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Second Amendment March, MI State Capitol, Mar 20

Started by SteelThunder, January 23, 2013, 12:27:51 PM

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SteelThunder

MCRGO just posted on their Facebook page that a Second Amendment March has been scheduled in Lansing for March 20 from 10 am to 2 pm. They bill this as giving the opportunity to speak directly with our state legislators, who are scheduled to be in session that day. 

You may want to review this opportunity and, if it fits your specific goals and beliefs, this may be a good opportunity to get off the couch and get involved.

http://www.mcrgo.org/mcrgo/
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NRA Certified Rifle Instructor, RSO
Warlord of the West

Ultima vox civis
"Learning occurs only after repetitive, demoralizing failures." - Pat Rogers
"Silence in the face of evil is itself evil; God will not hold us guiltless. Not to speak is to speak. Not to act is to act." - Dietrich Bonhoeffer
"So live your life that the fear of death can never enter your heart." - Tecumseh
"Never attribute to treachery, that which can adequately be explained by incompetence" - Bonaparte, Hanlon, et al

Superheat


Ibex

Someone will have to ask, so it might as well be me.
Appleseed shirts & hats are acceptable attire or no?

I am in, vacation day already approved.

Mike
.45 because shooting twice is just silly.

"Practice what you suck at." Jacob Bynum

Believe the bullet.

Caliper

For those so inclined, there is also a demonstration planned on Feb 8 in every state capitol: https://www.facebook.com/events/406312512782872/ 

At this time, I am planning to attend both 2/8 and 3/20.  Carpool anyone? 

mac66

Quote from: Caliper on January 24, 2013, 11:26:42 PM
For those so inclined, there is also a demonstration planned on Feb 8 in every state capitol: https://www.facebook.com/events/406312512782872/ 

At this time, I am planning to attend both 2/8 and 3/20.  Carpool anyone?

I'm in on both as well at least tentatively. Carpool? Yes.
Status quo, you know, is Latin for 'the mess we're in'.
Ronald Reagan

Even if you are on the right track, you'll get run over if you just sit there. Will Rogers

The King has degenerated into a tyrant and forfeits all rights to his subjects' obedience."  Patrick Henry, 1765

Motivation?...The best solution to morale problems is to kill all the unhappy people  Ghenghis Khan

Superheat

#5
Mike,
My opinion is PLEASE wear your shirt.  Leave your hat at home.
The t shirt is advertising and support for Appleseed.
A hat shows you are an instructor and thus can carry an implication of endorsement.
My .02. 

I would like to hear Fred  or someone at the advisory board give a more weighted response.

Quote from: Ibex on January 24, 2013, 05:51:41 PM
Someone will have to ask, so it might as well be me.
Appleseed shirts & hats are acceptable attire or no?

I am in, vacation day already approved.

Mike

Pitmaster

QuoteThe t shirt is advertising and support for Appleseed.
A hat shows you are an instructor and thus can carry an implication of endorsement.
My .02.

I would like to hear Fred  or someone at the advisory board give a more weighted response.

Since Appleseed doesn't take endorse or take a position I wouldn't wear one to a political event. Would it effect the non-profit status. I can't see how unless there is a specific vendetta against Appleseed.

Another reason I wouldn't is that however unlikely it could be any media shots taken can be distributed and printed.  Not that I would expect anything to happen but at any event like this something can happen and the right photo or camera angle might get some negative publicity. We saw how the media treated the Tea Party. I wouldn't want to put Project Appleseed as an organization at any risk of negative publicity.

For me, I would prefer to wear something that might send a stronger opinion than I would want publicly sent and associated with my Appleseed involvement.

I know we are spreading the message here but coordinating attendance to represent the RWVA and Appleseed is not in our best interest.
Pitmaster

Captain Noah Cook a Revolutionary War Veteran was my great, great, great,...great grandfather. Noah Cook enlisted in the militia on April 21, 1775 at age 18 upon learning of the Battles of Lexington and Concord that morning. His company left on that day for Concord arriving April 24, 1775.*

*History of Northampton, Massachusetts: from its settlement ..., Volume 2, Part 2, Chapter 25, Page 359


"The Second Amendment protects an individual right to possess a firearm unconnected with service in a militia, and to use that arm for traditionally lawful purposes, such as self-defense within the home." Antonin Scalia

�The test of a democracy is not whether the people vote, but whether the people rule.� G.K. Chesterton

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Caliper

I wore an Appleseed shirt at the march on 1/19...  Under two other layers of clothing... (should have worn another layer actually)  I did hand out a few tri folds.  Got Don Volaric and the State Patrollman who was on foot duty that day (he's a shooter and has a CMP Garand :)

If the two upcoming rallys are like the 1/19 one, there was an open mic.  Perfect opportunity for a bit of history and a call to action!  I wasn't prepared for this having never been to a rally of any type before...  Obviously, no RWVA references, but I'm thinking a bit of history and end with a bit of a benediction flavor.  Something to think about. 

