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Mystery Hole in the Muzzle End of My Stock

Started by Foppish Dandy, February 27, 2012, 02:17:27 AM

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Foppish Dandy

Okay... I've got a mystery here that I'm hoping you guys and gals can help me out with...
I purchased this FA Enterprises adjustable wood target stock. It's got this strange hole in the muzzle end of the stock.

It's about the same diameter as the head of a standard Uncle Mike's style sling swivel stud. (Just measured... appx. 3/8" in diameter and 3/4" deep.) Is this for some sort of special swivel stud? It's too large of a diameter and too deep for the standard screw-in ones that I've got currently. Any ideas?

Take a look at the pic for more detail...

Thanks!

Sam
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Foppish Dandy

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2 clicks low

I suspect that it is for mounting weights or olympic style harmonic dampners.
Have you called the company and asked?

Most of us here at AS stick with pretty much a rack grade rifle (ok a few mods now & then) but I think you are looking for build advice in the wrong place. Have you tried over at http://www.rimfirecentral.com/forums/index.php ? Look in the Ultimate 10/22 forums. These are the people who will have the answers you want for the type of build you are doing.

Have you made it to a shoot yet? We only shoot to a 4 moa (field shooting standard) and have a belief of "run whatcha brung". Made a lot of rifleman with a stock 10/22 with only sling and upgraded sights.

If you haven't, get ot one. Your rifle will excell as is and we can always use instructors (as soon as you shoot the score) who can double as ERT's (emergency rifle tech's) to get a rifle back on the line.

2cl
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Foppish Dandy

Not familiar with mounting weights... not sure what they are. I was under the impression that harmonic dampeners are typically mounted on the barrel. I'm not sure how it would work in the stock. I can't find any information on the manufacturer... I've sent an email to the website I purchased the stock from.

Not really looking for build advice... already know what I'm doing on that front for the most part. Just saw something strange on my new stock that I wasn't familiar with that I thought someone might happen to recognize.

I may be off-base, but I'd tend to disagree with you regarding instructors and their rifles. While most of the instructors may own several rack grade rifles (typically used as loaners) and may have even started by shooting their score on one... I've found that more often than not, most of the instructors I've met have a pet-project rifle or two that're customized up the wazoo (laminate thumb-hole stocks, mag releases and bolt handles, bull barrels, etc.).

I've been to several shoots... also been active on the forums for about four months now and will actually be taking an orange hat at my next shoot at the end of the month. I've been doing all my shooting with a 75%-90% stock 10/22... you can see it in my avatar picture. I'm just in the process of building a super-custom 10/22 from scratch... mostly for the experience.

Sam
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2 clicks low

Sorry for my poor grammer.
I ment a place to mount weights. Some shooters who want more weight forward and don't want to modify the barrel mount weights on the frount of the forend.
The harmonic dampner I refer to is a tuning forked shaped thing with sliding weights that is also mounted sticking out of the forend. Checking around I have found that this type of dampner fell out of favor 20 or 30 years ago. I don't pay enough attention to current olympic trends and am hopelessly behind. Sorry.

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Foppish Dandy

Hmm... not sure why I'd want any additional weight forward. I suppose, though, if my barrel was too light I'd tend to get just as much drift as if it was too heavy.

You're not out of date with current Olympic shooting trends... you're just a student of historical Olympic shooting trends. It's all in how you word things!
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Roland

 I started shooting smallbore competitively recently. Nobody uses a semiauto. Nobody. So I don't think it is for a weight. Although that does seem to be the best option.

There are two kinds of instructors in the world (both dig if the shoot boss says so). Those that believe solely in rack grade rifles. And people like Langer and myself, who like optimizing their rifles to the Nth degree. The great thing about this program is that we can debate this for hours on end, both have our own opinions, and still work together. There are no divisions in Appleseed.

