Scaled Target Height?

[Justsomedude]

I'm printing out scaled targets.
How High should they be hung?

I'm pretty sure a Prone target shouldn't normally be hung at eye level

The Quick and Dirty AQT Scaled for 25 Feet is the one I'm using right now.
I can also scale the regular AQT Targets down for 25' feet as well (this is for Dry Fire practice).

Thanks,
Dude

[Justin]

Well, in short, it really depends on how far away it is from you.

Lets assume it is 1 yard away. You'd want the target to be in level line of sight from each position as possible. When I say level line of sight, I mean the front and rear sights are equal distance from the ground. Well then level line of sight would be:

Standing: Shoulder level
Sitting/Kneeling: Thigh/waist level
Prone Shin/Knee level

Is there some room for error? You betcha. A couple inches, maybe even a foot away from a level line of sight wouldn't be a big deal. Past that, you are getting your body in to some awkward positions that are nonproductive to steady hold factors.

Okay, what have we determined? That holding the rifle level (0 degrees) each position has a sweet spot, and has some room for error. How much room for error? A few degrees perhaps? If our targets are at 100 yards do they have to be at:

Standing: Shoulder level
Sitting/Kneeling: Thigh/waist level
Prone Shin/Knee level

Nope! While we can stay within the few degrees still, at 100 yards this translates into MANY MANY inches difference of height the target can be posted. You see, the angle remains the same, but because the distance (away from you) is greater, the distance (in height) is also much more.

The rest of the information is concerning this is in RWVA's IMC class. Learn what a MOA (minute of angle) is, and learn it well.

[GEmanuel]

I'm printing out scaled targets.
How High should they be hung?

After I scaled the AQT for 20 feet, I cut it into three sections and hung each section at a height which is reasonable  and somewhat comfortable. By that I man, I am not trying to shoot either uphill or downhill at so great an angle that I am distorting my postion or any of the SHFs.
Pretty big difference between 25 meters and 20 feet when you are working with angles and planes.
Hope this helps!

[Justsomedude]

So either 'go by feel' or I have to bust out the Protractor

Does this sound right?

Apply the MOA math to the vertical plane.
To sum up:
Look at the angle your Rifle would be shooting the actual target at actual distance and reproduce that angle for the scaled target.
The most "Math" would be required when shooting at a Prone Target while standing or a Standing Target while Prone.

The closer the Distance you were trying to emulate, the Prone target would be hung SLIGHTLY lower

When shooting Prone, a scaled Prone Target should be at your Prone NPOA.
When Kneeling/Seated a Prone target would be slightly below.

Of course, this is all assuming you were shooting on Level Groundnat targets of the same elevation you were...
And in the beginning we are trying to learn NPOA in each position.

Make sense?

[GEmanuel]

Set the Offhand (standing) Sitting/Kneeling andProne targets at three different heights so that you are not straining to dry fire at any of them. Cut the target in three sections or use three complete targets, your choice. Leave the protractor in the drawer and forget the angles, just hang the target at an appropriate height.
The height of the target is not relevant to what you are trying to do during dry fire which is practicing NPOA, SHFs, Trigger Control, Breathing, transitioning positions, magazine changes and etc.
Hope this helps

[Mark Davis]

If you always hang the target at the optimum height for comfort then the rating of RIFLEMAN is only relevent on level ground.
I have no problem always having targets for students at the comfy level.
In an effort to improve skill this instructor is wanting to up the ante for those who shoot RIFLEMAN scores all the time.