Project Appleseed

Our very own Weezer did such a good job of this last year, I'm gonna crib it for 2018... :)


Central Texas Rifle & Pistol Club ("CTRP")
384 Range Road, China Spring TX 76633
GPS Coordinates: Lat 31.691138, Long -97.283281
Click here for directions to the CTRP:  http://www.ctrpclub.org/map (http://www.ctrpclub.org/map)

Anyone who wears any color RWVA hat is invited to attend.
Anyone who might be interested in wearing one of those coveted RWVA hats is ALSO welcome to attend, but please PM me so we can discuss :)

Attendance is strongly encouraged.  Aw, heck, let's just say attendance is mandatory.  ~~:)     If you are unable to attend, please PM me to work out alternate arrangements.   Also, if money, transportation or an angry spouse might get in the way of your attendance, let me know and we'll work it out.

We are a huge state and, therefore, a large group!  This is your single, best opportunity to meet a large portion of the Texas cadre and talk, share stories, and learn from them.

I'm asking everyone to register on Eventbite. 
To Register, CLICK HERE: https://goappleseednow.org/?event=waco-tx-instructor-boot-camp-march-10-11-2018 (https://goappleseednow.org/?event=waco-tx-instructor-boot-camp-march-10-11-2018)


Times/Basic Agenda:
   Friday (optional) - Club will be open to attendees starting at 3 PM. 
                                      - Non-members of CTRP will be able to shoot as Guests of CTRP with a Member.  Please bring $5 :)
                                      - Optional medical training course will take place from 6 PM to 8 PM.
                                      - No certifications will be given; rather, we'll be going over basic medical training
                                        covering situations you might encounter on the range. 

   Saturday - 8 AM until bed time (if you're arriving Saturday morning, please plan to arrive no later than 7:30 AM)
                           - Interactive "Hands On" Instruction, History/strikes and safety breakouts all day!
                           - Campfire and fellowship in the evening!

    Sunday - 8 AM to 5 PM
                          - Rifle familiarization, KD Range Orientation/training, LibertySeeds, troubleshooting, State of the State, etc.

Meals:
   Friday (optional) - dinner (simple stuff like cold cuts, chips and soda)
   Saturday - breakfast, lunch, hot Texas Dinner!
   Sunday - breakfast, lunch
  All weekend - coffee, water, snacks
***While food, snacks, water and coffee will be provided, please feel free to bring your own if you have special dietary requirements.  Please - no alcoholic beverages!

Cost: $35 - (payable at the door) which includes $30 to cover meals, snacks and water for the weekend, and "range fee" of $5 for CTRP for the use of their excellent facilities!


What is an IBC?
An Appleseed IBC is an intense, drinking-from-the-firehose, weekend of interactive classwork (indoors, all weekend), where all instructors will get plenty of hands-on instruction and mentoring, while building friendships and camaraderie.   You shouldn't have any fear/trepidation about attending.  Bring the skills you have, and be ready to learn.  You WILL learn a lot, and have fun.  Even (ESPECIALLY!) if you're a newbie, or it's been awhile since you've volunteered at an event.  We Need YOU!

This is NOT your Mama's IBC!  We're still putting the final finishing touches on the presentations, but, BELIEVE ME there will be no sitting on our duffs listening to the professor from Ferris Beuller's Day Off droning on and on for two days.  Instead, we're going to be doing a ton of hands-on learning during breakout sessions.  Read on…

Blue Hats - get to know the instructor corps, see what goes on "behind the scenes", learn how to help run a safe event, learn/practice the points of instruction and history in case you might want to change your hat color in the future.  We want you doing POIs, breakouts, troubleshooting - everything!

Orange Hats - this is a great way to boost your performance in 2018!  You'll have ample opportunities to practice and polish your points of instruction, safety, and history skills.

Red Hats - we need you!  Our ideal ratio is 1 Red Hat for every 2 Orange Hats.  Plus, this event will help to shake out the winter cobwebs that may have grown on your perishable skills.

Shoot Bosses - You already know everything, right?   Great!  ALL Shoot Bosses should be at this event.  This may be the only time we have such a large gathering of our cadre, and it's a great opportunity to make friends, build our team and relationships, and mentor.

Some logistical details:
We will be in the meeting room.  It seats 50 people, so we'll have plenty of room. 

There is camping on-site, but trailer hookups are likely non-operational.  There are bathrooms and a nice kitchen for fine dining!

WE WILL HAVE CLUB MEMBERS AVAILABLE TO ACCOMPANY NON-MEMBERS TO THE RANGES!
Do you have an AR-15, Garand, or M1A that needs sighting in?  CTRP is a GREAT place to shoot out to 200 yards!
During instruction time, there won't be any shooting, but there will be rifle familiarization - AR15, M1 Garand, M1A, AK, 10/22, 597 and 795. 

