Marlin 795

[Robbvious]

Any ideas on how to improve/extend that mag-release?

I haven't really noticed any issues with the mag release over the course of a thousand or so rounds, I just move my trigger finger, pull up and back and they drop right out.

I have noticed that the bolt doesn't always lock to the rear after the last round, and I'm not quite sure what might be causing that.  Any ideas?

[SamD]

I have noticed that the bolt doesn't always lock to the rear after the last round, and I'm not quite sure what might be causing that.  Any ideas?

With all mags or just 1?

Sam

[Robbvious]

Good question.  I don't know for sure.  I have 5 mags and just grab one as needed.  I think you might have hit on something, though.  I'll have to check it out.

[SamD]

As a smith I'll the first thing I check on something like that is the magazines.
Then work my way back from there.

Sam

[red headed stranger]

Has anyone had any experience with these magazines? 

http://www.sportsmansguide.com/net/cb/national-magazine-15-rd-marlin-mag.aspx?a=359221

[RIjake]

Has anyone had any experience with these magazines? 

http://www.sportsmansguide.com/net/cb/national-magazine-15-rd-marlin-mag.aspx?a=359221

Not personally, but there's a few threads over at rimfirecentral where guys claim they suck.

Like I said though, can't vouch for that. 

[Robbvious]

Has anyone had any experience with these magazines? 

http://www.sportsmansguide.com/net/cb/national-magazine-15-rd-marlin-mag.aspx?a=359221

Yes.  I bought 4, and returned them the next day.  Absolute garbage.  Avoid at all costs.


Sam, thanks for the tip, I'll check it out.
If you don't mind, how do I go about lightening the trigger pull?

[AFTERMATH]

15 rimmed cartridges in a stick mag is just begging for trouble.

[SamD]

Begin by POLISHING all friction surfaces with 800 grit or finer.
Then POLISH the engagement surface of the sear with a piece of brown paper bag wrapped on a popsicle stick.
Yes the brown paper is abrasive, but very fine like say 1800 grit.  Then lube lightly and put it back together.
If that isn't enough, I'll make you a drawing for the next step, if you dare 

[Robbvious]

15 rimmed cartridges in a stick mag is just begging for trouble.

It's not even that.  The mags will not even fit into the rifle.  I suppose you could spend a bunch of time and effort sanding and fiddling, but they're really not worth it.  Not only that, but the followers don't fit properly into the mag, and loading them with only 9 rounds was futile, they were bound up tight with 8 rounds.  All of them.  Junk.

Begin by POLISHING all friction surfaces with 800 grit or finer.
Then POLISH the engagement surface of the sear with a piece of brown paper bag wrapped on a popsicle stick.
Yes the brown paper is abrasive, but very fine like say 1800 grit.  Then lube lightly and put it back together.
If that isn't enough, I'll make you a drawing for the next step, if you dare 

Thank you, Sir!  The trigger is pretty good to begin with, but I just want to make it that "n^th" better.  The stock trigger is better than my lovely bride's 10/22 trigger after I added a bunch of high dollar parts to the Ruger.

It's also worth noting that I shot Rifleman with this fine system on my very first day of Appleseeding.  I highly recommend this rifle!

[Robbvious]

Oh, and BTW, the little rifle has put countless squirrels and more than a few cottontails into the stew pot.  Yumm!

[fredfunder]

The gun needs medal trigger guard and a extended mag release and you could improve a good gun and make it a grate gun.
   I am thanking of trying to add some lead (1/2" to an inch ) to the inside the bottom of a 10 round mag to help gravity do it's thing and I thank the extra force on the mag spring will help insure that the bolt locks back too.

Thanks, Fredfunder

[SamD]

The gun needs medal trigger guard

It doesn't need a "medal" trigger guard. You would like a metal one. The plastic works just fine. It holds the safety mechanism perfectly, keeps crap from inadvertently engaging the trigger and provides a pivot point for the trigger.

and a extended mag release and you could improve a good gun

The magazine release is easy to reach and releases the magazine.  You would like a different one.

and make it a grate gun.

