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Started by Duncan, February 15, 2014, 11:51:53 AM

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Duncan

February 15, 2014, 11:51:53 AM
Sorry guys if this has been answered 100 times. Searched and really didnt find anything. Any recommendations for a Garand scope mount with no permanent mods?
Thanks
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fisherdawg

#1
February 15, 2014, 07:29:31 PM
Duncan,
I have not used this one, but it sure looks interesting.  Add a Leupold long eye relief pistol scope ....
fisherdawg

http://www.amegaranges.com/product_pages/m1garand.php
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DEH

#2
February 15, 2014, 08:23:29 PM
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-2Cor10:4-5. For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal, but mighty through God to the pulling down of strong holds; Casting down imaginations and every high thing that exalts itself against the knowledge of God, & bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ.

-Eph6:12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the world forces of this moral darkness and against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.

Duncan

#3
February 15, 2014, 08:55:04 PM
Fisherdawg & DEH thanks for the links. Both of these look very promising.  O0
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devilkitty

#4
February 16, 2014, 10:12:50 AM
I know S&K builds one, and I would suspect B-Square has an offering for the Garand as well.
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douglas34474

#5
February 16, 2014, 11:21:36 AM
I own the S&K offering. Save your money. You can not get a proper eye relief with a good cheek weld with any scope I have found.

nyrasgt

#6
February 16, 2014, 11:50:21 AM
CMP USED to sell Garand scope mounts out of their annual catalog - was discontinued several years ago - still think there may be link to company making same for Garands, M1 carbines, etc...Brownells also likely.
Excelsior,
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Duncan

#7
February 16, 2014, 06:10:57 PM
Thanks guys, anybody have expierence Amega  picatinny mount. Looks pretty good.
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DEH

#8
February 16, 2014, 08:07:59 PM
I have known a couple of guys with the ultimak and they were pleased. 
-Appleseed: '08-IBC, '09-Red Hat, '09-FT Stewart, '10-RBC, '24,'26 IBC

KD '09, '10, '11, '14, '15, '16, '22, "25. RFKD '25. Pistoleer '24.

-2Cor10:4-5. For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal, but mighty through God to the pulling down of strong holds; Casting down imaginations and every high thing that exalts itself against the knowledge of God, & bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ.

-Eph6:12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the world forces of this moral darkness and against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.

draken

#9
February 16, 2014, 09:06:50 PM
I don't own any of them yet but I've been doing some research (soon, I will have to scope my Garand as well) and it seems that the ultimak sits lower in relation with the bore axis and, most likely, is the one I'll get.
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BD

#10
February 17, 2014, 01:58:16 PM
I have a scout style rail on mine.  I bought it from Fulton Armory, but I think it's a rebranded Ultimak
http://www.fulton-armory.com/handguardrearsuperscoutrail.aspx

The rail replaces the upper handguard and you can always swap the wood back on.
(Don't plan on doing it often, as those upper handguards are rather thin and will break eventually - be careful)

It is easy to install and rock solid.  I set it up so the back end of the scope is just in front of the opening on the receiver where the clip goes.
Make sure you measure your eye relief to that spot before buying a scout style scope.
Many of them are designed for pistols and the eye relief is set up for being at arm's length, not the 8"-10" that the rifle would be.

Up the Republic

henschman

#11
February 17, 2014, 03:32:02 PM
Yep, the Ultimak is the lowest you can get.  That is a big advantage... you don't want to have to build up your comb to get cheek weld.  The Ultimak is low enough that you can actually co-witness a low mounted red dot sight like an Aimpoint with the factory irons. 
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DEH

#12
February 17, 2014, 04:36:34 PM
Quote from: BD on February 17, 2014, 01:58:16 PM
I have a scout style rail on mine.  I bought it from Fulton Armory, but I think it's a rebranded Ultimak
http://www.fulton-armory.com/handguardrearsuperscoutrail.aspx

The rail replaces the upper handguard and you can always swap the wood back on.
(Don't plan on doing it often, as those upper handguards are rather thin and will break eventually - be careful)

It is easy to install and rock solid.  I set it up so the back end of the scope is just in front of the opening on the receiver where the clip goes.
Make sure you measure your eye relief to that spot before buying a scout style scope.
Many of them are designed for pistols and the eye relief is set up for being at arm's length, not the 8"-10" that the rifle would be.



If you were to put a low mount red dot on it, would it co-witness?

If you were to put a low mount red dot on it, would it co-witness?
-Appleseed: '08-IBC, '09-Red Hat, '09-FT Stewart, '10-RBC, '24,'26 IBC

KD '09, '10, '11, '14, '15, '16, '22, "25. RFKD '25. Pistoleer '24.

-2Cor10:4-5. For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal, but mighty through God to the pulling down of strong holds; Casting down imaginations and every high thing that exalts itself against the knowledge of God, & bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ.

-Eph6:12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the world forces of this moral darkness and against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.

PHenry

#13
February 17, 2014, 05:06:26 PM
I know DrJohn uses a "scout mount" style to great effect with a leupold pistol scope (I think). Perhaps a PM to the good doctor. He's a senior instructor and a fine shot with a Garand.
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Duncan

#14
February 17, 2014, 06:14:51 PM
After some research I went with the UltiMAK rail, Burris handgun scope & Leupold QRW rings. The UltiMAK is a little more pricey but looks to be a better design than the Amega.  Thanks All.
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DEH

#15
February 17, 2014, 06:30:59 PM
I am planning to put an RMR on my other M14 so this is why I am looking.  I've known at least two Instructors who had the Ultimak on their Garands, but they both had scopes on them.  Dr. John was one of them.

BTW:  From what I can tell the Fulton Armory is rebranded Amega.
-Appleseed: '08-IBC, '09-Red Hat, '09-FT Stewart, '10-RBC, '24,'26 IBC

KD '09, '10, '11, '14, '15, '16, '22, "25. RFKD '25. Pistoleer '24.

-2Cor10:4-5. For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal, but mighty through God to the pulling down of strong holds; Casting down imaginations and every high thing that exalts itself against the knowledge of God, & bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ.

-Eph6:12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the world forces of this moral darkness and against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.

Duncan

#16
February 17, 2014, 07:35:38 PM
Ya, I looked at Fulton and saw they were selling Amegas. Had to buy UltiMAK straight from factory. Nobody has any.
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JoeZ

#17
February 17, 2014, 09:24:19 PM Last Edit: February 17, 2014, 09:30:09 PM by JoeZ
Quote from: Duncan on February 17, 2014, 06:14:51 PM
After some research I went with the UltiMAK rail, Burris handgun scope & Leupold QRW rings. The UltiMAK is a little more pricey but looks to be a better design than the Amega.  Thanks All.

I did this same exact set-up (but added a synthetic stock and a Karstens cheek riser) and it works fairly well. The only draw back I find is it throws the balance of the rifle forward. The project was to get a scoped battle rifle in 30 cal with hold overs to 500 yds  and using surplus ammo and all for about $1000 bucks and in this regard the project was a success.

You can still get Greek 30-06 from the CMP for about 65 cents a round, shipped. Limit 2000 rnds/year.
http://www.thecmp.org/Sales/ammo.htm

JoeZ
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