What should you bring?  Well, in addition to your personal items for spending an overnight, please bring:
•   A teachable attitude. 
•   any teaching materials you normally bring to an AS
•   The instructor manual  (let me know if you need a copy)
•   A notebook or pad of paper and pens/pencils
•   A dummy rifle, if you have one
•   your copy of Paul Revere's Ride
•   A memory stick if you want electronic copies of our files
•   A video camera to record yourself in the breakout sessions - trust us, this will be an eye-opener for you

How should you prepare?

Blue Hats:
•   Read "Paul Revere's Ride"
•   Read the current Applecore Manual
•   Prepare for the AC1 RSO test, if you'd like to be certified to clear the line at Appleseed events
•   Make up a list of any questions you may have
•   Browse the current Instructor Manual, especially if you're planning to participate in the breakouts

Orange Hats:
•   Read "Paul Revere's Ride"
•   Read the current Instructor Manual
•   Read Fred's Guideposts
•   Try to commit as much of the "cheat sheet" to memory - line commands, safety rules, steady hold factors, etc.
•   Have at least a basic understanding of the strikes and DOMs

Red Hats:
•   Be ready to discuss all aspects of the history - prelims, strikes, DOMs, etc
•   Read the current Instructor Manual
•   You will be running/assisting in the breakout sessions. PMs with details will be forthcoming
•   You have no need for that cheat sheet, right?     :cool2:
•   Make sure your POIs are sharp

Shoot Bosses:
•   Be ready to discuss all aspects of the history - prelims, strikes, DOMs, etc
•   Read the current Instructor Manual
•   Read the current Shoot Boss Manual
•   You will likely be a squad leader for the breakouts - PMs with details will be forthcoming
•   ...I don't even need to mention the cheat sheet, right?     :cool2:

We're just at 60 Days Out, and looking forward to an EXCELLENT IBC at the World Famous CTRP in Waco!

We've got NEW RANGES to talk about, new KD shoots and the NRAAM to discuss.  This is Texas' big year, folks!!!


We're going to need some help running this thing, though!  Let me know if you can help with the following:

1. Rifle Familiarization!
    - We need a number of 10/22s, Remington 597s, Marlin 795s, AR-15s and a few Garands and M1As would be helpful.
    - If you have one or more of these to bring, sound off!
2. Dummy/Training/Laser rifles!
    - Green Hats - Bring one (or more if you have one!)   Sound off below if you can bring one!
    - There will be a special breakout on HOW TO MAKE THEM for folks who want to build their own!
3. Food Wrangling!
    - Let's get together and figure out meals.  Dean, your biscuits and soup were AMAZING last year!
    - Want chili again?  We can make that happen, too!
4. CTRP Members
    - Can you be there early?
    - Would you be a member to help a guest shoot?
5. All the other things!  :)

Sound off below if you can help out!

Jim ol' buddy ol' pal, I've just signed up for it.

For anyone considering doing this, but not yet decided:  YOU CAN (and should) DO IT!  Last year was not only a blast, but it made all of us better instructors.   :F

Jim - I'll bring a Marlin or two, along with my M1A and my dummy / training rifle - complete with the special "clicking trigger" (a.k.a. dog clicker) trick that Mr. and Mrs. Smith demoed last year.

I'll even consider sponsoring a guest or two to shoot, since I happen to be a member of the fantastic, fabulous locale that is the Waco range  ;)

If we're having chili, I'm bringing my hot sauces  >:D

Tumbleweed and I are registered.

We'll bring a KIDD Supergrade 10/22
Sig MCX
(2) M1As
Training Rifle

Signed up myself and my son (TXVoodoo). 

Signed up...

Last year's event was excellent, and I very much look forward to participating again.

There are 34 spots left, right now. Get you reservations in soon... this is gonna be great!!

Jim: Would you like me to handle check-in again?

E. Inman
CTRPC Member, arriving Friday afternoon.

Quote from: AF5US on January 23, 2018, 07:25:54 PM

Jim - I'll bring a Marlin or two, along with my M1A and my dummy / training rifle - complete with the special "clicking trigger" (a.k.a. dog clicker) trick that Mr. and Mrs. Smith demoed last year.

Jason,  I'm honored!

Mr Smith and I do wish we could attend this year.  We had so much fun last time! But I'm afraid it's just not in the cards  :'( 

We'll sure miss you guys.

And I'll miss all the eye-rolling at the sight of my tube-feeder  ::)  **)

NOOOO.  MR & MRS smith cant come!!   !@#)

Was really hoping to see you guys and catch up with you.  We're not making our annual migration to Arizona for the kids spring break so I don't know when we're going to see you again.  dang

Quote from: TxRebel on January 30, 2018, 03:03:07 PM
NOOOO.  MR & MRS smith cant come!!   !@#)

Was really hoping to see you guys and catch up with you.  We're not making our annual migration to Arizona for the kids spring break so I don't know when we're going to see you again.  dang

We're sad, too!  But we can usually only swing one trip a year together.  Livestock and all that,  you know.  This year we're going to Georgia to see our oldest daughter graduate from AIT. She'll be 30 by then.