Never seen a grate gun, seen several great guns and the 795 is one  and does good without mods 

Here is the thing:
everyone would like to personalize their rifle to some degree.  The only advantage the 10-22 seems to have in this regard is that many many different companies make a multitude of gewgaws and whimmiediddles that can be strapped on to it to attempt to make up for it's shortcomings.

Personally I like it pretty much just the way it is.

Now we need to go talk "software" like the rifle control unit MK1, Device, Human Interface, U/I ea. 1

[staplegund]

Sam,
I was considering making some dry-fire dummy rds.  Is that even needed, or just nice to have?  I'm concerned the firing pin/chamber might get messed up from contacting the rim of the chamber; should I be?

[Robbvious]

Now we need to go talk "software" like the rifle control unit MK1, Device, Human Interface, U/I ea. 1

Along with a properly aligned I-Ball Mk.1 Optic System....


One other thing I've noticed; over tightening the trigger group can cause the the bolt release to become non-functional.  So, just tight is tight enough.

[SamD]

Hi Staplegund,
You don't need a dummy.
The Marlin Firing pin is made at the proper length to allow dry firing.
The mag safety gets in the way a bit but just throw one in and use the bolt release.

The seem to perform best just like a bolt gun Robbvious, snug the front nicely, about 2 grrs and then have a 3 year old granddaughter tighten the rear much as she can with 1 hand. 

[Rhodes]

The only time I use snap caps is when Im working on the rifle and need to test the action like after replacing that recoil pad. Still cringe any time I dry fire a rim fire rifle old habits die hard.

795 is a great 22 just wish magazines were easier to find only have 1 ten and 2 seven rounders at the time but looking for more. Any one using the tech-sights on this rifle yet? Have a set ordered so kind of impatient to see how it works.

[AFTERMATH]

I can find mags easily at Gander MT. or Mills Fleetfarm.  But I'm not sure how well they're spread throughout the country.

[SamD]

I have found them at everywhere from Big5 to Wally World.
Right now they are in short supply but they keep showing up here and there.

I have the Tech Sights on mine and I'm happy with them.   Did make a taller front post but other than that they have been great.  If it feels abit light for you pour some melted lead in a chunk of 1/2 EMT, cut to 2.4" when cool and put inside the forend. Makes a big difference.

Sam

[fredfunder]

The gun needs medal trigger guard

It doesn't need a "medal" trigger guard. You would like a metal one. The plastic works just fine. It holds the safety mechanism perfectly, keeps crap from inadvertently engaging the trigger and provides a pivot point for the trigger.

Yes, I'll like a metal trigger guard.  I have a cracked plastic trigger that came on a new in the box Marlin 795 and yes Marlin made it good! But it was cracked !

and a extended mag release and you could improve a good gun
The magazine release is easy to reach and releases the magazine.  You would like a different one.

Yes, I'll like a extended mag release,  It is easy to reach but a extended mag release woud be better and quicker in my opinion 

and make it a grate gun.

Never seen a grate gun, seen several great guns and the 795 is one   and does good without mods 

Sorry, I'll use spell check next time.

Here is the thing:
everyone would like to personalize their rifle to some degree.  The only advantage the 10-22 seems to have in this regard is that many many different companies make a multitude of gewgaws and whimmiediddles that can be strapped on to it to attempt to make up for it's shortcomings.

Personally I like it pretty much just the way it is.

That is your right and your opinion. ("Opinions are like a**holes. Everybody's got one and everyone thinks everyone else's stinks.") It is a great gun but to make it better to suits me and my needs, a medal trigger guard and a extended mag release is what I'll like to see on my Marlin 795.  Thanks & Have a Great Day, Fredfunder.

[Francis Marion]

So the 795 holds the bolt open on an empty magazine,
and due to mag safety, needs to have a mag in place to dry fire.

To streamline the dry firing process,
Can you wedge a dime into an empty mag to defeat the hold open feature,
or take the mag spring out,
or place the mag partially into the rifle to engage the mag safety, but not the bolt hold open feature. 

[Sam Adams]

Recently bought 6 new magazines for the 795 directly from Marlin. Phoned 1-800-544-8892 and ordered the magazines. Received them in less than 1 week. Bought in March, I think they were about $18. each plus shipping. The 795 is a GREAT little .22. Thank you Sam D. for the recommendation. The wife and I each own them and have had zero failures , including a recent Appleseed weekend with very high winds and blowing dust. They are not ammo fussy either. My 10/22's don't get out much anymore.

