Gibsonburg, OH May 29-30

[DryFire]

I didn't get home till 2:30am last night after spending a wonderful time with some great Americans. At this moment I have much to clean and unpack so I will simply leave this as a place holder and let some of you post your thoughts 

DryFire

[Gordon]

 Dryfire, I'm sure you'll get back to this and report many of the outstanding events and accomplishments of the weekend. I'll try not to steal your thunder, man, but this event was so great I've just gotta get in here!

I have been at every Gibsonburg Appleseed since August '08, and I'll say that in many respects, this was the best one we've ever had! The weather was perfect, the local support was outstanding, we had a great mix of staff, and, most importantly, we had a large and varied mix of shooters.

I didn't check the "official" numbers but when I arrived on Saturday morning (late, around 11:30, as planned), I counted 37 targets downrange. This is our largest event to date! It still only puts us to about half our capacity; nonetheless it was wonderful seeing that long firing line.

This group of Appleseeders had just about everything we could ask for in the way of diversity. There were lots of first-timers, and lots of veterans. There were long-time precision target shooters, and folks who hadn't handled a rifle in years. There were children, and there were people old enough to legitimately complain about their eyesight and joints! There were Ohioans out-of-staters, including (I'm sorry Dinky) Michigan and Tennessee, at least.

The staff was superb. DryFire provided the organization and leadership, with Dinky offering her usual sagely comments and colorful anecdotes. I leave the remaining staff commentary to others, except to say that, as with virtually all Appleseed events, I was deeply gratified to be part of such a team.

We've always gotten good support from the club, but lately it's been getting off-the-charts good! The Turner-Wicker family are pillars of the Appleseed program in Gibsonburg, providing hot meals, firewood, steel targets for KD, line setup and breakdown, trash-hauling --- ceaseless and invaluable logistical support in all ways. Besides that, the club's leadership is really getting behind us now --- Dave, Gene, and Jim: Thank You!

I spent most of the weekend at one end of the line, including RSO all day Sunday, so I didn't get to mingle with all the shooters. But my personal greetings to:

• 
  Kevin & Chase: thanks for coming out guys! Chase, your groups are excellent, and moreover I appreciated your keeping your dad in line, safety-wise!
  
• Connie, Nate & Bill(winkle): great to see you again, Bill, and thanks for bringin' 'em! Nate man, you gotta get the check weld built up somehow. Connie, you gotta get something to to protect your arm so you can use the sling (heck, make Bill buy a shooting jacket!), and next time I see you I better see those NPOA shifts!
  
• Kelly: Kudos to you for the perseverance. I suppose that old tube-fed has a great history, and it's nice to look at, but seeing all those malfunctions was downright painful. On the other hand, by the end of the weekend, your position-build was excellent. I'm quite confident that next time out, with some decent equipment, your groups will tighten up beautifully.
  
• Bruce: Given that you're obviously such an experienced shooter, I found your teachability positively inspiring. I wish everyone had an attitude like yours. I wish I did!
  
• Kelly & Matt: Great meeting you, and thanks for coming all the way up from the Volunteer State. Matt, I don't remember who it was that helped you with that position-build for the sitting position, but it was great to see the result.
  
• Stephanie: I didn't spend much time with you but the offhand was a thing of beauty!
  
• Ben & Tom: Thanks for coming back! Give your mom & dad our warm regards. Tom, I don't want to steal anybody's thunder in bragging about your achievement, but once again --- wow! & congrat's!
  
• Frank: Where did we meet before? Oh well. Hey! I look forward to checking out the Cowboy Action!
  
• Hans: Great to see you on the line again. I didn't get to spend any time with you --- how'd it go!??!
  
• Matt Hall: Dear Mr. Hall, I sincerely wish you had gotten over that 210 mark! Besides the joy it would have brought to you and all of us in Gibsonurg, I was hoping to personally send Ishy a report. But, as you know, the number-one trait of a Rifleman is persistence. I have no doubt that you, sir, will exhibit this trait, and become a Rifleman in terms of both marksmanship and character.
  
• Dennis: Great to see you again. I don't want to steal anybody's thunder but "welcome aboard, brother!" I'll see you soon, somewhere in Michigan or Ohio, I'm sure.
  
• Councilman Metzger: You, sir, are a true inspiration. Thank you for leading the way, not only in introducing Project Appleseed to SCSC, but moreover in showing us all what the 7th step is really about!
  

To Everyone: Keep your back off the couch, your eye on the front sight, and your heart&mind on Saving America!

- FM / Gordon.