But you'll see me at NRAAM in May 😁

Ghostring, you know I cribbed a bunch of that from ITB, right?    ;D ;D ;D    I figured the Michiganders would be too consumed with snow removal and frostbite to ever find out that the Texans had used their formula.

I'm coming.  (I know, shocked)  I might have a rifle or 10.  I'll wait til closer to see what is still needed.  But rest assured, we're covered.  Also have dummy.

Well my son (TXVoodoo) and his friend (BadVoodoo) were both blue hats but they shot riflemen this last weekend and took their orange hats.  So I'll have the boys with me.

I'll have 3 total dummy/training rifles.

The boys and I will need floor space somewhere to crash.

Quote from: TxRebel on February 07, 2018, 03:27:44 PM
The boys and I will need floor space somewhere to crash.

You won't be the only ones.  Last year there was plenty of room in the bunk house, we just have to clear floor space in the morning.  Throwing up a tent is also an option.

Quote from: AF5US on February 07, 2018, 03:34:52 PM
  Last year there was plenty of room in the bunk house, we just have to clear floor space in the morning.  Throwing up a tent is also an option.

Yeah - if you've ever heard Dan snoring then a tent is a mighty fine option. $$-0

Quote from: scuzzy on February 07, 2018, 04:39:08 PM

Quote from: AF5US on February 07, 2018, 03:34:52 PM
  Last year there was plenty of room in the bunk house, we just have to clear floor space in the morning.  Throwing up a tent is also an option.

Yeah - if you've ever heard Dan snoring then a tent is a mighty fine option. $$-0

**)

Kirby, you never noticed that I have my noise cancelling headphones when we're all camped out in the back at night?  O0

To whom it may concern:

I will be there Friday afternoon, with soup and biscuits for Friday evening chow for whomever/whenever.  Last year's chili was great, it'd be great if there were to be a repeat.

I claim dibs on a reclining chair in the club room to sleep on.

Didactic

I'll be setting up camp... There is plenty of room there for others too!

 Well I'm IN! LOL. Got several guns in the safe 4 scoped, 12 fac. sights, and 2 tech.. Slings etc.. I'll ask the lady of the house to see if she can cook up a crock pot of last years harvest. CHILI! Let me know which would be the best day to bring it.    Naturally I'd be available for assisting shooters at the range.

Guys, we're a WEEK OUT and ready to rock a great big Texas IBC!  ^:)^

Richard, we'd love to have some of your chili!  I think Saturday night is the ticket.

In fact, here's the menu as it stands today:

Friday Evening: Dean's World Famous Minestrone and Biscuits! Snacks and iced tea
Saturday Breakfast: Breakfast Tacos (egg, Bacon, Sausage), juices, cereal and milk, donuts.
Saturday Lunch: Subway sandwiches, chips, iced tea and cookies
Saturday Night: Chili, Fritos, chips, beans, ice tea and DESSERTS!
Sunday Breakfast: Leftovers, cinnamon rolls, donuts, cereal, milk and juice.
Sunday lunch: Marco's pizza, anything leftover!

Coffee and water will be available at all times, we may have Blue Bell ice cream, too  :)

I'd invite everyone to bring a simple dessert for Saturday supper, if it moves you!
Nothing like a little pot-luck dessert for a fun time!  Also, we'll be bringing SOME hot sauce, but if you like things INCREDIBLY SPICY, feel free to bring some of your own!  :1luvu

I will send out a simple Duty Roster and schedule this Monday.
I have need for a few volunteers from our instructor corps (green and red hats) for the following:
Check-in duty for Friday evening and Saturday morning.
Any Strike (I would prefer a solid First Strike, but any Strike will do!) We are to involve the IITs in how to prepare and give a Strike, but it's good if they see one done during the IBC.
Models for prone, sitting, and standing POI demonstrations.

We may also need some temporary kitchen help throughout the day  :)

Really getting psyched about seeing everyone next week!

Jim (Ghostring)

Mercedes and I will be there on Friday (between 3-4).

Willing to take a Strike, but for consistency purposes, it might be better for one person to do all three.  I'm happy to volunteer for that. I can also be a model (prone and standing) and instruct where needed.

I know Debbie will pitch in wherever needed (kitchen, admin, or elsewhere). 

We look forward to having a wonderful weekend with everybody.

Tumbleweed

Jim,

Not to put words in Eric's mouth but I think he volunteered with check-in.  If not, I can do Saturday morning.

On that note: Works getting a little crazy.  I have a half-day off on Friday, but I'm not immediately clear if I'll be able to take it  :-\  I'll know more by Thursday, and I'll be there by Saturday at least.  For now I'm still tentatively trying to make Friday.

Put me in for whatever modeling you need.  I'm still relatively flexible enough.

I can do a strike, if you like.  If you sign me up, let me know a rough time-limit if it applies (I tend to go a little longer than others, & I know it). 

Yeah, so basically . . .

Put me in wherever you need me buddy.  I (& others) benefited tons from this last year, I'm happy to pay it back a bit.

Jim,

My trip to OR is postponed, so I will attend after all. I'll handle check-in, model, and anything else necessary.