mac66

I don't see standing up for one's civil rights as a partisan political issue. As Caliper alluded to however, one is unlikely to wear a T-shirt in February or March.   I am working on getting someone from our group to be a speaker, I think our message and historical perspective would go over very well.
Status quo, you know, is Latin for 'the mess we're in'.
Ronald Reagan

Even if you are on the right track, you'll get run over if you just sit there. Will Rogers

The King has degenerated into a tyrant and forfeits all rights to his subjects' obedience."  Patrick Henry, 1765

Motivation?...The best solution to morale problems is to kill all the unhappy people  Ghenghis Khan

mac66

Status quo, you know, is Latin for 'the mess we're in'.
Ronald Reagan

Even if you are on the right track, you'll get run over if you just sit there. Will Rogers

The King has degenerated into a tyrant and forfeits all rights to his subjects' obedience."  Patrick Henry, 1765

Motivation?...The best solution to morale problems is to kill all the unhappy people  Ghenghis Khan

mac66

Status quo, you know, is Latin for 'the mess we're in'.
Ronald Reagan

Even if you are on the right track, you'll get run over if you just sit there. Will Rogers

The King has degenerated into a tyrant and forfeits all rights to his subjects' obedience."  Patrick Henry, 1765

Motivation?...The best solution to morale problems is to kill all the unhappy people  Ghenghis Khan

SteelThunder

NRA Patron Member, SAF Life Member
NRA Certified Rifle Instructor, RSO
Warlord of the West

Ultima vox civis
"Learning occurs only after repetitive, demoralizing failures." - Pat Rogers
"Silence in the face of evil is itself evil; God will not hold us guiltless. Not to speak is to speak. Not to act is to act." - Dietrich Bonhoeffer
"So live your life that the fear of death can never enter your heart." - Tecumseh
"Never attribute to treachery, that which can adequately be explained by incompetence" - Bonaparte, Hanlon, et al

Pitmaster

I'm up in the air but from the way the week is starting out its not looking good.
Pitmaster

Captain Noah Cook a Revolutionary War Veteran was my great, great, great,...great grandfather. Noah Cook enlisted in the militia on April 21, 1775 at age 18 upon learning of the Battles of Lexington and Concord that morning. His company left on that day for Concord arriving April 24, 1775.*

*History of Northampton, Massachusetts: from its settlement ..., Volume 2, Part 2, Chapter 25, Page 359


"The Second Amendment protects an individual right to possess a firearm unconnected with service in a militia, and to use that arm for traditionally lawful purposes, such as self-defense within the home." Antonin Scalia

�The test of a democracy is not whether the people vote, but whether the people rule.� G.K. Chesterton

NRA Endowment Member

Caliper


Superheat

Quote from: mac66 on February 04, 2013, 03:10:38 PM
So who is going Friday the 8th?

Where did this event come from?  Who is organizing it? What time?  Where?  Lansing Capitol? 

Caliper

Quote from: Superheat on February 05, 2013, 11:45:36 AM

Where did this event come from?  Who is organizing it? What time?  Where?  Lansing Capitol?

See my first post above.  10AM in Lansing.  It is another group that is organing events at all state capitols nationwide through Facebook, similar to Jan 19. 

D.O.M.

I plan to do both the 8th and the 20th. Looks like I may need snowshoes for Friday!

Who's up for Fri the 8th?

Btw, the march on the 8th was getting up a head of 
steam prior to the event on 3/20 fwiw. Why not do one every month? Squeaky wheel and all...
Can't we all just agree to disagree in a civil fashion while the planet's last, fading hope of liberty and prosperity gets snuffed out?

No. We can't.

de KD8AQT 73

mac66

My son and I were going to go today but it took him and hour to get home from work this morning. Roads were bad. Guess I'm a sunshine patriot.  :'(
Status quo, you know, is Latin for 'the mess we're in'.
Ronald Reagan

Even if you are on the right track, you'll get run over if you just sit there. Will Rogers

The King has degenerated into a tyrant and forfeits all rights to his subjects' obedience."  Patrick Henry, 1765

Motivation?...The best solution to morale problems is to kill all the unhappy people  Ghenghis Khan

Superheat

I was given approval by Skip Coryell to hand out trifolds etc.   ^:)^    I also asked if we could have a table and he said he would check. Second thought, it might be an anchor rather than an aid. We will be marching and going in and out of the Capitol.   

SteelThunder

#19
Quote from: Superheat on February 18, 2013, 02:44:43 PM
I was given approval by Skip Coryell to hand out trifolds etc.   ^:)^    I also asked if we could have a table and he said he would check. Second thought, it might be an anchor rather than an aid. We will be marching and going in and out of the Capitol.

That's great Pete...good job!  While the table seems interesting, I'd have to agree that it probably won't work given the format of a march.