Roland
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Foppish Dandy

#8
Quote from: Roland on February 27, 2012, 05:41:19 PM
There are two kinds of instructors in the world (both dig if the shoot boss says so). Those that believe solely in rack grade rifles. And people like Langer and myself, who like optimizing their rifles to the Nth degree.

I'd honestly say that I have a foot in each world... I'm of the opinion that you should be able to pick up any reasonably reliable rifle, zero it in and shoot a rifleman's score with it. I believe that versatility like that is part of the true spirit of rifle marksmanship.

However, in the face of that, I also believe that, situation permitting, you should be using the best quality of equipment available for the task. To that regard, a person can't fully utilize said equipment, or so much as know what it is, until they've really spent time developing those basic skills. An unskilled shooter will be lucky to hit paper whether he's using an off the rack 10/22 or the most dialed-in custom job you've ever seen. However, for an experienced marksman, that equipment could me the difference between a 3-MOA spread and a 1-MOA spread.

Don't get me wrong... I've still got a good ways to go. However, I feel like I understand a bit more about shooting in general as well as how I shoot and I want to build a rifle that'll allow me to drive some nails. I know that our goal with Appleseed is a 4-MOA spread... but do we ever want to stop at "good enough"?
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- Benjamin Franklin (Notes for a proposition at the Pennsylvania Assembly, 1775)

"If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude than the animated contest of freedom — go home from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains sit lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen!"
- Samuel Adams (Speech, State House of Pennsylvania, Philadelphia, August 1, 1776)

2 clicks low

Quote from: Foppish Dandy on February 27, 2012, 06:08:16 PM

I know that our goal with Appleseed is a 4-MOA spread... but do we ever want to stop at "good enough"?

To quote our fearless leader, "perfection is the enemy of good enough".
So, yeah, in AS we want to stop at "good enough" and pick up the next task.
2cl
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Foppish Dandy

#10
From what I understand, that quote refers to things such as fiddling with your NPoA for so long that you don't have time to squeeze off a shot.

Somehow, I highly doubt that he's referring to just settling for something when you know you can do better. Moving on to the next task doesn't mean you should completely forget the prior... or become stagnant in your skill level. Regardless of the meaning of the quote, I'm going to do my best and continue improving so I can reach my full shooting potential. O0
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- Samuel Adams (Speech, State House of Pennsylvania, Philadelphia, August 1, 1776)

oladcock

Quote from: 2 clicks low on February 27, 2012, 06:59:06 PM
Quote from: Foppish Dandy on February 27, 2012, 06:08:16 PM

I know that our goal with Appleseed is a 4-MOA spread... but do we ever want to stop at "good enough"?

To quote our fearless leader, "perfection is the enemy of good enough".
So, yeah, in AS we want to stop at "good enough" and pick up the next task.
2cl

In the context of fussing the shot, not on equipment. "Rack" grade and "cheap" are 2 different things. Much can be done to these cheap rifles to make the more functional and user friendly and most of it doesn't cost anything but time with a little knowledge....O.L.
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Roland

People are different. Myself, I'm not going to consider my score "good enough" until it is a 250. Will that ever happen? Maybe. Maybe not.

AS allows people to set their own goals.

Roland
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"Be a man of principle. Fight for what you believe in. Keep your word. Live with integrity. Be brave. Believe in something bigger than yourself. Serve your country. Teach. Mentor. Give something back to society. Lead from the front. Conquer your fears. Be a good friend. Be humble and be self-confident. Appreciate your friends and family. Be a leader and not a follower. Be valorous on the field of battle. And take responsibility for your actions. Never forget those that were killed. And never let rest those that killed them." -- Major Douglas Zembiec

Reddot

Quote from: Roland on February 27, 2012, 09:27:10 PM
People are different. Myself, I'm not going to consider my score "good enough" until it is a 250. Will that ever happen? Maybe. Maybe not.

AS allows people to set their own goals.

Roland
And when you hit 250, you can start working on the 40 v's.... >:D O0