[eaglescouter]

So the 795 holds the bolt open on an empty magazine,
and due to mag safety, needs to have a mag in place to dry fire.

To streamline the dry firing process,
Can you wedge a dime into an empty mag to defeat the hold open feature,
or take the mag spring out,
or place the mag partially into the rifle to engage the mag safety, but not the bolt hold open feature. 

Another alternative if your ideas do not work due to the mechanics of this rifle:  Snap Caps for .22 are available, feed thru a magazine, and prevent dry fire damage to firing pins on rifles that are subject to this type of damage.

[LavaTech]

So the 795 holds the bolt open on an empty magazine,
and due to mag safety, needs to have a mag in place to dry fire.

To streamline the dry firing process,
Can you wedge a dime into an empty mag to defeat the hold open feature,
or take the mag spring out,
or place the mag partially into the rifle to engage the mag safety, but not the bolt hold open feature. 

If you would like to entirely avoid liability and safety issues, fabricate a LavaTech Special Marlin 795 Inherently Inert Dry Firing Magazine ©; like the one pictured.









A sign stake laying around was the material donor; 15 minutes of whittling. Operates the Magazine Lever Assembly but not the bolt hold open. 

[SamD]

medal trigger guard

Sorry I can not resist
An ARCOM or an MSM

[zombiehunter]

Just picked up my Marlin LTR at Gander Mountain today.  Now to order some tech sights, spare mags, and of course, fabricate me a LavaTech Special Marlin 795 Inherently Inert Dry Firing Magazine ©! 

[ashrn03]

Just picked up my Marlin LTR at Gander Mountain today.  Now to order some tech sights, spare mags, and of course, fabricate me a LavaTech Special Marlin 795 Inherently Inert Dry Firing Magazine ©! 

The 795 I bought at Gander Mountain included a scope and mounts (package deal).  The scope (Bushnell) is fine, the mounts were not: they kept slipping on the receiver dovetail.  I messed around with them for a month then replaced them with $12 Leupold rimfire rings from Wallyworld.  No problems since. 

[zombiehunter]

Yup.  That's the one I got; the "795W" - which designates that it comes with Bushnell scope and rings.  I haven't bothered mounting the scope on it yet, but thanks for the reco on the Leupold rings.  Did you try locktite on your stock rings, or was the problem that the mounts wouldn't hold the rail tight enough?

[Devnull]

So what kind of scope would YOU want to put on a 795ltr?

I just bought one to replace my "opps I screwed up reassembling the trigger group and now you need to be thor to pull the trigger" 702 plinkster with a broken front sight blade.  My only issue so far is the sights so I figured I am going to put a scope on it and probably techsights down the road.

Suggestions?

[ashrn03]

Yup.  That's the one I got; the "795W" - which designates that it comes with Bushnell scope and rings.  I haven't bothered mounting the scope on it yet, but thanks for the reco on the Leupold rings.  Did you try locktite on your stock rings, or was the problem that the mounts wouldn't hold the rail tight enough?

The rings held the scope OK: I couldn't tighten the mounts enough to 'grab' the dovetail securely; they just kept slipping back down the receiver .  Since the 795 "package" is so common now, it's something I look for at each Appleseed.  Hint: if you set the front ring just shy of the end of the dovetail, it makes it much easier to 'eyeball' quickly to see if the whole assembly is heading back off the receiver.  The old mounts had to be tightened every 100 rounds or so: the new ones are quiet as concrete.

Devnull; my personal choice for 22 scopes are 4X, or smaller, fixed power.  The fixed power scopes are generally shorter, and permit positioning the eyepiece farther forward, than a variable.  The result is a larger scope picture.  I don't know who makes such a scope these days; most of those I have (2-1/2X or 3X Weaver, Redfield, Lyman) I've scrounged, used, from various sources.  For 25 meter shooting (when you're focusing on the crosshairs, right?  ) you don't need higher power.  However, a variable, which are much more common, will work: just set it to 3X.  The 795 in question, with the 3-9X Bushnell, is a 'loaner' with one Rifleman to it's credit  .