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Your Appleseed State Board => North Carolina => Topic started by: Fynn on March 21, 2018, 08:57:32 PM

Title: Question for NC event instructors
Post by: Fynn on March 21, 2018, 08:57:32 PM
Hello,

I will be using a bolt action .22 with a 5 rnd magazine for the Appleseed event in Ramseur this summer.

Will I be allowed to shoot stages 2 & 3 using two 5 rnd mags?

Or will my qualification attempt only count if I use a 5 rnd mag (shoot 2) then swith to the 10 rnd mag (shoot remaining 8)?

Thanks for any clarification you can give me.
Title: Re: Question for NC event instructors
Post by: Creakyknees on March 21, 2018, 09:15:34 PM
Fynn
Ultimately it will be up to the shoot boss at the event. Ideally the mag load should be 2 & 8 to get all the position shifts. Using a boltie is challenging but doable!
Look forward to seeing you on the line!
Creaky
Title: Re: Question for NC event instructors
Post by: Fynn on March 22, 2018, 12:41:01 PM
Quote from: Creakyknees on March 21, 2018, 09:15:34 PM
Fynn
Ultimately it will be up to the shoot boss at the event. Ideally the mag load should be 2 & 8 to get all the position shifts. Using a boltie is challenging but doable!
Look forward to seeing you on the line!
Creaky

Thanks for the reply! I really don't see how it would give me any sort of advantage 5/5 but I'll follow the rules for sure :-X

The CZ magazines are expensive and the only reason I would buy a 10 round mag is for the event. In addition, the 10 rounders are just plain awkward (for me) and change my support hand position.

I thought I should ask in advance since I definitely don't want to be sent home for not having the "correct" equipment :P
Title: Re: Question for NC event instructors
Post by: Nashville Stage on March 22, 2018, 01:19:13 PM
Fynn, I'll throw my 2 cents in. On my CZ452 (pictured to the left), I've found that the 10 round magazines make for much faster magazine changes, since they extend below the stock & give my fingers something to grab. I agree with you: those little mags are pricy for their size.

When in the standing/offhand position, the extended mag is right where my support hand naturally rests. What I do is extend my thumb & first two fingers, resting the rifle on those with the magazine between my thumb & index finger. I like the little bit of extra height it gives me as well. In the seated/kneeling and prone positions, your hand will fall much further forward on the stock so I wouldn't worry there.

Touch base with the Shoot Boss for your event; their name & contact info should be listed on the registration page. Shoot Bosses are awesome; I've seen some very creative solutions to problems before.
Title: Re: Question for NC event instructors
Post by: Fynn on March 22, 2018, 06:31:09 PM
Quote from: Nashville Stage on March 22, 2018, 01:19:13 PM
Fynn, I'll throw my 2 cents in. On my CZ452 (pictured to the left), I've found that the 10 round magazines make for much faster magazine changes, since they extend below the stock & give my fingers something to grab. I agree with you: those little mags are pricy for their size.

When in the standing/offhand position, the extended mag is right where my support hand naturally rests. What I do is extend my thumb & first two fingers, resting the rifle on those with the magazine between my thumb & index finger. I like the little bit of extra height it gives me as well. In the seated/kneeling and prone positions, your hand will fall much further forward on the stock so I wouldn't worry there.

Touch base with the Shoot Boss for your event; their name & contact info should be listed on the registration page. Shoot Bosses are awesome; I've seen some very creative solutions to problems before.

Thanks for the tips. I will try that offhand hold for sure and will contact the boss for the event.
Title: Re: Question for NC event instructors
Post by: stoneknives on March 22, 2018, 07:55:32 PM
5 and 5 on a bolt is fine as that was the correct for course of fire using the 1903 Springfield AQT. When the Army switch to the M1 it went to 2 and 8.

Remember the bolt guys have to reacquire NPOA with each shot ,not just each target.
Title: Re: Question for NC event instructors
Post by: The Wolfhound on March 22, 2018, 10:26:45 PM
The bolt throw on a 452 is short enough that you do  not have to break position.  Practice in dry fire to prove it to yourself.  It will not hit your face.  Then you can stay on target.  I have a couple of "2 shots-one hole" targets on my wall to prove it.  A distinct advantage over the 1903. 
Title: Re: Question for NC event instructors
Post by: Fynn on April 15, 2018, 01:02:42 PM
Well, after 2 weeks with the 10 round magazine, I can say with some degree of certainty - I hate it lol

Money's tight, magazines are expensive, this one is going back for a 5 rounder. Hopefully I can work something out with the shoot boss at qualifying events but maybe that is getting ahead of myself. I still need to learn how to shoot :P
Title: Re: Question for NC event instructors
Post by: Monkey on April 15, 2018, 03:37:19 PM
Quote from: Fynn on April 15, 2018, 01:02:42 PM
Well, after 2 weeks with the 10 round magazine, I can say with some degree of certainty - I hate it lol

Money's tight, magazines are expensive, this one is going back for a 5 rounder. Hopefully I can work something out with the shoot boss at qualifying events but maybe that is getting ahead of myself. I still need to learn how to shoot :P

Rack grade rifle, average ammo, teaching Americans to own everything out the Rifleman's Quarter Mile.  That's what we do.

At the end of the day, this is not a "gear snob" organization.  Bring what you have, or at least what you can afford.  The instructor team will work with you from there.

Just don't bring a M&P 15-22.  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Question for NC event instructors
Post by: Fynn on April 17, 2018, 10:43:32 PM
Due to the rescheduling of a trip, I will not be able to attend an event in Ramseur this summer but am signing up for June 2nd-3rd in Charlotte instead. I was looking forward to Ramseur but am confident the Charlotte will be awesome.