Lake City or Greek HXP for my M1?

[Kodo2003]

OK I need 30.06 for my M1. Should I get Greek HXP or Lake City both are the about the same price.

The Lake City has mixed head stamp yrs
Greek head stamps hxp60-hxp80

Any advice would be of great help. Thanks in advanced.

Kodo2003

[Francis Marion]

I'd only get LC if it's packed in clips.  I don't think CMP has any LC on clips.
Get the Greek HXP, packed in 8rd clips in bandoliers, sold in a spam can.
It's fully reloadable, plus you get it ready to shoot in your M1.
Save brass and clips, of course. 

[capnmac]

Short (and smart-donkey <g>) answer:  Yes.

As long as the LC is not reloaded "components" ammo, it ought to be to MilSpec.  So is the Greek for that matter.  MilSpec is good.  Generally M1's do well with M2 ball.  Mine has actually done better with "plain" M2 ball versus LC Match ammo--but those are 172gr FMJBT meant for '03s, too.

My experience with the reassembled from de-milled LC stock ammo is that it's ok belted up for the Class III community, but it has not been enough better to justify the price for my M1 or M1903 use.  But, that's me.

I'd get one of each, unless the vendor will give you a deal on more than one of either.  There's really no such thing as too much inexpensive 30-06.  Just like there's almost no quantity of en bloc M1 clips that gets to too many (well, 4 or 5 score can be a lot to have loose <g>).  I've arbitrarily set a limit at ten cloth bandoliers, too--but, that's probably as I 've not had the cash any of the times I've seen the bandoliered ammo lately, too (poverty can be a real female dog at times).

Any of that help any?

[Old Dog]

As good as the Greek shoots in my rifles I can't imagine Lake City being any better.  As far as I know the CMP uses the Greek surplus for the matches at Camp Perry.  Some folks have reported better accuracy from the Greek surplus in side by side trials with Lake City.

Your choice - but heed the suggestion to buy your first case or two of the surplus already in clips.  You can use the clips over and over (as long as you don't loose them or step on them and bend them so bad you can't straighten them out enough to use).  After that just buy the Greek in 20 round boxes and reload the clips.

[Buzzstrike]

In the classic fashion of wisdom from another owners board.



GET BOTH


Buzz.

[Kodo2003]

Thanks

Kodo2003

[hawkeye]

Happy new year! The Greek is easier to reload than the Lake City. The crimp on the primer pocket is very small on Greek, Lake city is a deep crimp. The Greek seems to shot fine in semi autos and bolt firearms.

[Oohrah]

Either will work great.  My understanding is the LC comes from delinked
ammo.   It is NOT componet reloads.  It is mistakenly told that machine
gun ammo is hotter It is not.   The same specs.  The LC comes loose
in GI ammo cans with 250 to a can.  I just ordered some last month, and
orders are way behind as no expected delivery date yet    I'm told
that what was to be several years supply is about 18 months the way
it is being ordered    Previous supply of Greek and was excellent.
Those clips last forever    I have a supply of them obtained for six
Ceremonial Garands used for Military Honors funerals.  The same clips
have been used for several years and still working well    Wish I could
afford to order another 500 to go with the last order, but it is what it is.
Some is better than none

[capnmac]

The nice thing about US MilSpec is that it is consistant.
So, all M2 Ball is M2 Ball.  All of the AP is the same, even the Tracer is consistant within production limits.

But, there was some construction of "Lake City" ammo using reassembled disassembled components.  I want to remember the boxes were red and black, and very economical.  The only trouble was that they were "short" runs as compared to what the "big" companies turn out.  So, the results were very similar to the aluminum-cased Blazer ammo in pistols--you just never knew what you were going to get.

Now, the de-linked LC is good stuff, even the tracer & AP (if your local jurisdiction still allows a person to own such).  It's been ok for me, just hard to find, and not worth the premium pricing of late.  For a while, Sportsman's guide had the whole belts, which was a handy way to get an ammo can and the links (which make handy trading goods at a show). 

[Bama]

The ah so familiar face at the loading dock, CMP Store South, says the Greek is more accurate. I bought both and I agree the HXP shoots better than the loose M2 LC stuff. Even though it says mixed headstamps, everything I've seen in my two cans worth of LC has been the same year/headstamp. Killer deal at about 30 cents a round!

[SamD]

The issue with LC is that although it may be the same year manufacture, there is no way to tell if it's the same lot, which means you have to accept potential lot to lot variation. Since it's original packing, all the Greek in a can is the same lot. Makes for consistency.

Sam