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M1 Garand parts that you can use on your M1A

Started by Old Dog, June 24, 2007, 10:54:35 AM

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Old Dog

From the M14 Firing Line Public Forum - a list of GI M1 Garand parts that can be used to replace a broken/worn part on your M1A.

http://www.m-14forum.com/upload/showthread.php?t=39860
"The rifle itself has no moral stature, since it has no will of its own. Naturally, it may be used by evil men for evil purposes, but there are more good men than evil, and while the latter cannot be persuaded to the path of righteousness by propaganda, they can certainly be corrected by good men with rifles."

—Jeff Cooper, The Art of the Rifle

Simballo

Although the site acknowledges my log in, it says I don't have permission to access this post.  ???


Old Dog

#2
Sorry, here's a copy:



  #1       04-17-2007, 03:44 PM 
Bill Ricca 
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Garand Parts Usage on Commercial M14 Type Rifles

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The following Garand Parts can be used on your commercial M14 type rifle:

Stock Assembly

Butt Plate without shoulder rest (flapper), but only on early style M14 stocks. Most likely your rifle or parts kit does not have this type of stock.
Butt Swivel
Lower Butt Plate Screw



Trigger Housing Group

Hammer
Hammer Pin
Hammer Spring Guide
Hammer Spring Housing
Hammer Spring
Safety
Trigger
Trigger Pin

Rear Sight Group

Sight Base
Sight Cover
Windage Knob
Elevating Pinion (Garand is calibrated in yards, M14 in Meters, but in civilian life we mix the two)
Sight Aperture
A note of explanation: Elevating and Windage Knobs produced during WWII are different than postwar. Most rifles and kits contain postwar design as they are far superior. Years ago SA Inc. produced rifles with WWII knobs. Both WWII and postwar knobs interchange with all the other sight parts. However, the postwar and wartime knobs do not interchange amongst themselves. You can have either design, but not one of each in your rear sight assembly.

Bolt Assembly

Extractor (There are three basic types and all can be used in your commercial rifle)
Extractor Spring and Plunger
A note of explanation. There is some confusion on Ejector Assemblies. The Garand exists in two types, one has a longer spring than the other. The M14 ejector spring has a larger diameter and is longer than either Garand ejector. The ejector assembly was one of the many improvements made on the M14. They do not interchange.


Rear Hand Guard Spring Clip...I forgot this one. I am surprised nobody pointed it out.
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Last edited by Bill Ricca : 06-12-2007 at 05:20 PM. Reason: Forgot an item

edited by Fred to make it clear - by making them in "bold" - that "Stock Assembly", "Trigger Housing Group" and "Bolt Assembly" are NOT parts that can interchange, but simply titles that are descriptive of the list of parts that follow each, and which WILL INTERCHANGE...
"The rifle itself has no moral stature, since it has no will of its own. Naturally, it may be used by evil men for evil purposes, but there are more good men than evil, and while the latter cannot be persuaded to the path of righteousness by propaganda, they can certainly be corrected by good men with rifles."

—Jeff Cooper, The Art of the Rifle

SGTCap


SGTCap

Arent M1 parts relatively inexpensive compared to M1A parts.  That looks like some $$$ saving information right there.  ;D

Old Dog

You know, now that you mention it I don't think I'm in the habit of seeing "M14" parts from this list for sale.  Not sure why.  The guy that put that list together on M14 Firing Line Public Forum is a well know M14 smith.
"The rifle itself has no moral stature, since it has no will of its own. Naturally, it may be used by evil men for evil purposes, but there are more good men than evil, and while the latter cannot be persuaded to the path of righteousness by propaganda, they can certainly be corrected by good men with rifles."

—Jeff Cooper, The Art of the Rifle

Nickle

SGT Cap (and all), most of the parts that "interchange" are actually the same part, as in same part number and same NSN.
They have men amongst them who know very well what they are about, having been employed as Rangers against the Indians and Canadians and this country being much covered with wood, and hilly, is very advantageous for their method of fighting. . . . ".  Lord Percy

Sounds like New Englanders to me.

SGTCap

Correct me if I'm wrong but isnt that the majority of the parts need to build the action of an M1A?

Old Dog

You mean the trigger housing/assembly?  Sounds like it is.  I may "pick" one up at the gunshow this weekend if I can get over there.  Just for fun you know.  M1A isn't in the habit of breaking (especially not now that I shoot the M1's all the time instead of it).
"The rifle itself has no moral stature, since it has no will of its own. Naturally, it may be used by evil men for evil purposes, but there are more good men than evil, and while the latter cannot be persuaded to the path of righteousness by propaganda, they can certainly be corrected by good men with rifles."

—Jeff Cooper, The Art of the Rifle

Nickle

Most of the trigger assembly parts are the same, but not all.
They have men amongst them who know very well what they are about, having been employed as Rangers against the Indians and Canadians and this country being much covered with wood, and hilly, is very advantageous for their method of fighting. . . . ".  Lord Percy

Sounds like New Englanders to me.