Military Cartridge Brass Destruction 2010 – Round 2

[ErikAnderson]

It's happening again. ATK is trying to line their pocket with more of our money:
http://www.ammoland.com/2010/03/24/military-cartridge-brass-destruction-round-2/

They put together a weakly worded retraction here on the front page here:
http://www.ammoland.com/

Quotes from ATK program sales literature:

    "Currently handling brass scrap for ATK Lake City -- for sole purpose of recycling material and preventing any reloading of spent cases by the public with military grade brass."

    "Keeps Military Grade Brass from being re-loaded by unauthorized users."

    "To PREVENT anyone from using your scrap ammunition components for non-military purposes." (Emphasis in the original)

    "Assurability for the [military] installation, that no one can use this cartridge against law enforcement or our military personnel, by reloading the case."

This is what they make:
Commercial Accessories:
http://www.atk.com/customer_solutions_armamentsystems/cs_as_cacc_default.asp

Commercial Ammo
http://www.atk.com/customer_solutions_armamentsystems/cs_as_cammo_default.asp

Avoid their products and tell others about their decisions.  Here's how you can contact them and make your thoughts known (keep it polite!). Feel free to call, email or stop by and tell them you don't appreciate their disdain for folks who "roll their own".

Independence, Missouri
ATK Small Caliber Systems
Lake City Army Ammunition Plant
P.O. Box 1000
Independence, MO 64051
Phone: 816-796-7101

St. Louis, Missouri
ATK Tactical Systems -- Eagle Industries
1000 Biltmore Drive
Fenton, Mo 63062
Phone: 636-343-7547

[4bfox]

Yeah, I read about this a couple of days ago. And here I thought they were going to play nice....NOT! Time to ramp up the emails and phone calls again....

[desertrat144]

What happened to the Fed Order, reversing the 'destroy salvageable brass' order, and re-allowing brass to be resold on the open market?

Tom

[4bfox]

Apparently they DID that, but then ATK did an "end-run" around the legislation. Makes absolutely NO sense to me, they can make a lot more $ selling used brass cases than scrap brass. Maybe these folks don't have a lot of sense? 

[BaldDragn]

More companies they hold intrest in...

So you wanted an RCBS press... Think again
You were thinking about so CCI primers or Speer Bullets... take a pass
Campion products??? Not your friend!!!
Those boxs of Federal ammo on the shelf? Leave them there!

The rest of the list of public companies from ATKs own websight

Oroville, California
ATK Commercial Products -- RCBS
605 Oro Dam Boulevard
Oroville, CA 95965
Phone: 1-800-533-5000

Lewiston, Idaho
ATK Commercial Products -- CCI/Speer
2299 Snake River Avenue
Lewiston, ID 83501
Phone: 1-800-627-3640

Richmond, Indiana
ATK Commercial Products -- Champion
232 Industrial Parkway
Richmond, IN 47374
Phone: 1-800-441-4971

Anoka, Minnesota
ATK Commercial Products -- Federal Cartridge
900 Ehlen Drive
Anoka, MN 55303
Phone: 763-323-2300 

Independence, Missouri
ATK Small Caliber Systems
Lake City Army Ammunition Plant
P.O. Box 1000
Independence, MO 64051
Phone: 816-796-7101

Federal Express Address
R.R. 7 and HIghway 78
Independence, MO 64056

[4bfox]

Hmm...guess that answers my question of buying an RCBS or Dillon press.

[tdow]

From ATK's website:
ATK Statement Regarding Once-Fired Brass Cases

ATK is a strong supporter of our armed forces, the shooting sports industry, second amendment rights and all of our customers who choose to reload ammunition. In fact, ATK is a leader in the reloading market. A dated brochure and presentation have caused confusion in the marketplace and do not reflect the views of our company and will be immediately withdrawn. As a service to our military customers, we routinely handle demil operations for various munitions and respond to requests from military installations for reclamation and recycling of military items. Each contract is awarded through the military installation's procurement process. The installations received fair value for the brass.

ATK fully supports the provision passed by Congress last year to ensure that demilitarized spent brass casings remain available for civilian use.
_________________________________________________

Can anyone confirm what is actually true?

[SamD]

OK,
Iceberg spotted and logged, back to 17-18 April shoot planning 

[ErikAnderson]

Can anyone confirm what is actually true?

They printed the 'retraction' after being called to task by the MSSA. They've shown the capacity for trying the 'end run' to get the drop on the taxpayers (and reloaders), thus, while supporting your Appleseed and shooting habits, I'd suggest finding other companies to patronize; those that actually support us. Take two minutes to send the above address (and subsequent email addresses) your comments (again, keep it polite).