In the spirit of kickin' around ideas -->  What about someone wearing "sandwich board" with a poster on it generating interest in Appleseed and we hand out tri-folds, schedules, etc.  Alternately, could we have a "mobile table" -- say a wagon or cart with posters, flags, etc.  I'm planning to bring one of those 8-12' extendable roller paint brush handles to carry 1-2 flags on.  If we could get a lot of those for people to carry with our flag-tour flag sets on them (or maybe the conduits from the DAT?) that would be an attention getter as well.

I'll be there!  From the response I'm seeing out there, I think there are going to be thousands of people there .  We should set up a place for MI AS-ers to meet -- or at least have a mobile phone tree set up to meet once we get there.

Kris
NRA Patron Member, SAF Life Member
NRA Certified Rifle Instructor, RSO
Warlord of the West

Ultima vox civis
"Learning occurs only after repetitive, demoralizing failures." - Pat Rogers
"Silence in the face of evil is itself evil; God will not hold us guiltless. Not to speak is to speak. Not to act is to act." - Dietrich Bonhoeffer
"So live your life that the fear of death can never enter your heart." - Tecumseh
"Never attribute to treachery, that which can adequately be explained by incompetence" - Bonaparte, Hanlon, et al

Superheat

I would yield to the gentleman from the west side to wear the sandwich board.  Not me.
The idea of a synchronized flag tour would be AWESOME!  Dibs on the Gadsden.  We will have to keep the signs and flag poles outside.

At the 2A march in 2010 the state trooper at the desk said 'your pistol is ok in the Capitol but the umbrella will have to stay here'. 

Caliper

Quote from: Superheat on February 18, 2013, 03:38:51 PM
At the 2A march in 2010 the state trooper at the desk said 'your pistol is ok in the Capitol but the umbrella will have to stay here'.

Haha, awesome!  I believe rifles are OK inside as well as long as they are slung. 

SteelThunder

Quote from: Superheat on February 18, 2013, 03:38:51 PM
I would yield to the gentleman from the west side to wear the sandwich board.  Not me.
The idea of a synchronized flag tour would be AWESOME!  Dibs on the Gadsden.  We will have to keep the signs and flag poles outside.

Dang it...I was hoping you'd grab the sandwich board idea.  I'd love to do the rolling table idea but 1) I don't want to haul it, 2) I don't want to pull it, 3) I don't want to have to store it at the Capitol.

I might make up some "ask me about Project Appleseed" signs to place on the flag poles.  I'll take dibs on the Culpepper flag and the Texas Revolution Come and Take It flag.
NRA Patron Member, SAF Life Member
NRA Certified Rifle Instructor, RSO
Warlord of the West

Ultima vox civis
"Learning occurs only after repetitive, demoralizing failures." - Pat Rogers
"Silence in the face of evil is itself evil; God will not hold us guiltless. Not to speak is to speak. Not to act is to act." - Dietrich Bonhoeffer
"So live your life that the fear of death can never enter your heart." - Tecumseh
"Never attribute to treachery, that which can adequately be explained by incompetence" - Bonaparte, Hanlon, et al

Miki

I'll be there. (As long as the driving isn't hazardous.) Stop by the MGO table and say 'hi'.

Superheat

Who wants to car pool?  I'm trying to get one of my posterity to come with too.

Whippet

How many Appleseeders car pool to events? I may be looking to carpool. I live near Stony Creek Metropark (26 Mile Road & Van Dyke (M-53)).

I will probably bring my high speed, (relatively) low drag, tactical 3-year old (code name JACOB) with me. He has an easy to move booster seat and he travels well. He likes long walks on the beach and Appleseed's Safety Rules. Hopefully he will attract some positive attention that we can use for the cause. I know he will have fun. I expect a lot of "Hey Dad, that gun looks just like yours!" O0

I hope to talk with the Emergency Preparedness Expo guy, my State Senator Jack Brandenburg and my State Rep Pete Lund while at the event.

I could take any of the following roads based on anyone else that wants to carpool.
I-696/I-96 across,
I-69
I-75/I-69
M-59
1. Point the sights where they need to be pointed
2. Keep 'em there while you squeeze the trigger.
3. Repeat

Choose wisely and do your best at whatever you find yourself doing. (Whippet, 1997)

Tigress

I would be willing to join (and help pay gas), or drive in a car pool.  I could meet people at the intersection of I96, and D19 in Howell.  I'm not familiar with Lansing so if I'm driving someone could possibly navigate... lol.

Miki

I'm in for car pooling. Whippet, you have my phone number yes? I can drive...let's figure this out.

D.O.M.

Really looking forward to this! Are we good for LGOC? I was thinking of either Garand or M14...
Can't we all just agree to disagree in a civil fashion while the planet's last, fading hope of liberty and prosperity gets snuffed out?

No. We can't.

de KD8AQT 73

Caliper

D.O.M., yes LGOC is A-ok!   :).  I'd go for M1A over Garand in this case, do you have a 30 round mag for it? >:D

On the subject of carpools, who is taking I69 west to Lansing?  Pete, want to split gas?