Eric

Jim-  I may be there Friday night but more than likely Saturday morning.  I can do anything except model seated (not flexible enough for cross legged any more).  Put me wherever I can be of the most help.  Looking forward to it yall.

Hello one and all.  I've been tasked by the all mighty Ghostring to coordinate boom sticks for show and tell.  I've got a fair amount already covered between Ghostring and myself.  Here is what I still need.  Please let me know what you can cover and I'll post a updated tracker.

Ruger 10/22:  Txrebel (x3)
Remington 597: Ghostring (x2) NEED 1 MORE
Marlin 795:  club has tons were good
AR-15:  Txrebel (x3)
Garand: Ghostring (x1), NEED 2 MORE
M1A: Txrebel (x1), NEED 2 MORE
AK: Txrebel (x1), NEED 2 MORE
SKS: Ghostring (x1), NEED 2 MORE

Quote from: TxRebel on March 06, 2018, 10:06:25 PM
Hello one and all.  I've been tasked by the all mighty Ghostring to coordinate boom sticks for show and tell.  I've got a fair amount already covered between Ghostring and myself.  Here is what I still need.  Please let me know what you can cover and I'll post a updated tracker.

Ruger 10/22:  Txrebel (x3)
Remington 597: Ghostring (x2) NEED 1 MORE
Marlin 795:  club has tons were good
AR-15:  Txrebel (x3)
Garand: Ghostring (x1), NEED 2 MORE
M1A: Txrebel (x1), NEED 2 MORE
AK: Txrebel (x1), NEED 2 MORE
SKS: Ghostring (x1), NEED 2 MORE

I have an M1A I'm planning on bringing.  I have the loaded model.

Tumbleweed has the Socom16 model; perhaps he can bring his - that would cover us on M1As and also show a little diversity.

I used to have an AK-47; don't any more.  Sold it to help pay for the M1A.  Don't regret it a bit.  I love that M1A, so very very much  :1luvu

Ruger 10/22:  Txrebel (x3)
Remington 597: Ghostring (x2) NEED 1 MORE
Marlin 795:  club has tons were good
AR-15:  Txrebel (x3)
Garand: Ghostring (x1), NEED 2 MORE
M1A: Txrebel (x1), AF5US (x1) NEED 1 MORE
AK: Txrebel (x1), NEED 2 MORE
SKS: Ghostring (x1), NEED 2 MORE

I can bring a VEPR, it's like an AK, but bigger (7.62 x 54r). Lemme know. :snipersmi

I have a loaded M1A, 6.5 Creedmoore and I'll bring my Socom.  I can also bring my KIDD Supergrade. I also have a Sig MCX that I can bring.

Tumbleweed

Gugisman -  if you want to bring your VEPR that's cool I'm not worried about getting a bunch of those.

Tumbleweed-  just need one of your M1As but your welcome to bring both if you want.  The KIDD and MCX would also be good for variation thx

Ruger 10/22:  Txrebel (x3)
Remington 597: Ghostring (x2) NEED 1 MORE
Marlin 795:  club has tons were good
AR-15:  Txrebel (x3)
Garand: Ghostring (x1), NEED 2 MORE
M1A: Txrebel (x1), AF5US (x1), Tumbleweed (x1)
AK: Txrebel (x1), NEED 2 MORE
SKS: Ghostring (x1), NEED 2 MORE

Quote from: TxRebel on March 07, 2018, 01:00:36 AM
Remington 597: Ghostring (x2) NEED 1 MORE

Will bring 1 597.

For whatever it's worth, I'm finishing up a little home project that the Green Hats might be interested in.  A home-made case to keep and transport targets and other shoot-boss supplies.  It's based off of a design by DragonMedic, in the Eastern part of the U.S.

It's "done enough" even at this point, although I'm hoping to polish it up a bit more.  Regardless - I'll bring it this weekend, in case a similar project might be useful to others.

Ruger 10/22:  Txrebel (x3)
Remington 597: Ghostring (x2), Scuzzy (x1)
Marlin 795:  club has tons were good
AR-15:  Txrebel (x3)
Garand: Ghostring (x1), NEED 2 MORE
M1A: Txrebel (x1), AF5US (x1), Tumbleweed (x1)
AK: Txrebel (x1), NEED 2 MORE
SKS: Ghostring (x1), NEED 2 MORE



PS: AF5US sounds interesting

 :'( :'( :'( :'(

Still so sad we can't go

I'd definitely bring my 60 again.  I'm determined to roll back some of the anti-tubefeeder sentiment that prevails amongst the bulk of the cadre. DETERMINED I say!

Just saw this - not registered yet but sent you a Personal message Ghostring.


Mrs. Smith: If I'm able to make it I'll be sure to bring some Marlin Model 60's - I've many a tube defended!

I guess some tube fed 60 would be okay as long as we quarantine them so they don't infect the rest of the guns.  :beer:

Quote from: TxRebel on March 07, 2018, 01:40:36 PM
I guess some tube fed 60 would be okay as long as we quarantine them so they don't infect the rest of the guns.  :beer:

:P :P :P :P  :tsk: :tsk:

Quote from: dayid on March 07, 2018, 01:14:42 PM
Just saw this - not registered yet but sent you a Personal message Ghostring.


