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Ruger 10/22 Design Contest

Started by mac66, October 07, 2013, 11:30:37 PM

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mac66

In honor of the 50th anniversary of the 10/22 next year, Ruger is holding a design contest. I'm thinking that the best 10/22 they could make would be an factory made Appleseed LTR.

Check this out and then design the perfect Appleseed 10/22 for submission.

http://www.ruger.com/micros/1022_50/index.html?r=y
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Charles McKinley

I'm sending in adult lenght stock, swivel stud, Tech sights and sling.
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BeSwift

LTR design submitted including a plea for Ruger to get on the Appleseed bandwagon..
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Reddot

Quote from: BeSwift on October 08, 2013, 08:49:07 AM
LTR design submitted including a plea for Ruger to get on the Appleseed bandwagon..
You beat me to it O0 :bow:

mac66

Apparently the designs will be accessed based on whether Ruger can build it or not and then submitted to the fans to vote on.  We have a chance to get an LTR into the running if everyone in AS votes on just ONE of them.   
Status quo, you know, is Latin for 'the mess we're in'.
Ronald Reagan

Even if you are on the right track, you'll get run over if you just sit there. Will Rogers

The King has degenerated into a tyrant and forfeits all rights to his subjects' obedience."  Patrick Henry, 1765

Motivation?...The best solution to morale problems is to kill all the unhappy people  Ghenghis Khan

Caliper

Is finally putting a last shoot hold open on the rifle a possibility?

peterlandsiedel

Wouldn't a last shoot hold open feature require redesigned magazines?

FiremanBob

To go with the Tech or Nodak aperture sight, the comb needs to be higher as well to get a proper cheek weld with the taller sight.
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mtmisfit

How about a stock design along the lines of the Ruger American? Interchangable length and comb height.
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SteelThunder

#9
I submitted the SteelThunderBolt

10/22 receiver and trigger guard
Whistle Pig aluminum/steel lined, fluted, compensated 18" barrel, Bentz chamber
Power Custom V-block barrel attachment
Volquartsen Exact Edge extractor
Power Custom titanium firing pin
Volquartsen extended charging handle
Volquartsen target hammer, sear and springs
Volquartsen target trigger
Volquartsen extended head safety
Volquartsen bolt buffer
Power Custom extended magazine release
Power Custom auto bolt release
EGW extended picatinny scope mount
Vortex 2-7X optic with Butler Creek flip up caps
Weaver low rings
Boyds "Tacticool" stock - free floated, finished with epoxy-coating,Treadtex on the forearm and wrist area
Kydex adjustable cheek piece (not shown in picture - similar to a Karsten's)
Uncle Mikes swivel studs and swivels
GI web sling

Can also easily have NoDak sights

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mac66

#10
Here is the one I submitted and the one to vote for:

Basically it is a stainless using a distributor exclusive from AcuSport which has a 18" threaded barrel (or a cut down 16" bbl for the compact version). It includes the mud guard (to protect the muzzle/crown from dirt, cement etc while in prone. And of course the threaded barrel allows the use of any other kind of muzzle device.

Peep and post sights are off a Mini 14/30 in order to utilize existing Ruger design. Though Tech Sights or the Nodak rear with rail is a preferred option.

A pictinny rail is added for optic mounting.

Stock is directly from the American Rimfire and gives the option of standard or compact, iron or optic sights and a sling

Auto bolt release is the only customization added.

Here is my cut and paste mock up...The idea is to give them something they can actually build.  And yeah, the flash hider is hideous but that's what Ruger offers and it can be swapped out.



Status quo, you know, is Latin for 'the mess we're in'.
Ronald Reagan

Even if you are on the right track, you'll get run over if you just sit there. Will Rogers

The King has degenerated into a tyrant and forfeits all rights to his subjects' obedience."  Patrick Henry, 1765

Motivation?...The best solution to morale problems is to kill all the unhappy people  Ghenghis Khan

Cory Mathis

Mac,

I like your rifle, just need to put in a better trigger job is all I see that it needs.

Great job.

Cory

Charles McKinley

Yep that is it Mac.  With a 3.5# trigger for CMP sportster. How picky do you think they will let us get?
Last evening, it occurred to me that when a defender of Liberty is called home, their load lands upon the shoulders of the defenders left behind. Just as the Founders did their duty for Liberty, every subsequent generation must continue their work lest Liberty perish. As there is no way for the remaining adults to take on the work of those that die, we must pass the ideals and duties on to the children. -PHenery

mac66

Somehow I just don't see Ruger doing a production run with trigger components from someone else and I don't see them putting a light trigger on the 10/22 for liability reasons.  If they could come up with adjustable trigger like on their American Rimfire bolt action that might work but those are two completely different trigger systems.

