat, and 222/250

Appleseed Pistol Clinic 
[233/250] Slippery Rock,  PA 5/22-23/2021
[227/250] Annapolis, MD 7/16-17/2022
[233/250] Thurmont, MD 5/20-21/2023

JustKim

ACCEPT YOUR WOBBLE!

It's not about perfection -- it's about progress!!

I LOVE this stuff!

"Perhaps you and I have lived with this miracle too long to be properly appreciative. Freedom is a fragile thing and is never more than one generation away from extinction. It is not ours by inheritance; it must be fought for and defended constantly by each generation, for it comes only once to a people. Those who have known freedom and then lost it have never known it again."  Ronald Reagan

rambo granny

Yeah… he was high score for weekend. True inspiration.
RBC @ IDMR 02/17, requal KD May 2017 @IDMR 49/50,
RBC IDMR 1/18: requal KD, Shingle shot & 2 MOA steel shot @ 300,
RBC IDMR 1/19: requal KD;  >100 events; Post accident>Adaptive 4 min AQT scored 5/1/22
This info block too small for ancient instructors.😉


The IMPOSSIBLE is Not always impossible when an IAO (improvise, adapt, & overcome) is applied! Add focus, creativity and stubborn to win!

Quote from a very wise man, our own amazing Scuzzy:
"Pray. But eventually you're going to have to pick up a rock." - David

BBQ_Bandit

#4

Key Words:
*Adaptive Shooting Aids
*IAO
*Limited use Hand
*Stroke


Update  - May 20/21, 2023
Appleseed Pistol Clinic
Thurmont ,  MD

First - the images.







First Redcoat  Saturday morning: 1911 45 ACP
First Redcoat Sunday morning: SW22 22LR

First PQT Sunday - 233/250
All shot with my primary (left) hand.

Never said I was the sharpest knife in the drawer... however noticed the similarities in size between the Redcoats and the PQT targets...



Hmmm. Is it possible to shoot the PQT with a 1911 (45 ACP) one handed?

Challenge accepted
First Appleseed/Cleaned Redcoat 6/13-14/2020
Second Appleseed 7/3-4/2020 (208/250)
Third Appleseed 8/15-16/2020
Blue Hat, Orange Hat, and 222/250

Appleseed Pistol Clinic 
[233/250] Slippery Rock,  PA 5/22-23/2021
[227/250] Annapolis, MD 7/16-17/2022
[233/250] Thurmont, MD 5/20-21/2023

9mm4545

The American Constitution is remarkable for its simplicity; but can only suffice a people habitually correct in their actions, and would be utterly inadequate to the wants of a different nation.  Change the domestic habits of the Americans, their religious devotion, and their high respect for morality, and it will not be necessary to change a single letter in the Constitution in order to vary the whole form of their government. - Francis Grund 1837

BBQ_Bandit

#6
Thank you sir!

It dawned on me some time ago...

Shooting precise shots one handed... eliminates half the variables and problems (using two hands). So let's simplify that equation. Once the Index, NPOA, Stance, Steady Hold Factors, and the Six steps firing the shot is reconsidered... become a focused process of "rinse and repeat".
First Appleseed/Cleaned Redcoat 6/13-14/2020
Second Appleseed 7/3-4/2020 (208/250)
Third Appleseed 8/15-16/2020
Blue Hat, Orange Hat, and 222/250

Appleseed Pistol Clinic 
[233/250] Slippery Rock,  PA 5/22-23/2021
[227/250] Annapolis, MD 7/16-17/2022
[233/250] Thurmont, MD 5/20-21/2023

rambo granny

#7
Thanks for sharing the update. Inspiring how you actually managed to do this despite physical challenges!
Finding bits of humor in the face of adversity is a powerful technique to relieve the mind and open the door to creative solutions outside the confining box
RBC @ IDMR 02/17, requal KD May 2017 @IDMR 49/50,
RBC IDMR 1/18: requal KD, Shingle shot & 2 MOA steel shot @ 300,
RBC IDMR 1/19: requal KD;  >100 events; Post accident>Adaptive 4 min AQT scored 5/1/22
This info block too small for ancient instructors.😉


The IMPOSSIBLE is Not always impossible when an IAO (improvise, adapt, & overcome) is applied! Add focus, creativity and stubborn to win!

Quote from a very wise man, our own amazing Scuzzy:
"Pray. But eventually you're going to have to pick up a rock." - David

BBQ_Bandit

#8
A true story at that clinic.... with a splash of dark humor.

One of the shooter's was appreciating the targets I had shot one handed and asked me, "What would it cost (her) to shoot that way?"

With a twinkle in my eye and a wink, "It cost me an arm and a leg."

She appreciated the humor too...
First Appleseed/Cleaned Redcoat 6/13-14/2020
Second Appleseed 7/3-4/2020 (208/250)
Third Appleseed 8/15-16/2020
Blue Hat, Orange Hat, and 222/250

Appleseed Pistol Clinic 
[233/250] Slippery Rock,  PA 5/22-23/2021
[227/250] Annapolis, MD 7/16-17/2022
[233/250] Thurmont, MD 5/20-21/2023

rambo granny

#9
Bob aka BBQ_Bandit shared this truly amazing video of NO hands pistol shooter. NEVER underestimate a determined adaptive student or instructor!
https://youtube.com/shorts/M2UvmfsiCR4?feature=share
RBC @ IDMR 02/17, requal KD May 2017 @IDMR 49/50,
RBC IDMR 1/18: requal KD, Shingle shot & 2 MOA steel shot @ 300,
RBC IDMR 1/19: requal KD;  >100 events; Post accident>Adaptive 4 min AQT scored 5/1/22
This info block too small for ancient instructors.😉


The IMPOSSIBLE is Not always impossible when an IAO (improvise, adapt, & overcome) is applied! Add focus, creativity and stubborn to win!

Quote from a very wise man, our own amazing Scuzzy:
"Pray. But eventually you're going to have to pick up a rock." - David

rambo granny

#10
Never underestimate an adaptive! This is quite inspiring.
An October clinic PQT fired completely all ONE handed and this was first time trying it with a 45 caliber, 1911  using iron sights. Can you say black on black? 6 o'clock hold! BBQ_Bandit set a higher bar challenge and did some nice work. Look forward to seeing next time. Good show brother Appleseeder!
Cool pictures include targets plus a 1911 adapted for his conditions.
RBC @ IDMR 02/17, requal KD May 2017 @IDMR 49/50,
RBC IDMR 1/18: requal KD, Shingle shot & 2 MOA steel shot @ 300,
RBC IDMR 1/19: requal KD;  >100 events; Post accident>Adaptive 4 min AQT scored 5/1/22
This info block too small for ancient instructors.😉


The IMPOSSIBLE is Not always impossible when an IAO (improvise, adapt, & overcome) is applied! Add focus, creativity and stubborn to win!

Quote from a very wise man, our own amazing Scuzzy:
"Pray. But eventually you're going to have to pick up a rock." - David

BBQ_Bandit

Thank you RG!

It's still a work in progress... scored 181/250.
Time to upgrade to fiber optics sights.

Stay tuned

First Appleseed/Cleaned Redcoat 6/13-14/2020
Second Appleseed 7/3-4/2020 (208/250)
Third Appleseed 8/15-16/2020
Blue Hat, Orange Hat, and 222/250

Appleseed Pistol Clinic 
[233/250] Slippery Rock,  PA 5/22-23/2021
[227/250] Annapolis, MD 7/16-17/2022
[233/250] Thurmont, MD 5/20-21/2023