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Liquid Alox Bullet lube

Started by wtr100, January 23, 2008, 12:30:45 PM

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wtr100

I've come into a nice size 'pile' of cast bullets ~170 gr flat points with gas checks - they must have been left someplace warm as the bottom of the box is a solid 'slab' of bullet lube and the bullets themselves have little to no lube left on them - well other than the ones in the bottom of the box they're swimming in it.

could I use Lee Liquid Alox maybe with a dusting of mica to reduce the stickiness - these will be used in reduced .308 practice loads   
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Have your musket clean as a whistle, hatchet scoured, sixty rounds powder and ball, and be ready to march at a minute's warning.

ken grant

 I have used the Alox for many years with all kind of loads from .22's to .458 Lott and everything in between. I have always used it alone with nothing else.
The most likely problem you will have with it is USING TOO MUCH
It doesn't take much at all.
Righ now I am mostly using it with .30 cal. 170 gr. flat points with no gas check in a 30/30 Marlin with a Micro-Groove barrel and getting no leading with light loads(Unique)
  Most say don't do this in a Micro-Groove barrel but it works great for me and shoots well.
The kids love shooting it.

Nickle

I got my lube through eBay, IIRC.

http://www.lsstuff.com/lube/ I use the Red Carnuba. He sells it on eBay as well as on his website. $1.35 to $1.80 per stick is hard to beat.
They have men amongst them who know very well what they are about, having been employed as Rangers against the Indians and Canadians and this country being much covered with wood, and hilly, is very advantageous for their method of fighting. . . . ".  Lord Percy

Sounds like New Englanders to me.

wtr100

ok follow up question - a fair number of the bullets are sorta half lubed and half unlubed.

would it be worth the effort to heat them up a bit maybe in an old oven and remove all the lube - seems to me I could just use Alox over the top  -
http://vets4fred.net/

Have your musket clean as a whistle, hatchet scoured, sixty rounds powder and ball, and be ready to march at a minute's warning.

ken grant

 I would just try a Light coat of Alox over the old lub

Nickle

Put the new lube over the old lube. BTDT, it worked.
They have men amongst them who know very well what they are about, having been employed as Rangers against the Indians and Canadians and this country being much covered with wood, and hilly, is very advantageous for their method of fighting. . . . ".  Lord Percy

Sounds like New Englanders to me.

didactic

 ;)   Some years back I was given several thousand quite old .38 HBWC bullets that were either unlubed, or it had all evaporated off.  (Don't laugh.  Several summers in a Texas garage or attic will evaporate most anything off anything.)  To get them lightly re-lubed, and secondarily to make the Alox go further, I thinned it with toluene (available at good paint stores or the big orange box place.  Xylene will work the same but it dries a little slower, an aliphatic solvent like old-fashioned cigarette lighter fluid might work but I had the toluene already and it's the classic wax solvent.  A quart will last about a lifetime, that's often the smallest you can buy.), about 2:1 with the Alox.  Tumble the bullets (in a covered plastic container) in that glop until they're lightly coated.  The Lee instructions say to spread them out on waxed paper to let them dry.  I used old aluminum foil pie plates, that worked fine.  Do this outdoors and away from ignition, these solvents are flammable, and toluene and xylene are called AROMATIC solvents for a good reason.  They stink powerfully.

Thinned this way, a 4-ounce bottle of Alox will last about a quarter of forever, unless you do a WHOLE BUNCH of cast-bullet shooting.  No leading probs at all at reasonable velocities IME.
"If not us, who?  If not now, when?"  Ronald W. Reagan

wcmartin1

When working with Xylene or Toluene - don't get it on ya.  It'll make your babies be born naked. ;D

In the oilfield we call 'em MEDBS (Methyl Ethyl Death Bad $h*t).
"Unhappy it is, though, to reflect that a brother's sword has been sheathed in a brother's breast and that the once-happy and peaceful plains of America are either to be drenched with blood or inhabited by a race of slaves.  Sad alternative!  But can a virtuous man hesitate in his choice?" - George Washington - from a letter to a close friend after the events of April 19, 1775

"There is no nation on earth powerful enough to accomplish our (the United States) overthrow.  Our destruction, should it come at all, will be from another quarter.  From the inattention of the people to the concerns of their government, from their carelessness and negligence, I must confess that I do apprehend some danger.  I fear that they may place too implicit a confidence in their public servants, and fail properly to scrutinize their conduct; that in this way they may be made the dupes of designing men, and become the instruments of their own undoing." - Daniel Webster, June 1, 1837

wtr100

Quote from: Nickle on January 23, 2008, 05:39:00 PM
Put the new lube over the old lube. BTDT, it worked.

that's the answer I was looking for - better than explaining to the wife why there are 500 + bullets in the oven at 350 deg for 20 minutes  ;D
http://vets4fred.net/

Have your musket clean as a whistle, hatchet scoured, sixty rounds powder and ball, and be ready to march at a minute's warning.