PS: GB and DF, sorry to be so verbose. I can't help it.

[jeep45238]

Man, I can't get enough of this program.  The people, the skill sets, the locations, the history - did I mention the people?  It seriously just keeps getting better and better.

Another member on this forum, gimp, was kind enough to allow me to carpool up with him due to vehicle problems, and we packed his truck and picked up his father on the way to Gibsonburg, OH to prepare for the shoot.  We met multiple shooters and staff members there that night, pitched our tents, and enjoyed the night.  That is, until somebody brought out their laptop and started to play the movie Full Metal Jacket at 11PM after I had called it a night, which combined with a super snorer whose talent can only be described as trying to cut a long piece of aluminum siding with a woodsaw, made darned sure I didn't fall asleep until 2:30-3AM.  Waking up at 5:30AM, and ready to go on Saturday morning.  HUZZAH!

As always, Lisa kept us fed well (quite a challenge with one person without a kitchen) - great food as always.  The students began to slowly arrive, and then before we know it we had a full list, save one late show.  We had a mix of students as always - men, women, children, former military, competitive high power shooters, club chairman, all with a huge gap in skill sets.

With all of this, we started Saturday off with a bit of promotion after a safety brief and introduction - Mr. Fuzzymath took on the red hat (instructor, no longer in training), given to him by the regional director:



As always, our shoot began in the morning by firing a redcoat target, without any advice to serve as a baseline for later reference.

People kept learning and pushing themselves, and infact, this young man started to put together some very nice tight groups - especially considering that his father and himself arrived without registration, without rifles, ammunition, slings, eye or hearing protection (they were quickly issued said gear)


He had quite a smile on his face, and though his father made it a point during registration that they would only be shooting on Saturday, EVERYBODY came back for a second does of heat, sun, humidity, history, and rifle marksmanship on Sunday.  HUZZAH!  Even with all of this and a club-imposed 5PM cut off time, everybody had a blast - we even had a Rifleman (with a capitol R) on his first AQT of the day, Mr. Ron V:


Day Two began with a comprehensive review of everything we taught on Saturday before a single shot was fired, along with a nasty NPOA drill involving 16 targets and 16 shots.  Don't miss  We also covered long distance shooting, wind hold offs, and come-ups.  This all proved very valuable later in the day.

The heat continued to take it's toll on everybody, instructors and students alike (even those of us that drank over 1.5 gallons of water before dinner time).  Our students kept a positive attitude with encouragement of the instructors, and had a blast with the Mad Minute.  After some more history, coaching, qualifications, coaching, and history, we concluded the day with a vote to keep pushing AQT's and one on one coaching instead of going for the 500 yard range.  We made one more Rifleman (with a capitol R), who was a left handed shooter using a right handed bolt gun that forced him to break position for every shot.  He made 210, exactly.




We had some awesome youth shooters as well:


Oh, and we had another orange hat join the ranks.  This gentleman was from Michigan, and had been promoting Appleseed and putting his boots to the ground long before he had even attended a shoot.  He shot a rifleman score amongst other mandates to become and instructor in training, and boy are we sure glad to have him aboard



At the end of Sunday, we had lost many people who decided to not tolerate any more abuse from the heat and sun - we still had a pretty fair showing of people, and our redcoat target in the afternoon was far better than the one from the morning even though we had far fewer shooters on the line.  That certainly says something about the program.


Last but not lease, meet Kelly.  Kelly was our late shooter, who did miss out on some of the instruction on Saturday.  She brought a Marlin 60, a tube fed .22 semi automatic that had a national match 1917 sling attached with a scope.  She fought equipment issues and heat exhaustion all day on Saturday.  On Sunday however, after trying to fit her equipment to her to no avail, she decided to take us up on the offer of a loaner rifle with iron sights.  This was later in the day, well after lunch and well into the closing of the event.  With some constant one on one coaching and positive reinforcement and positive attitude adjustments, we began to see some serious improvements.  You see, on Sunday morning's redcoat target, she had 3 shots out of 13 on the paper, and they were nowhere near the targets and in a buckshot pattern.  On Sunday evening's redcoat target, she had a good group of 3/3 shots on the 100 yard target, 2/3 on the 200 yard target, and she almost got the 13th shot that always makes Daniel Morgan smile.  She said she'll be back.


