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SIG 522

Started by Goofcat, August 22, 2011, 02:38:02 PM

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Goofcat

Just wondering if anyone has shot rifleman with the SIG 522.

cadman

The short answer -- YES!

The long answer:

At the Feb 19/20 AS in Columbiana, AL I shot a 213 and a 218 with a SIG522.

the good: 

     a) stable platform and bullets went where aimed with consistancy.

     b) did not seem sensitive to ammunition.  I used CCI Mini-Mags HP, since SIG recommended them, in the Appleseed.  For target shooting, it didn't seem to matter; however, different ammo sometimes required a new zero.

the bad: 

     a) I have to shoot left-handed, mag release is on the right side only.  Required breaking position to change mags. Required time to verify NPOA afterwards.

     b) I have to shoot left-handed, must reach over to cycle action.

     c) there is no sling attachment point on the bottom or right side of rifle.  I had to create a 2nd "loop" using the end of the sling and slip it over the barrel and forestock.  Since the forestock is tapered, the sling did not slip towards the rear very much.  It worked, but I had to get into the loop sling every time.

     d) the sling's clip could not fit over the plastic attachment point at the rear of the rifle -- I used a loop for all AQT stages.

     e) too much tension in the sling pulls the POI down and right about 2-1/2".  I would assume down and left for a right-hand shooter.

     f) I put an inexpensive scope on and due to its height had to build up the comb.

     g) Plastic comb gets slipery in the hot weather.  Wrapped with a medical bandage and no longer an issue.


One last thing has happened since Feb.  I haven't been shooting much and the rifle stays in the vehicle, but when I've taken it out to loan, there are a lot of failure to fires.  I'm not certain whether it is the heat or not, but the oil on the bolt surfaces seems very tacky.  (I never noticed this before.)  The bolt appears to close slower than normal and perhaps isn't closing completely resulting in a light strike.  Cleaning seemed to restore performance until the last time.  When I took it out the last time the bolt assembly came apart as one of the e-clips had either broken or come off.  All this may be a lack of proper maintenance on my part, but it is frustrating and thought you and other might like to know about both the good and the bad.

cadman

A little follow-up on the SIG 522.

A phone call to their Customer Service resulted in the following:

     a) Of all lubricants available, they do not recommend the Remington oil as it does evaporate and leave a tacky residue such as I have experienced which in turn slows the bolt action resulting in FTF.

     b) As far as the bolt assembly coming apart, they modified the design and are sending me all the components required at no cost.  Should arrive in 7 days.

I cannot complain about their service thus far.

CADMAN

cadman

FYI:  What did SIG recommend?  Either Militec-1 or BreakFree CLP.

I've ordered some Militec-1.  Will post thoughts later.

CADMAN

2 clicks low

Quote from: cadman on August 22, 2011, 04:26:40 PM
     a) Of all lubricants available, they do not recommend the Remington oil as it does evaporate and leave a tacky residue such as I have experienced which in turn slows the bolt action resulting in FTF.
CADMAN

Interesting. I do not have a SIG but have been using Rem Oil for 35 years and have never experienced this on any of my guns. They all get cleaned after every use and once a year if not used.

Anyone else have this problem?

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Cory Mathis

Been cleaning guns with Rem Oil for the past 25 years with no trouble.  Can't complain.  I don't make my firearms wet by any means.  Just a very light coat of oil.

Casper

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Quote from: cadman on August 22, 2011, 03:54:18 PM
but the oil on the bolt surfaces seems very tacky.
Use Ballistol, Gunzilla or Hopes Elite, and the problem should disappear.

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Prior to deploying with my battalion in 2004, as the S4 I went on a hunt for the best dry lubricant available.  At the time, CLP was about the only thing we had.  CLP is alright, but it gums up pretty bad in any sort of dust.  After personally testing a half dozen or so dry lube options, I settled on MILTEC. To test it's superiority over CLP I supplied it to select firers at the next unit range.  Of the 400 shooters that day, 200 were provided MILTEC, so it was roughly a 50/50 split.  Those shooters using CLP experienced the typical failure rate for the M4, some rifles more than others of course, but at least 20% experienced what I would categorize as lube related failures.  Of those firers using MILTEC, none had any issues, with the exception of a few with bad magazines (never forget, in the Army, your weapon is made by the lowest bidder).  We deployed with MILTEC, and those results played out in combat in Iraq.  In 24 months of outside the wire combat, I never had a weapons malfunction.  My rifle stayed clean, but after firing enough rounds to heat up the action, the MILTEC bonds to the metal and can (should) be dry fired.  For awhile the Army was onboard with the MILTEC, but subsequently dropped it.  I'm not sure that it provided the protective qualities commensurate with CLP, particularly for long term storage.  Since my guns stay clean, that hasn't been an issue for me.