Mrs. Smith: If I'm able to make it I'll be sure to bring some Marlin Model 60's - I've many a tube defended!

Dayid, I'm sure Ghostring will get back to you soon (if he hasn't already).  I'll toss in my quick two cents to say that we'd love to have you, and hope you can make it.

Gentlemen and Ladies

The IBC is, quite literally, just around the corner! 

Thanks to TxRebel for getting the Rifle's out of the way!
Dayid - PLEASE COME!  We can definitely use a few Model 60s to add to the pack!   O0

As you recall, an IBC has several breakout sessions that are first described and framed by the SB, then will feature an Instructor (Green Hat, likely!) who will demonstrate, then the IITs will get to practice and get signed-off on the knowledge!

So far, so good.  But who does what?  Great Question!

Here's the game plan for Friday, Saturday and Sunday:

Friday
6pm-8pm - Medical Discussion - tourniquet and Israeli bandage practice
8pm-sleep - Swap meet!

Saturday
(Times are approximate)
0700-0800 - Breakfast
0800-0815 - Pledge, entry survey, agenda
0815-0900 - Intros: Name, location, why do you AS?
0900-0920 - Safety Briefing and Breakout Ghostring
1020-1030 - Break
1030-1045 - Doing an effective POI
1045-1145 - Prone SHF and Breakout
1145-1230 - Lunch / Applecore
1230-1245 - History fundamentals
1245-1320 - First strike - no breakout - AF5US
1320-1330 - Break
1330-1425 - Six Steps and Breakout
1425-1525 - NPOA and Breakout
1525-1605 - Break
1605-1645 - Standing SHF and breakout - Tumbleweed
1645-1730 - Second strike dissection
1730-1915 - Dinner
1915-2030 - Rifle Familiarization - TxRebel
2030-???? - Optional IMC Review - ?????

SUNDAY
0800-0830 - Pledge/Admin/Forum/TIPS
0830-0850 - Elevator speech w/breakout
0850-0915 - State of the State - Review of 2017, goals for 2018 - Ghostring
0915-0925 - Break
0925-1035 - Seated SHF and breakout - AF5US
1035-1115 - IMC and breakout
1115-1130 - Break
1130-1200 - Effective Storytelling
1200-1230 - Lunch / Regional
1230-1315 - Third Strike - no breakout - Tumbleweed
1315-1430 - Diagnosing shooter errors and breakout - Team
1430-1445 - Break
1445-1530 - KD, Remaining POIs, talking targets, rifleman cadence, ball dummy, carding the sights
1530-1600 - DOMs, no breakout
1600-1630 - Closing comments/discussion/exit survey

If you'd like to head up some of the other breakout sessions, let me know.  Each POI will require an INSTRUCTOR and a MODEL.

More to follow!

I'll volunteer for-
Saturday: Prone SHF and NPOA
Sunday: IMC

Assign me anything else you need done

Quote from: dayid on March 07, 2018, 01:14:42 PM
Mrs. Smith: If I'm able to make it I'll be sure to bring some Marlin Model 60's - I've many a tube defended!

:1luvu

Quote from: Mrs. Smith on March 07, 2018, 12:53:27 PM
I'd definitely bring my 60 again.  I'm determined to roll back some of the anti-tubefeeder sentiment that prevails amongst the bulk of the cadre. DETERMINED I say!

Tubers? Like potato's? Why would we want those?  #)

I think I had my tubers tied  :slap:, won't be having any of those.

Jason,

I actually saw and handled two of DragonMedic's cases in Michigan, and if I had a way to get one home I would have.
It's an excellent concept, and he's made them fairly inexpensive to boot.

Really looking forward to your take on it!

Jim

Quote from: AF5US on March 07, 2018, 09:24:25 AM
For whatever it's worth, I'm finishing up a little home project that the Green Hats might be interested in.  A home-made case to keep and transport targets and other shoot-boss supplies.  It's based off of a design by DragonMedic, in the Eastern part of the U.S.

It's "done enough" even at this point, although I'm hoping to polish it up a bit more.  Regardless - I'll bring it this weekend, in case a similar project might be useful to others.

Target boxes.  Designed by Dragonmedic.

Here's the  link to some pics: https://appleseedinfo.org/smf/index.php?topic=52732.msg352395#msg352395 (https://appleseedinfo.org/smf/index.php?topic=52732.msg352395#msg352395)

Quote from: Superheat on March 08, 2018, 10:47:32 AM
Target boxes.  Designed by Dragonmedic.

Here's the  link to some pics: https://appleseedinfo.org/smf/index.php?topic=52732.msg352395#msg352395 (https://appleseedinfo.org/smf/index.php?topic=52732.msg352395#msg352395)

Superheat's link above is exactly the post where I originally stumbled on this.  Like Jim, DragonMedic lives far from me & I didn't have a good way to take delivery.  He was kind enough to share some designs with me; I play an IT guy on T.V. but my attempt came out not-half-bad.  I modified the design to include a third section on the back, to add a foot of deep-storage space.  It does of course add weight, but it's not terrible.