After Appleseed was officially over and the range cleaned up, we headed over to the coveted 500 yard range, where we equipped our students with everything that they brought, along with the instructor's varied centerfire rifle selection.  This varied from M1 Garands to M1A's, FAL, 1891/30, 1896 Krag rifle (dang accurate too!), K31 Swiss, 20" AR15, a XCR, and various other ones that I'm sure I missed.  The smiles that we had before on the 25 meter line REALLY started to shine through, especially as people applied what they learned and made hits on the first shots they took at 500 yards.  Simply awesome.

I swear, this program simply gets better the more and more you participate as staff.  I cant' decide if I like instructing better than shooting right now 

[Gordon]

...
... a vote to keep pushing AQT's and one on one coaching instead of going for the 500 yard range. We made one more Rifleman (with a capitol R), who was a left handed shooter using a right handed bolt gun that forced him to break position for every shot.  He made 210, exactly.
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Indeed! As a left-handed shooter, I'm impressed.

In addition to to having the bolt on the wrong side of the rifle, Tom had a scope, which further impedes rapid access.

Yes, he shot the 210, and he got wet for it! But later, on the very last AQT I believe, he shot a 218. No fluke here --- this man joins his brother Ben in the ranks of RWVA Riflemen, for sure!

Congrat's again, Tom.

[CaptMac]

FuzzyMath,

You look good in the red hat.  Congrats! 

CaptMac, fellow-experiencer of the Ramsuer Greenhouse Effect. 

[DryFire]

Day 1

So Friday night Jeep, my father, and I rolled into Sandusky County Sportsman's Club about 9:30, half an hour before I had expected to be there   So we got the tents up, the sleeping bags out and I spent some time re-uniting with the infamous dancing and singing Posterboy   We walked the range and talked a bit about the planned COF for the weekend. I delivered to Lisa her requested Goeta, ( http://www.goetta.com/ )Slim I think you have created a monster. Shortly there after it was time for bed, where luckily I seemed to sleep through the aluminium siding sawing snoring, sorry Jeep.

Sat. morning I was up and early at 06:15 and getting ready for the day. We got the cardboard hung, the flags up, admin. table set out, and a good breakfast in our stomaches. I can't thank the folks at SCSC for all the effort the put into having the posts and line up already, and for Lisa on getting the food prepared for the instructors on Sat. and Sun. morning, dinner Sat. night, and then lunch for everyone both days.   The shooters who hadn't camped out with us began rolling in and slow the registration list began to fill. It was a great mix of Americans this weekend from the young to the old, men and women alike. We were very pleased to have the club chairman as a shooter on the line as well as the club's business manager. I was also surprised to see the Hall family again after spending last weekend with them in Athens. In fact as we began to talk turns out that they seem to be following me around the Appleseed trail, I have instructed or shoot bossed all 4 events they have attended with us. So after the morning safety briefing and an introduction of the instructors we were retrieving rifles and down on the line.

Posterboy told us the history of Daniel Morgan and his rifleman and we soon began down the trail to make some rifleman of our own. As the morning progressed we saw some groups begin to shrink and knew we had some definite rifleman among us. At lunch I launched into story of Paul Revere's ride and the fight on Lexington Green. With the images of those who stood that day in Lexington fresh on their minds we returned to the line to further work on our marksmanship. We worked right through the afternoon sun and were able to accomplish two AQT targets before the clubs mandatory 5pm cease fire. Those AQT targets revealed for us three rifleman including Ron, who competes in CMP competition who turned in two rifleman's scores with a high of 245 with his bolt action CZ, and David the club chairman who also made his score with a bolt action.

After clearing the line and returning rifles to vehicles we gathered again to finish those last two strikes of the match. After the fight at Lexington it is always satisfying to hear of the victory at Concord and the successful fighting along the way back to Boston. As I spoke of the 14,000 men who took part in the fighting that day and the 20,000 who responded, I asked of them, how many could they get to rally to help defend a cause dear to their hearts? I am always in awe of the common community that those men and women had established amongst themselves. A few parting words and a request to see if anyone would not be returning the following day was met with a show of no hands! It always amazes me when those who had planned on just one day are pleased enough to see that it is worth it to come back on day 2.

[Bill of Rights]

Fuzzy! Congrats on the Red Hat! It looks good on you! 

I believe the correct term here is "WOOT!"

Well done, sir.

Blessings,
Bill

[DryFire]

Day 2

Sunday started a little later for me than Saturday but not by much. We were thankful that Gene the business mgr. of the club held for us a great Sunday morning service, for those who couldn't be in their home churches.   By 09:00 we were back at it, a quick review of the safety rules, and a safe rifle, and off we went again. Starting the morning Red Coat we picked up where we had left off. Dinky Dao gave us a thorough review that certainly cleared up some of the instruction that had come out of the fire hose the day before. After that it was time for some instructor student one on one with carding the sights. We then had the students become the instructors for the ball and dummy drill each evaluating his/her peer.