My goal was to give them something they could and would make and market. I just don't see them putting out a full blown custom that people would buy. 

The other thing they might say is that even if it doesn't win the contest they might see some value in producing something similar if they can use all Ruger components and ideas.
Status quo, you know, is Latin for 'the mess we're in'.
Ronald Reagan

Even if you are on the right track, you'll get run over if you just sit there. Will Rogers

The King has degenerated into a tyrant and forfeits all rights to his subjects' obedience."  Patrick Henry, 1765

Motivation?...The best solution to morale problems is to kill all the unhappy people  Ghenghis Khan

stoneknives

Quote from: mac66 on October 08, 2013, 06:12:45 PM
Here is the one I submitted and the one to vote for:

Basically it is a stainless using a distributor exclusive from AcuSport which has a 18" threaded barrel (or a cut down 16" bbl for the compact version). It includes the mud guard (to protect the muzzle/crown from dirt, cement etc while in prone. And of course the threaded barrel allows the use of any other kind of muzzle device.

Peep and post sights are off a Mini 14/30 in order to utilize existing Ruger design. Though Tech Sights or the Nodak rear with rail is a preferred option.

A pictinny rail is added for optic mounting.

Stock is directly from the American Rimfire and gives the option of standard or compact, iron or optic sights and a sling

Auto bolt release is the only customization added.

Here is my cut and paste mock up...The idea is to give them something they can actually build.  And yeah, the flash hider is hideous but that's what Ruger offers and it can be swapped out.

Great work on your design.
I sent in a similar idea  for LTR on a wood stock. In my write up suggested a Ruger 10/22 American stock for the semi-auto 10/22. The biggest difference in overall design concept between yours and mine is the picatinny rail is extended past the forend for better eye relief in prone, and the iron sights are are slightly higher to allow co-witness with a red dot. I also added a T3 mag release to let you keep your trigger hand in position during mag changes.
"When men's rules are Honorable and Just I will follow them. When I find the laws tolerable, I will tolerate them. When I find the rules obnoxious, I will ignore them. When I find evil imposed or codified, I will War against it. My Lord has made it known and understood to me that to accept the gift of freedom I will alone bear the full responsibility everything I do, or chose not to do." I .......    "This is Appleseed. We are here to restore the Republic. Tyrants, major or petty, need not apply."  I .......

"I stand with the mission, Sir" PHenry

Caliper

Quote from: peterlandsiedel on October 08, 2013, 12:10:20 PM
Wouldn't a last shoot hold open feature require redesigned magazines?

Apparently not anymore: http://cstmtech.com/10-22bs2g/

They claim it works with stock 10/22 mags, including the BX25 extended mags.  Of course, it looks like this requires a modified bolt instead and the kit totals $175... 

mac66

Quote from: stoneknives on October 09, 2013, 11:24:43 AM
Quote from: mac66 on October 08, 2013, 06:12:45 PM
Here is the one I submitted and the one to vote for:

Basically it is a stainless using a distributor exclusive from AcuSport which has a 18" threaded barrel (or a cut down 16" bbl for the compact version). It includes the mud guard (to protect the muzzle/crown from dirt, cement etc while in prone. And of course the threaded barrel allows the use of any other kind of muzzle device.

Peep and post sights are off a Mini 14/30 in order to utilize existing Ruger design. Though Tech Sights or the Nodak rear with rail is a preferred option.

A pictinny rail is added for optic mounting.

Stock is directly from the American Rimfire and gives the option of standard or compact, iron or optic sights and a sling

Auto bolt release is the only customization added.

Here is my cut and paste mock up...The idea is to give them something they can actually build.  And yeah, the flash hider is hideous but that's what Ruger offers and it can be swapped out.

Great work on your design.
I sent in a similar idea  for LTR on a wood stock. In my write up suggested a Ruger 10/22 American stock for the semi-auto 10/22. The biggest difference in overall design concept between yours and mine is the picatinny rail is extended past the forend for better eye relief in prone, and the iron sights are are slightly higher to allow co-witness with a red dot. I also added a T3 mag release to let you keep your trigger hand in position during mag changes.

Good points. I like the sight and rail on yours better than mine and was what I was trying to go for but just couldn't come up with the way to do it on my mock up. I just couldn't find an example of it to paste onto my model so didn't suggest it, though I wish I had.  I like the mag release as well but just don't think Ruger would go for it.  They kind of have a "wasn't invented here" syndrome.   

Lets hope that enough people submit an LTR style rifle to make Ruger think there is a market for them and they will pick one those designs. I don't really care whose LTR it is as long as it is one. 