I had a chance to work on it a bit more.  It's pretty well finished - I'll tweak and smooth slightly next week, but it's a good prototype to show this weekend.

Picture attached to this message

Quote from: DrRichP on March 08, 2018, 03:38:21 AM

Quote from: Mrs. Smith on March 07, 2018, 12:53:27 PM
I'd definitely bring my 60 again.  I'm determined to roll back some of the anti-tubefeeder sentiment that prevails amongst the bulk of the cadre. DETERMINED I say!

Tubers? Like potato's? Why would we want those?  #)

I think I had my tubers tied  :slap:, won't be having any of those.

I literally lol'd!! But you certainly made my point  **)

We had a couple at our most recent event that had attended an Appleseed previously, with tube feeders. They were made to feel as if they were holding everything up, and inconveniencing the line.  That's total crap.  When I'm on the line with mine, it doesn't slow things down one bit.  I told them next time, they can bring those rifles, and I'll show 'em how it's done.  It's more difficult, but thanks to some advice from Milt and Margie (NM instructors now in....  Idaho? She goes by Appleseed Widow. I forget Milt's. But I digress) I have zero impact on the flow of the line.  You can ask Ghostring. He's seen me do it.  I imagine it's pretty entertaining to watch  ;D   I even do the rapid fire version of the AQT with it.  In fact , now that I think about it, I came within 9 points of rifleman at my very first event shooting my model 60 with tech sights. I didn't come up short because of the rifle. I came up short because of my vision.

Ticks me off when I hear about somebody showing up with their Dad's or Granddad's model 60 and being treated like it's not good enough.  I encourage mag feeds, because it's easier for the shooter, but it's not the end-all.

There goes that mouth of mine again.  :sb: When is somebody going to tell me to just shut up?  And just think.... you guys are going to be stuck in a booth at NRAAM with me for THREE DAYS.  My apologies in advance  >:D >:D

:beer:
Traci

Quote from: AF5US on March 08, 2018, 10:59:47 AM

Quote from: Superheat on March 08, 2018, 10:47:32 AM
Target boxes.  Designed by Dragonmedic.

Here's the  link to some pics: https://appleseedinfo.org/smf/index.php?topic=52732.msg352395#msg352395 (https://appleseedinfo.org/smf/index.php?topic=52732.msg352395#msg352395)

Superheat's link above is exactly the post where I originally stumbled on this.  Like Jim, DragonMedic lives far from me & I didn't have a good way to take delivery.  He was kind enough to share some designs with me; I play an IT guy on T.V. but my attempt came out not-half-bad.  I modified the design to include a third section on the back, to add a foot of deep-storage space.  It does of course add weight, but it's not terrible.

I had a chance to work on it a bit more.  It's pretty well finished - I'll tweak and smooth slightly next week, but it's a good prototype to show this weekend.

Picture attached to this message

that's.... AWESOME.

Have you considered putting it on wheels? Cuz, you know. I"m lazy, and I don't do anything the hard way  ;D

Quote from: Mrs. Smith on March 08, 2018, 06:38:07 PM

Quote from: AF5US on March 08, 2018, 10:59:47 AM

Quote from: Superheat on March 08, 2018, 10:47:32 AM
Target boxes.  Designed by Dragonmedic.

Here's the  link to some pics: https://appleseedinfo.org/smf/index.php?topic=52732.msg352395#msg352395 (https://appleseedinfo.org/smf/index.php?topic=52732.msg352395#msg352395)

Superheat's link above is exactly the post where I originally stumbled on this.  Like Jim, DragonMedic lives far from me & I didn't have a good way to take delivery.  He was kind enough to share some designs with me; I play an IT guy on T.V. but my attempt came out not-half-bad.  I modified the design to include a third section on the back, to add a foot of deep-storage space.  It does of course add weight, but it's not terrible.

I had a chance to work on it a bit more.  It's pretty well finished - I'll tweak and smooth slightly next week, but it's a good prototype to show this weekend.

Picture attached to this message

that's.... AWESOME.

Have you considered putting it on wheels? Cuz, you know. I"m lazy, and I don't do anything the hard way  ;D

Thank you Mrs. Smith, I appreciate it.  I haven't decided what I want to do, but I'm considering an enhancement.  Wheels might have to be "beefy" to get through a field.  I'm also considering a rope handle on either side.

I think the beauty of this is that each instructor can do what they want with this.  Want to keep weight and length down?  Skip the custom third section - etc.

I can bring an AK and an SKS if they are still needed.

Also, I booked a hotel in Waco. Are we supposed to stay there on the property?

And, are the IITs expected to be there Friday evening?

Go ahead and bring them - better to have too many than not enough.