My how time can fly when you are working hard in the hot sun and it was soon time for lunch. Thanks again to Lisa and others for lunch; it is so nice as an instructor to not have to pack the kitchen and all the food that goes with it.  We covered trajectory, come ups, BSZ, wind compensation, and range finding at lunch, some of which would come in handy later The next thing we knew we were headed back to the sun and the grass of the firing line.

Dinky had decided that she wanted to try one more drill, and put us through a hip shifting, trigger follow through, cadence drill that really tested some of the students. From there it was back into the AQT targets. We found for ourselves another rifleman Sunday with a score of 210 on the dot. While shooting a rifleman's score is hard enough with a semi auto this man shot it with a bolt, but not only that he shot left handed with a right handed bolt action rifle. Persistence at its finest! Not only that, but he later backed it up with a 212 and a 218. A short break and we heard about some dangerous old men from Gopherboy.

Taking from the story of David Lamson we teamed up and made some noise with a highly successful mad minute drill. I hope someone posts a picture of the winning star because there most certainly wasn't much left. A couple more AQTs and the evening red coat was upon us. We cleaned up the range and I gave some closing comments for those who had a need to get home. We had too at this time Dennis come forward and I was proud to award him the orange hat. Dennis has more than 3 Appleseeds under his belt and has been serving to find more ranges for the crew in Ichigan, I mean Michigan. Dennis and I had talked the previous night for nearly an hour about what it means to be an instructor for Appleseed and he is a man who knows well what he is about, I am thankful to have him as a part of the team.

For those who remained and had brought center fire rifles it was off to the 500 yard range to shoot at some steel. The first rifle on the line was a scoped Savage bolt action in 30-06. Not having exact come ups we used the numbers for an M1 Garand 3,3,4,4. All watched with baited breath as he slung up, relaxed, found his NPOA, and fired by the numbers. With that all were rewarded with the satisfying thwwwack sound as that projectile slammed into the steel at 500 yards. HUZZZZAAAA!! From there came out a bunch of history, a Russian 90/31, my Swiss K31, a Krag, a Garand, and a mix of AR rifles. Dinky Dao pulled out her precious "Elvis", and Gopherboy even pulled out his Remington 700 SPS with one of those fancy see into the future scopes and a bipod. All who tried with that whiz bang rifle made hits. There is nothing as satisfying as the confirming sound of a .30 cal bullet striking steel. A few tracers   went down range as the sun sunk low in the sky and we called it a day about 9pm.

I wanted to make a special mention for one shooter, Nubbs. This was a man who came out in a wheel chair to spend the weekend in the heat and the sun. A man who personifies perseverance, he did everything that everyone else did without as much as a single complaint. Sir you are an example to us all, and thank you for your service to our country. You have made the momentous choice that all of our veterans have, and that is to serve in the service of preserving that which was won for us by those men on April 19th 1775. Thank you to you and all of our veterans.  

All in all it is an Appleseed I will never forget, I think I learned as much as the students and that is just the way it should be. Thanks to everyone who came out it is always good meet Appleseeders. For some reason this program attracts the best of the best out of America, and for that I am grateful.

DryFire

[Ishy]

I wanted to make a special mention for one shooter, Nubbs. This was a man who came out in a wheel chair to spend the weekend in the heat and the sun. A man who personifies perseverance, he did everything that everyone else did without as much as a single complaint. Sir you are an example to us all, and thank you for your service to our country. You have made the momentous choice that all of our veterans have, and that is to serve in the service of preserving that which was won for us by those men on April 19th 1775. Thank you to you and all of our veterans.  

Huzzah!  I am very sorry not to have had the opportunity to meet you, sir.  Bravo!

[Patriot Gal]

Sounds like an A-1 Appleseed weekend!!!  Congrats, Fuzzy Math on your red had.  Looks great!!

Thanks for all you do!
Patriot Gal

[Johnnyappleseed]

Great work Ohio 
Congratulations Fuzzy Math and Thank You for all you do .
JA

[EEL]

Wow    Don't tell my fellow Illinoisans     .......but sounds like I would have really enjoyed that shoot!!

Nice work Ohio!!!!!!! 

I gotta mosey east one of these weekends.  After reading all those outstanding Ohio AARs, that has become readily apparent.

