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Offline Fynn

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Rimfire KD?
« on: November 13, 2018, 08:19:17 PM »
Hello,

I was wondering if there is something like KD for rimfire? 25, 50, 75, 100, 200? Would be an awesome introduction to come-ups, wind, etc...

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Re: Rimfire KD?
« Reply #1 on: November 13, 2018, 09:05:40 PM »
They do them in MD every so often.

We just did a 100yd 22lr KD in VA a little while back as well.

Can't speak to NC, though.

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Re: Rimfire KD?
« Reply #2 on: November 13, 2018, 09:41:26 PM »
OHIO has one coming up at the end of the year. PA does them occasionally.

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Re: Rimfire KD?
« Reply #3 on: November 16, 2018, 04:38:15 PM »
We shot one in Maryland, firing at 50, 100, 150, 200-yards, half of the full distances. In Maryland getting a full-distance range for centerfire is difficult. Shooting rimfire at range seems like a good way to get the experience. Some people might need a 20-MOA base to get enough adjustment for POI=POA at 200 yards (in the range of 25-27 MOA up from a 50 yard zero).

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Re: Rimfire KD?
« Reply #4 on: November 17, 2018, 03:50:03 PM »
I've done it several times. with a 25M, a 22LR will drop about 4" at 100 yards. With a 100 yard zero, it will drop another 36" at 200 yards.
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Re: Rimfire KD?
« Reply #5 on: November 17, 2018, 07:30:30 PM »
I wrote a 200 yd course up here in PA over a few seasons. Used a 150yd zero-first got 25 yd zero then went up 13 Moa for zero at 150 yds.   This is the material-I have the AAR and course material link. Hope this helps.

Here’s a link to the course material (see bottom of aar link) https://appleseedinfo.org/smf/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=52872.0;attach=150514

Here is the AAR-there are .22lr skeptics but everyone who took the course liked it. https://appleseedinfo.org/smf/index.php?topic=52872.msg352739#msg352739
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Re: Rimfire KD?
« Reply #6 on: November 18, 2018, 02:31:22 PM »
Here is the AAR-there are .22lr skeptics but everyone who took the course liked it. https://appleseedinfo.org/smf/index.php?topic=52872.msg352739#msg352739

This looks very cool indeed; thank you for sharing :)

Unfortunately, I have run into several "skeptics" lately, all trying to tell me that accuracy and acuity with .22LR "does not reflect in any way the competency of a shooter".

To me it is somewhat like comparing apples to oranges and both have their merits and value. The truth is that comparing the two and making harsh judgements and generalizations only serves to divide people in an already divided society. And I strongly believe that this sort of divisiveness in the community most definitely will not attract new folks to the pursuit of becoming a rifleman.

Wow, I guess I was more triggered that I thought; sorry to ramble. Thanks again, I really appreciate the responses to this thread :F

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Re: Rimfire KD?
« Reply #7 on: November 18, 2018, 11:16:46 PM »
It’s ok. Everything is ok.

See you on the range. Bring your .22
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Re: Rimfire KD?
« Reply #8 on: November 19, 2018, 02:37:08 PM »
It’s ok. Everything is ok.
See you on the range. Bring your .22

Now THAT is what I call a HARD hold :bow:

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Re: Rimfire KD?
« Reply #9 on: November 19, 2018, 04:05:43 PM »
My sole concerns with a 22 is the lack of recoil, report and range. I always advise students to see a 22 for what it is - a stepping stone to a CF, high velocity rifle, which is required to shoot the "Rifleman's Traditional Quarter Mile". So long as you employ all of the principles we teach at events, the 22 will get you started just fine. If you "cheat" (muscling, lack of cheek weld, firm handshake grip, etc), and these cheats become muscle memory, they will have to be unlearned when you transition to a CF rifle.

I bought 22s for loaners - no personal interest. The first time I shot an AQT with one of my loaners, I was mortified at the difference.

In my experience, it's simply important for us as instructors, whose goal is rebuilding America back into a nation of rifleman, to make certain teh students understand that the 22 is a tool for learning marksmanship, in prep for moving to a CF rifle - in the storied tradition of the American Rifleman!

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Re: Rimfire KD?
« Reply #10 on: November 19, 2018, 05:50:36 PM »
One thing is for sure, I would never be able to afford even a fraction of the CF ammo I have already put down range practicing with my .22  :)

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Re: Rimfire KD?
« Reply #11 on: November 20, 2018, 10:41:24 AM »
exactly
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Re: Rimfire KD?
« Reply #12 on: November 20, 2018, 01:04:39 PM »
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Re: Rimfire KD?
« Reply #13 on: November 21, 2018, 09:03:11 AM »
Is that a laden Schnauzer or an unladen Schnauzer? >:D

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Re: Rimfire KD?
« Reply #14 on: November 21, 2018, 09:45:36 AM »
  :snipersmi
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