Everybody here should submit a LTR design.
Status quo, you know, is Latin for 'the mess we're in'.
Ronald Reagan

Even if you are on the right track, you'll get run over if you just sit there. Will Rogers

The King has degenerated into a tyrant and forfeits all rights to his subjects' obedience."  Patrick Henry, 1765

Motivation?...The best solution to morale problems is to kill all the unhappy people  Ghenghis Khan

stoneknives

"Lets hope that enough people submit an LTR style rifle to make Ruger think there is a market for them and they will pick one those designs. I don't really care whose LTR it is as long as it is one.

Everybody here should submit a LTR design."


Agreed, every Appleseeder should submit a LTR.
Besides it would be nice if one of our own Appleseeder's LTR designs won. Great PR for Project Appleseed and a nice $5000 dollar package for the winner.
"When men's rules are Honorable and Just I will follow them. When I find the laws tolerable, I will tolerate them. When I find the rules obnoxious, I will ignore them. When I find evil imposed or codified, I will War against it. My Lord has made it known and understood to me that to accept the gift of freedom I will alone bear the full responsibility everything I do, or chose not to do." I .......    "This is Appleseed. We are here to restore the Republic. Tyrants, major or petty, need not apply."  I .......

"I stand with the mission, Sir" PHenry

mtmisfit

Mac66,
Like the concept, I'd add drilled for a Williams Foolproof rear peep as well.  Ruger already uses Williams sights.
"Count it the greatest sin to prefer life to honor, and for the sake of living to lose what makes life worth having."

"Lo Que Sea, Cuando Sea, Donde Sea"

".. You MUST learn from the mistakes of others. You can't possibly live long enough to make them all yourself..."

"central planning cannot work because it is trying to substitute an individual all-knowing intelligence for a distributed and fragmented system of localized but connected knowledge."

"Process and Procedure are the last hiding place of people without the wit and wisdom to do their job properly."

mac66

#19
Ruger's website is now posting a slide show of the entries. The photos are kind of hard to see but if you go to this link   http://ruger.com/micros/1022_50/getRandomEntry.php?ajax=n  and shrink the size (ctrl/ scroll wheel) and hit F5 to refresh you can look at the whole photo and click through them all.
Status quo, you know, is Latin for 'the mess we're in'.
Ronald Reagan

Even if you are on the right track, you'll get run over if you just sit there. Will Rogers

The King has degenerated into a tyrant and forfeits all rights to his subjects' obedience."  Patrick Henry, 1765

Motivation?...The best solution to morale problems is to kill all the unhappy people  Ghenghis Khan

stoneknives

 ..:.. Whoo Hoo Mac66  ..:..   Congratulations Dude. Your design made the top 10 in the Ruger 10/22 50th Anniversary Design Contest. Now all you Appleseeder's need to support one of our own and VOTE.
"When men's rules are Honorable and Just I will follow them. When I find the laws tolerable, I will tolerate them. When I find the rules obnoxious, I will ignore them. When I find evil imposed or codified, I will War against it. My Lord has made it known and understood to me that to accept the gift of freedom I will alone bear the full responsibility everything I do, or chose not to do." I .......    "This is Appleseed. We are here to restore the Republic. Tyrants, major or petty, need not apply."  I .......

"I stand with the mission, Sir" PHenry

MikeCee

I'm glad I learned to how to search a forum before posting a new thread. I was just about to post a link to the Ruger voting page with a special nod to those rifles that just seemed tailor-made to adapt to Appleseed, only to see the Project mentioned by the designer.

And lo and behold, all the info (and more!) was already here.

Guess I'd do my part to bump it to the top, then!
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Thorn

Nice design Mac66 - very practical re-use of existing parts.  Ruger should be able to easily convert existing tooling for the manufacturing process as well.
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mac66

Status quo, you know, is Latin for 'the mess we're in'.
Ronald Reagan

Even if you are on the right track, you'll get run over if you just sit there. Will Rogers

The King has degenerated into a tyrant and forfeits all rights to his subjects' obedience."  Patrick Henry, 1765

Motivation?...The best solution to morale problems is to kill all the unhappy people  Ghenghis Khan

MikeCee

Yes, it is starting to climb. Huzzah!
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Kosciusko

just voted

it's in a 3-way tie for 3rd place

unfortunately, the current 1st and 2nd have 19 and 17 per cent vs 10 per cent

time to mobilize the troops

mac66

Thanks for all the support. Even if I don't win the grand prize I already won a firearms of my choice from Ruger   ^:)^ ..:..
Status quo, you know, is Latin for 'the mess we're in'.
Ronald Reagan

Even if you are on the right track, you'll get run over if you just sit there. Will Rogers

The King has degenerated into a tyrant and forfeits all rights to his subjects' obedience."  Patrick Henry, 1765

Motivation?...The best solution to morale problems is to kill all the unhappy people  Ghenghis Khan

TaosGlock

Voted!
It is amazing some of the designs still utilize no sling swivel studs and still retain that worthless curved butt plate. :-[
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