Not so much "supposed" to stay on the property, but a good number of us are either throwing up tents or laying out cots in the bunk house.  If you can cancel your hotel without penalty you're certainly welcome to join us.

No one is "expected" to make it Friday, but if you can you're very welcome.  It's a chance to get in a little trigger time, go over some common medical issues and how to handle, and just enjoy some good, all-around (mostly) wholesome comradery.  You and I live in the same area - I took a half day off to head down; I realize that not everyone can do that.  If you can't that's fine, just be sure to make it bright and early Saturday.

Quote from: WeaponX on March 08, 2018, 10:04:06 PM
I can bring an AK and an SKS if they are still needed.

Also, I booked a hotel in Waco. Are we supposed to stay there on the property?

And, are the IITs expected to be there Friday evening?

Quote<snip> ...You can ask Ghostring. He's seen me do it.  I imagine it's pretty entertaining to watch  ;D   I even do the rapid fire version of the AQT with it.<snip>

PREACH IT!  :bow:

I'll testify that I had NO FREAKIN' IDEA how fast a tuber could run the course before seeing Traci shoot her 60.  (It's named Squirrel...or was it Not-Squirrel...I digress...)  Anyway, she knows what she's about with that thing.

Quote from: Mrs. Smith on March 08, 2018, 11:58:55 AM

Quote from: DrRichP on March 08, 2018, 03:38:21 AM

Quote from: Mrs. Smith on March 07, 2018, 12:53:27 PM
I'd definitely bring my 60 again.  I'm determined to roll back some of the anti-tubefeeder sentiment that prevails amongst the bulk of the cadre. DETERMINED I say!

Tubers? Like potato's? Why would we want those?  #)

I think I had my tubers tied  :slap:, won't be having any of those.

I literally lol'd!! But you certainly made my point  **)

We had a couple at our most recent event that had attended an Appleseed previously, with tube feeders. They were made to feel as if they were holding everything up, and inconveniencing the line.  That's total crap.  When I'm on the line with mine, it doesn't slow things down one bit.  I told them next time, they can bring those rifles, and I'll show 'em how it's done.  It's more difficult, but thanks to some advice from Milt and Margie (NM instructors now in....  Idaho? She goes by Appleseed Widow. I forget Milt's. But I digress) I have zero impact on the flow of the line.  You can ask Ghostring. He's seen me do it.  I imagine it's pretty entertaining to watch  ;D   I even do the rapid fire version of the AQT with it.  In fact , now that I think about it, I came within 9 points of rifleman at my very first event shooting my model 60 with tech sights. I didn't come up short because of the rifle. I came up short because of my vision.

Ticks me off when I hear about somebody showing up with their Dad's or Granddad's model 60 and being treated like it's not good enough.  I encourage mag feeds, because it's easier for the shooter, but it's not the end-all.

There goes that mouth of mine again.  :sb: When is somebody going to tell me to just shut up?  And just think.... you guys are going to be stuck in a booth at NRAAM with me for THREE DAYS.  My apologies in advance  >:D >:D

:beer:
Traci

Just to clarify - We're good for camping on the premises, definitely cool for this event.

Come join us on Friday!  We're going to have a bit of fun, what with having a training tourniquet on hand and all.
...with this crowd, I wonder if I need a sign saying "No Tourniquet On Neck", or if that'll just work itself out  ;)

Quote from: AF5US on March 08, 2018, 10:20:27 PM
Go ahead and bring them - better to have too many than not enough.

Not so much "supposed" to stay on the property, but a good number of us are either throwing up tents or laying out cots in the bunk house.  If you can cancel your hotel without penalty you're certainly welcome to join us.

No one is "expected" to make it Friday, but if you can you're very welcome.  It's a chance to get in a little trigger time, go over some common medical issues and how to handle, and just enjoy some good, all-around (mostly) wholesome comradery.  You and I live in the same area - I took a half day off to head down; I realize that not everyone can do that.  If you can't that's fine, just be sure to make it bright and early Saturday.

Quote from: WeaponX on March 08, 2018, 10:04:06 PM
I can bring an AK and an SKS if they are still needed.

Also, I booked a hotel in Waco. Are we supposed to stay there on the property?

And, are the IITs expected to be there Friday evening?

IBC GATE INFORMATION

The gate will be open FRIDAY starting at 4pm, and locked again at about 6:30pm.
That said, we should have someone AT THE CLUB at 2pm, no later than 2:30.

IF YOU NEED IN BEFORE 4pm (and you're not a member  ::))

CALL ME: 713.545.9327 and we'll let you in.

