OSHA Regulations may shut us down.

[VAshooter]

Do a search on the WEB for OSHA 2007-0032. It is a proposed regulation which lumps small arms ammo, primers, and smokeless powder in with dynamite and other high explosives. No more:

Shipping by UPS

Strict storage and handling provisions which will shut down gun stores and shooting ranges.

You won't be able to buy ammo from a retailer.

The end of the debate period is July 12, 2007.

You won't be able to transfer ammo from one vehicle to another without notifying the proper authorites and have someone there to supervise the transfer.

Everyone needs to be writing letters today.

Doug in Virginia

[Oohrah]

   Should have known after the years of rip offs for
hazard charges on primers and powder they would
find a more effective way to control componets! 
How many incidents have occured that points to the
need for this current charge for transporting?
   OSHA has far reaching powers beyond firearms
and related items that goes beyond what is probably
intended.   Kind of like BATF might target persons
and subjects at boarderlines and beyond to prove
the point that they can!
   Who do these letters get directed to?

[raf]

By all means send in comments to OSHA, but even if implemented, I think the regs will have the net result of only raising ammo prices slightly, due to costs of employee training and verification costs.  This is based on comments from presumably informed people on other boards.
Still, they--and I-- could be wrong, so I topped off my supplies a little earlier than I normally would have.  YMMV.

[lunghd]

The public comments period has been extended on this... methinks they're getting an earful.

GOOD.


Here's how to send them your polite & informed public input. This is a cut & paste of a post I put up on another forum:
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Read this: http://www.weaponeer.net/GH_ShowArticle.asp?HID=169&CATID=1%7C2%7C3%7C4%7C5

then go to the OSHA site and submit your public comments to this URL shown in the article: http://www.regulations.gov/fdmspublic/component/main

Then just like the weaponeer.net post says:

"Go to the Option 4 drop down menu and select "Document ID"
Key this ID in to the action box ... OSHA-2007-0032
Click on the SUBMIT button."

We have only a few more days (UNTIL JULY 12th!) to submit 'vicitm', er 'public' comments. I can tell you from working on keeping a local public forest open for 4wd access that public comments DO have an impact on the decisions made.

EDIT: My comment is in. Submitting a public comment requires a lot of personal information - I do not suggest you fake names but be aware that most any website (including mine) records IP#'s as part of it's routine traffic stat gathering. This IS a government site & leave information accordingly. Accurately vague may sound like an oxymoron but people should really have a legal address they can give out... even if it's at a 'MailBoxes Etc.'. Nuff said.

Be polite, factual and determined in your opposition. They DO read these things and most of those 'cogs in the machine' are more worried about their pension than the issue... THAT'S A HINT! (In my forestry dept example - the forestry department was THRILLED to have people actually interested in USING the public land rather than the usual Sierra Klub approach of "No access! Shut it ALL down and let's save the spotted three-nosed turnip weasel". In that case: Public use of public lands meant public officials kept their jobs... and the public kept it's rightful access to public lands for public use (hunting, fishing, camping, off-road access AND wilderness preservation). The OSHA people I have dealt with in the past have put their pants on the same way we do.


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All comments, including any personal information you provide, are placed in the public docket without change and may be made available online at http://www.regulations.gov. Therefore, OSHA cautions you about submitting personal information

[Muddogg]

The public comments period has been extended on this... methinks they're getting an earful.

GOOD.


Here's how to send them your polite & informed public input. This is a cut & paste of a post I put up on another forum:
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Read this: http://www.weaponeer.net/GH_ShowArticle.asp?HID=169&CATID=1%7C2%7C3%7C4%7C5

then go to the OSHA site and submit your public comments to this URL shown in the article: http://www.regulations.gov/fdmspublic/component/main

Then just like the weaponeer.net post says:

"Go to the Option 4 drop down menu and select "Document ID"
Key this ID in to the action box ... OSHA-2007-0032
Click on the SUBMIT button."

We have only a few more days (UNTIL JULY 12th!) to submit 'vicitm', er 'public' comments. I can tell you from working on keeping a local public forest open for 4wd access that public comments DO have an impact on the decisions made.

EDIT: My comment is in. Submitting a public comment requires a lot of personal information - I do not suggest you fake names but be aware that most any website (including mine) records IP#'s as part of it's routine traffic stat gathering. This IS a government site & leave information accordingly. Accurately vague may sound like an oxymoron but people should really have a legal address they can give out... even if it's at a 'MailBoxes Etc.'. Nuff said.

Be polite, factual and determined in your opposition. They DO read these things and most of those 'cogs in the machine' are more worried about their pension than the issue... THAT'S A HINT! (In my forestry dept example - the forestry department was THRILLED to have people actually interested in USING the public land rather than the usual Sierra Klub approach of "No access! Shut it ALL down and let's save the spotted three-nosed turnip weasel". In that case: Public use of public lands meant public officials kept their jobs... and the public kept it's rightful access to public lands for public use (hunting, fishing, camping, off-road access AND wilderness preservation). The OSHA people I have dealt with in the past have put their pants on the same way we do.


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All comments, including any personal information you provide, are placed in the public docket without change and may be made available online at http://www.regulations.gov. Therefore, OSHA cautions you about submitting personal information

I can't comment, as no comment icon is displayed! Have they closed the comments or something? I see that people have posted today from the search feature.

Did I mention I loathe bureaucrats? 'Cause I do, very much so... 
(I don't have enough money to stock up either, as I'm friggin' BROKE.)

[Grin Reaper]

http://appleseedinfo.org/smf/index.php?topic=439.0

[Oohrah]

It not so much putting on pants the same way, it's about unwanted
control without reason.   Someone decided a method to trigger this
under this agency.   I don't don't know what experiences the forester
has had, but I have seen investigations when a death occurs or
excessive accidents.   These, it seems goes outside of the scope to
find something wrong, even if it doesn't relate.
   The hazzard fee tacked on to shipping without changing the methods,
along with the fact that there really isn't a hazzard.   The few bucks that
someone thought would be the only effect could very well rise to un-
affordable.   Show me the proof that this bill is necessary or it's just
another form of gun control