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reduced loads for 7.62 ( and others as well)

Started by wtr100, November 07, 2007, 04:54:38 PM

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wtr100

November 07, 2007, 04:54:38 PM
for guys driving stick shift this might make for some good 25 meter practice loads

http://www.castbulletassoc.org/forum/view_topic.php?id=1387&forum_id=22

The Load" is 13 Grains of Red Dot"

By C.E. Harris, Revised Sept. 27, 2007

My success in economizing by using up leftovers of misc. shotshell powder changed my approach to handloading.  About 15 years ago I was given an 8 lb. caddy of Red Dot from the estate of the late Vincent Marino,  a fellow gun club member who was an active trap and skeet shooter. I no longer reloaded shotshells, so asked myself, "what can I do with it?"

At the time my shooting was now mostly NRA-style high-power rifle, but using cast bullets in WWII militaries.  I was working at the time with a Winchester M1917 Enfield and a Smith-Corona M1903A3, both .30-'06s, and I also had a Long Branch No.4 MkII* in .303 and a Finnish M28/30 in 7.62x54R.  I needed several hundred rounds a week to practice offhand, reloading, and working the bolt in sitting and prone rapid, but didn't want to burn out my barrel or my wallet.  Powder used to be cheap, but then was $15/lb. (and is closer to $25 today!)or more), so cost is a factor in component choice. 
http://vets4fred.net/

Have your musket clean as a whistle, hatchet scoured, sixty rounds powder and ball, and be ready to march at a minute's warning.

Nickle

#1
November 07, 2007, 05:36:39 PM
http://appleseedinfo.org/smf/index.php?topic=555.0

There's some info there on the matter of cast bullets for the M1 and M14.

Red Dot will work quite well, with a bolt gun. Functioning of an M1 or m1A/M14 is going to be spotty at best. George Nonte did a fair amount on the subject, and it comes out that heavy charges of slow powder will give enough port pressure to function a semi-auto. Light loads of fast powder will not have enough port pressure.

So, 13 grains of Red Dot will work great with cast bullets for any of us 1903 owners. Cheap, too.
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Sounds like New Englanders to me.

Bravo

#2
November 07, 2007, 05:58:37 PM
Well I'll be!

And all this time, I thought the preferred reduced load for a 7.62 NATO was...... (wait for it)

The 5.56 NATO!

:o  ::)

wtr100

#3
November 07, 2007, 05:58:54 PM
I'm looking to brew up some loads for  the new Enfield 2A

http://vets4fred.net/

Have your musket clean as a whistle, hatchet scoured, sixty rounds powder and ball, and be ready to march at a minute's warning.

wcmartin1

#4
November 07, 2007, 09:33:29 PM
Quote from: Bravo on November 07, 2007, 05:58:37 PM
Well I'll be!

And all this time, I thought the preferred reduced load for a 7.62 NATO was...... (wait for it)

The 5.56 NATO!

:o  ::)

LOL!  Good one, Bravo! ;D ;D ;D  Thanks, I needed that.
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Buckshot

#5
November 08, 2007, 06:01:52 AM
Quote from: wtr100 on November 07, 2007, 05:58:54 PM
I'm looking to brew up some loads for  the new Enfield 2A



There is a LOT of use of Unique in this same application.

I THINK it was published in some of the Lyman handbooks, but someone had it published at one time.

Buckshot

Oohrah

#6
November 21, 2007, 02:38:25 AM
Good one Bravo ;D ;D :D
If left over shotgun power isn't a consideration, used
to have a ball with 30-06 and 308 with reduced loads
using 4759 and a 100gr Hornady half jackets at under
2000 fps.   Explodes jack rabbits sitting and makes two
halves when hit on the run!

kool aid

#7
November 21, 2007, 12:16:51 PM
Quote from: Bravo on November 07, 2007, 05:58:37 PM
Well I'll be!

And all this time, I thought the preferred reduced load for a 7.62 NATO was...... (wait for it)

The 5.56 NATO!

:o  ::)

Dude!

+1
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