EEL

[koolman68]

In my mind the true success of an event is determined by the ultimate satisfaction of the attendees. I had the privilege to watch the weekend unfold unencumbered by much responsibility. Lets be honest, this weekend was HOT!!! Four of the 40 shooters were close friends and family that are not "into" the history or shooting like us die hards. Some of the younger ones didn't even like loud gunfire. In the end it was unanimous that they all learned and enjoyed the weekend and want to come back. This is a testament to the quality of the instructors and the program. While there will always be room for improvement, the results should speak for themselves. Many thanks to ALL the instructors  Through the result of everyones efforts you are changing America for the better. Dryfire, of special note your passion to the cause is duly noted and thank you for leading the charge. Gopherboy, many thanks for helping to work out a few of Rebecca's issues. 

Best Regards,
Dennis (AKA Koolman68)

[damhans]

This was my second Appleseed and I was only able to attend on Sunday.  I am so glad I went.  My AQT scores did not improve (I'm still at a 182), but I very nearly cleared my last redcoat (one shot was just outside on the 300 yd target).  I'll keep practicing and will earn a Rifleman patch later this summer. 

Not making Rifleman this time was a little disappointing, but what MORE than made up for it was the KD in the evening.  I may not have the patch yet, but I proved to myself that I've learned a great deal.  I was able to make multiple hits at 500 yd. with my 1896 Krag and DryFire's K31.  That alone would have been worth the drive to Gibsonburg, but I also got meet Jeep, DryFire, and others that were not there in April. 

FuzzyMath: Congrats on the red hat.  I noticed it when I first got there, but didn't know you'd just received it this weekend. 

I've met some amazing people at my first two Appleseeds (both instructors and students alike).  I will most definitely be back.

Finally: Lisa's Swedish meatballs rule. 

[posterboy]

G'Burg

wow....we are cultivating a special place for the program here in the Great Black Swamp. Appleseed never fails to exceed my expectations and the reason for that is the PEOPLE who attend. We had an amazing group of students who persisted through a couple of long hot days to learn about heritage and marksmanship.  Thank you to all of you for making this a special place and a great program. I have to especially thank Lisa / Troy for their hard work behind the scenes ( and Mary too !) making this thing happen every time.

All of the shooters improved and I have never seen anyone shoot a 245 ! with a bolt ! Ron did ! Equally impressive was Tom's crosshanded bolt 210 score. I am so glad both he and Ben came again. David and his son did amazing with David shooting a Rifleman's score coming and young Paul knocking in the 190's. My Tennesee connection Matthew and Kelly put forth great effort as well as endured a 7hr drive to come ..Huzzah ! My club Chairman validated his skill shooting rifleman ! Huzzah. Thanks for all the Club Members who attended please spread the word at SCSC. Thanks to Gene and his wife for coming and a great sunday morning service.

As a lesson to tell everyone you know about the program, my pediatrician Dr Stephanie showed up after 7th stepping her. My 7 year old son had received his first stitches from a bike mishap and Dr Stephanie was looking them over last week. We each told him about our own stitch stories to make him feel better. Her story involved qualifying with a pistol for the NAVY ! She said she was having SO much FUN she didn't want stop to get fixed up ! With such an obvious opening I launched into my appleseed sales pitch and warned her that she should not come if she didn't want to become addicted to heritage and marksmanship. She came and had the time of her life and  am proud to say has bought a 10/22 and is joining SCSC tonite ! Her forum nickname will be "crossfire" but I'll let her explain that one !

Please come to G'Burg we have the space and I am happy that we broke our attendance record with this shoot but I am NOT satisfied. I can promise you an amazing time and 500 yrds of joy

PB

[GoldFish]

All of the shooters improved and I have never seen anyone shoot a 245 ! with a bolt ! Ron did ! Equally impressive was Tom's crosshanded bolt 210 score.

Wow!!!   That's absolutely AMAZING!  WTG Ron and Tom.

[Gordon]

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impressive was Tom's crosshanded bolt 210 score.
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Yes, and later that day he scored a 218!

[Butt Stock]

sorry i havent posted any thing just got side tracked on other things.

but any ways it was a grate shoot i have to say it was hot and i mean hot. There is so muck to say about the appleseed weekend  but congrats to fuzzy on his red hat. I have to say it was a good to have all the meals thank you mom. The 500 was fun we had alot of hits on the steal targets.   

BS

[Lisa]

 Sorry, you cannot post topics in this board. Well, I was going to post pictures under my account but I am not allowed to.