The gate will be open at about 6:45am on Saturday and Sunday -- we'd like to start at 8am, and breakfast starts around 7:15 :)

Quote from: Mrs. Smith on March 08, 2018, 11:58:55 AMWhen I'm on the line with mine, it doesn't slow things down one bit.  I told them next time, they can bring those rifles, and I'll show 'em how it's done.  It's more difficult, but thanks to some advice from Milt and Margie I have zero impact on the flow of the line.  You can ask Ghostring. He's seen me do it.  I imagine it's pretty entertaining to watch  ;D

Would you be up for demonstrating your technique in front of a camera? I'm sure that a lot of instructors would love to see how it's done. YouTube is easy to use. :)

Quote from: Nashville Stage on March 09, 2018, 01:56:37 AM

Quote from: Mrs. Smith on March 08, 2018, 11:58:55 AMWhen I'm on the line with mine, it doesn't slow things down one bit.  I told them next time, they can bring those rifles, and I'll show 'em how it's done.  It's more difficult, but thanks to some advice from Milt and Margie I have zero impact on the flow of the line.  You can ask Ghostring. He's seen me do it.  I imagine it's pretty entertaining to watch  ;D

Would you be up for demonstrating your technique in front of a camera? I'm sure that a lot of instructors would love to see how it's done. YouTube is easy to use. :)

Look at you,  throwing the ball back in my court!  ;D

I never thought about it,  actually.  I can probably do that.  It won't be in time for the IBC, as I'm working the next several days,  but I'll see what I can do. Particularly if there's genuine interest.

Quote from: Mrs. Smith on March 09, 2018, 08:16:58 AM

Quote from: Nashville Stage on March 09, 2018, 01:56:37 AM

Quote from: Mrs. Smith on March 08, 2018, 11:58:55 AMWhen I'm on the line with mine, it doesn't slow things down one bit.  I told them next time, they can bring those rifles, and I'll show 'em how it's done.  It's more difficult, but thanks to some advice from Milt and Margie I have zero impact on the flow of the line.  You can ask Ghostring. He's seen me do it.  I imagine it's pretty entertaining to watch  ;D

Would you be up for demonstrating your technique in front of a camera? I'm sure that a lot of instructors would love to see how it's done. YouTube is easy to use. :)

Look at you,  throwing the ball back in my court!  ;D

I never thought about it,  actually.  I can probably do that.  It won't be in time for the IBC, as I'm working the next several days,  but I'll see what I can do. Particularly if there's genuine interest.

I second Nashville Stage's request.  I'll admit to having some latent anti-tube sentiment, primarily from lack of experience.  Educate me  ;)

I'd planned on coming out today but my truck is still at my friend's shop. It was supposed to be ready yesterday. Should be ready either this evening or tomorrow morning.

Note: Don't loan your main vehicle to your kids. And then they drive it all day with the parking brake on. And then you have to cut off the rear drum with a cutting torch to get to the brake shoes. And buy new drums. Just hope the rear bearing are OK. About to head to the auto parts store here in a few minutes.

I'm amazed at how many people don't know how to use a parking brake.  It's not even a youth issue - people my age even.

Maybe I shouldn't be amazed.  Look how many people don't understand the concept of a turn signal.   **)

See ya tomorrow, buddy.

Quote from: scuzzy on March 09, 2018, 11:12:05 AM
I'd planned on coming out today but my truck is still at my friend's shop. It was supposed to be ready yesterday. Should be ready either this evening or tomorrow morning.

Note: Don't loan your main vehicle to your kids. And then they drive it all day with the parking brake on. And then you have to cut off the rear drum with a cutting torch to get to the brake shoes. And buy new drums. Just hope the rear bearing are OK. About to head to the auto parts store here in a few minutes.

Friends don't let friends use tubed .22s  **) **) **) **)!

Quote from: PaleRider on March 09, 2018, 11:25:22 AM
Friends don't let friends use tubed .22s  **) **) **) **)!

Shush, you! Just cuz YOU can't do it  ::)

Yeah, I can't do the splits either. Doesn't mean I'm gonna try it until I can do it. LOL!

Ruger 10/22:  Txrebel (x3)
Remington 597: Ghostring (x2), Scuzzy (x1)
Marlin 795:  club has tons were good
AR-15:  Txrebel (x3)
Garand: Ghostring (x1), NEED 2 MORE
M1A: Txrebel (x1), AF5US (x1), Tumbleweed (x1)
AK: Txrebel (x1), WeaponX (x1)each, NEED 1 MORE
SKS: Ghostring (x1), WeaponX (x1) NEED 1 MORE

Still a few rifles short. If you know someone coming that hasn't responded please call them

We're golden, folks!
See y'all soon!!

Quote from: TxRebel on March 09, 2018, 07:30:53 PM
Ruger 10/22:  Txrebel (x3)
Remington 597: Ghostring (x2), Scuzzy (x1)
Marlin 795:  club has tons were good
AR-15:  Txrebel (x3)
Garand: Ghostring (x1), NEED 2 MORE
M1A: Txrebel (x1), AF5US (x1), Tumbleweed (x1)
AK: Txrebel (x1), WeaponX (x1)each, NEED 1 MORE
SKS: Ghostring (x1), WeaponX (x1) NEED 1 MORE

Still a few rifles short. If you know someone coming that hasn't responded please call them

Sorry all - I'd thought I could make it but didn't know if weekend would end up free of work until quite late Friday. When I saw sign up was closed I just took it for what it was and planned weekend with daughters  instead. Will do my best to make a Waco shoot soon.