[jeep45238]

Lisa, for some reason it's saying you can't make a new topic, but you can make replies and put photos in the reply 

[DryFire]

Looks like Ron V. our amazing bolt gun shooter posted a bit of an AAR.

http://www.rimfirecentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=342552&page=2

I hope he doesn't mind me posting it here, and if you are reading this Ron thanks for the feedback sir. It was quite clear the although you weren't text book, you had certianly refined your own style and it works, and that is what counts. We so often like to say that we teach the ideal, but for everyone the ideal doesn't work and you have to find what works for you. I am sorry you didn't stick around for the 500 yd portion, I would have gladly let you fire a few rounds out of my K31 or AR.

It was a pleasure having you on the line, and we thank you for coming out  . Like I said before you amazed me not only with your scores, that you then stuck it out in the heat and sun for the remainder of the day. Thank you again. 

DryFire

[posterboy]

Every time I walked by Ron's target I just shook my head and jokingly said "obviously there's no hope for you !"

Sunday ended too early unfortunately. Many of the students were more than putting it together before the heat wiped us all out. Kudos to all of you for persisting ! Huzzah

pb

[Bill Winkle]

A resounding THANK YOU to everyone involved with the Gibsonburg, OH May 29-30 shoot!

This was my 4th Appleseed and 3rd time to Gibsonburg. It is always a pleasure to see "old" friends and meet new ones. Brought the entire family this time around; that is what it is all about right?!? Well, it was a good plan as everyone enjoyed themselves and looks forward to going again.

* Emily was particularly fond of the steady hold factors of each shooting position on Sunday morning. She has also been know to brag about winning the mad minute while simultaneously reminding me repeatedly that the BIG BAD Rifleman with their 30-cals didn't get it done

* Nathan was particularly fond of putting all those BIG guns as far down to the Right as possible. He will also tell you all about his 161 AQT (all prone) if just allowed the chance.

* Connie absolutely insists on getting her very own rifle. No more messing around with "mine." She was also moved by the History and has "instructed" me to get the book and a couple more REAL slings.

I, purposefully and adhering to the wise counsel of many I know and trust, tried to keep "hands off" my family and let the instructors do their thing. Wasn't it said that a prophet has no fame in his own country? Well, apparently it worked as while I sat back and listened, the drive to our next stop was highlighted with ongoing Appleseed talk. I just got the biggest kick out of my entire family talking about elbow location and the difficulty of this-or-that and what they are going to do to fix it and how high their AQT scores will be next time.

We did not take the opportunity to stay overnight on-site as my Queen and Princess prefer a Hot Tub over a Hot Tent but perhaps another time; maybe Nathan will go for it.

Without a doubt, Appleseed is a family-friendly event and everyone should plan a weekend. Cheaper than Cedar Point and it encourages quality time.

See you in the fall!

[jeep45238]

A resounding THANK YOU to everyone involved with the Gibsonburg, OH May 29-30 shoot!
* Emily was particularly fond of the steady hold factors of each shooting position on Sunday morning. She has also been know to brag about winning the mad minute while simultaneously reminding me repeatedly that the BIG BAD Rifleman with their 30-cals didn't get it done

Hope to see you and yours again Bill - don't worry, by fall my M1 should have a stock that doesn't let the receiver move drastically with each shot (that's what the cardboard was attempting to limit) and we'll clear the star next go 'round.

At least I've got an AR that requires no bedding, so I'll have a backup (sorry it's not a .30 cal  )

[.22 Guru]

This was my first Appleseed and I thought is was awesome!  It was everything I was hoping  for and then some.  Thanks to Posterboy for finally getting off my butt and joining SCSC.  Dryfire, Jeep, Buttstock, and the rest of the instructors were also great!  I learned so much.  I was pretty disappointed by my AQT's (183 best) but that's okay.  This history lesson, the fundamental one-on-one instruction, and the people were what made my weekend so great (and maybe 20 degrees cooler next time).  With some practice I know my scores will improve and I WILL make Rifleman!  Hopefully next shoot I convince a whole bunch of family and friends to come.  This is such a great program for all Americans and I hope to get more active to help promote and maybe instruct in the near future!  Thanks!

[Butt Stock]

no problem that is what appleseed it for is to help people around the contry and make rifleman. what we don't usually tell the shooters is it takes 2 or 3 appleseeds to rifleman.

that is a good thing you got up off your butt and came out.

hope i will see you out at the range some time soon i can work with you one on one. tomorrow i believe i am going to the black swamp shoot i don't know yet.

BS

[Lisa]