Plans are in the works for the Virginia High Power Rifle team (winners of the Infantry Team Trophy for 2014 with a new National Record) to teach a 2 day Clinic at Cavalier Rifle and Pistol Club this Spring. Dates are still being considered. If you are interested, please contact me.
The clinic will run all day both Saturday and Sunday and the Instructor to student ration will be 1 instructor per every 2 shooters.
Mike
Oh boy, am I ever. Spring - as we schedule Appleseeds for RRPC and Cavalier, let's be sure not to conflict with this.
It definitely won't conflict with Cavalier. The preliminary dates are March 7-8. When I have the rest of the information, I will post it here.
The Virginia Team in action, 600 yardline, 2014 Infantry Team Trophy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_WwFR354BuY
The clinic is scheduled for March 7-8, 2015. Right now the cost is set to be $65.
Camping will be available for Friday and Saturday nights, but I need friday night campers to contact me to arrange entrance.
Mike
Feel free to email me at jmdavis45@gmail.com for more information.
Mike,
Please count me in, I'll bring my camper.
R/
Chris
As of now we will be able to offer ammo for the clinic (100 rounds) for $40 for both .223 and .30-06. We also have some club rifles (AR or M1) available for those who would like to use them for an additional $5 ($45 for ammo and rifle for the clinic).
The amount of jealous I am is overwhelming. Y'all have fun out there.
Can I come ? Pretty please ..:..
Anyone can come to the clinic. Registration should open in a week or two. It will be held at Cavalier Rifle and Pistol Club in Montpelier VA.
The clinic will be conducted on the 100 yard range.
Mike
Attached is the program for the weekend. If you want to attend you can email me (jmdavis45@gmail.com). If you need to camp on Friday night, you must contact me before hand so I can arrange to meet you at the gate.
Mike,
Looks like this is going to be an awesome clinic! Has registration opened yet?
R/
Chris
Howdy.
First post on this board for me.
I'm Gary J., a corporate officer with VFEMI.
Here's the run-down of the event:
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National Match Service Rifle Class
INTRODUCTION TO COMPETITION with the SERVICE RIFLE
SPONSORED BY VIRGINIA FIREARMS EDUCATION AND MARKSMANSHIP, INC. (VFEMI)
INSTRUCTORS
Head Coach Jim Morgan and members of the VFEMI HIGHPOWER RIFLE TEAM
OBJECTIVE
Familiarize shooters with the National Match competitive shooting discipline for highpower service rifle.
Upon completion of this course, a shooter will be well-educated on the format and methods of service rifle competition.
INTENDED AUDIENCE
The primary audience for this event is shooters with little or no prior experience shooting service rifle in the National Match format.
Experienced National Match shooters are also welcome.
Attendees must be of sufficient size and strength to fire a service rifle from the offhand position without external support.
This course is not recommended for persons who have no previous experience operating firearms. This is not a basic safety and familiarization course.
DATES AND DURATION
Two-day event, Saturday March 7 and Sunday March 8
8:00 A.M. Mid- or late afternoon both days.
LOCATION
Cavalier Rifle and Pistol Club
Written driving directions appear at the bottom of this post.
Google Maps location: https://www.google.com/maps/place/37%C2%B047'31.4%22N+77%C2%B046'05.0%22W/@37.790896,-77.767689,16z/data=!4m2!3m1!1s0x0:0x0?hl=en
REGISTRATION
Pre-Registration is recommended and is limited to range capacity.
Unregistered participants will be registered only on a space-available basis on the day of the event.
You may pre-register by contacting Jim Morgan at XMORGAN@HOTMAIL.COM or 540-775-5204
General information about Caliver Rifle and Pistol Club is available from Mike Davis jmdavis45@gmail.com
COST:
$65.00 (includes course materials and one-year VFEMI Membership)
LOANER EQUIPMENT AVAILABLE
Equipment available for students of the course:
Rifle and Ammo: $45.00
Ammo Only: 100 rounds ($40.00)
Please communicate your equipment needs to Jim Morgan at the time of your pre-registration.
The quantity of loaner equipment is limited, and is subject to first-come requests.
PERSONAL EQUIPMENT PERMITTED
Students may shoot their own rifles and their own ammo.
If shooting your own rifle, please bring 100 rounds of functional ammunition.
Unless you are absolutely sure your rifle will tolerate steel-case ammunition, steel-case ammunition is NOT recommended for this event.
Students should have a "basic zero" (be able to hit a 24" x 24" target at 100 yards) for their rifle PRIOR TO this course.
If you do not already have a basic zero for your rifle, coaches will attempt to help you obtain that zero, but such activities will diminish time available for training in the intended courses of fire.
If the student has a rifle that requires a specialized sight-adjustment tool, it is the responsibility of the student to furnish that tool.
GOOD EXAMPLES OF A "SERVICE RIFLE"
Personal rifles should be suitable for service rifle competition.
AR15 with iron sights
M1A or M14
M1 Garand
1903 Springfield
ALTERNATE SUITABLE RIFLES
At a miniumum, shooters will need a repeating rifle that is capable of either holding a magazine of at least 5 rounds, or which has an internal magazine that can be loaded from an open bolt.
Please bring at least 2 magazines capable of holding 5 rounds of ammo for the rifle you will bring to the clinic.
Please bring at least two stripper-clips if you are firing a rifle that uses stripper-clips for loading.
USE OF OPTICAL SIGHTS
Rifles with optical sights are permitted for this event.
However, shooters will learn more from this program if iron sights are used.
National Match type highpower rifle competition, with one minor exception, requires the use of iron sights.
RECOMMENDED PERSONAL ACCESSORIES
Adjustable sling that attaches to the front and rear of the rifle in order to use as an aid in supporting the rifle while in the sitting and prone position.
An adjustable military-type sling is recommended.
The proper use of a military-type sling will be a featured part of the clinic as a sling is the only form of support permitted during any portion of a regular match.
Spotting scope or optic: Some sort of telescopic deivice will allow you to see your bullet holes at 100 yards. Typically, a 15x+ power scope is sufficient to see holes at 100 yds. Optimally, a spotting scope on a stand would work best, but a rifle mounted optic or hand held optic will also work for the purposes of this particular event.
Shooting mat to use for the sitting and prone position. The surface of the firing line is gravel. The "shooting mat" may support and protect your body. The mat may not support the rifle.
Heavy glove to be worn on the non-trigger hand. This will provide padding between the sling and the hand. Use of a tight sling without a glove is usually uncomfortable.
Rain gear - if you have it, bring it. The firing point is covered, but the ground may be wet, and the event will require shooters to walk downrange to score and repair targets even if is raining.
Handwarmers - the air-activated type that are sold at sporting goods stores are extremely helpful on winter days. This is the best piece of equipment that everybody forgets.
Waterproof footwear is recommended.
Pen, paper or device for note-taking.
DISALLOWED EQUIPMENT
Sandbags, bipods, and other forms of "external support" are not permitted for service rifle competition.
.22 rimfire is not suitable for this event.
Any caliber larger than .33 is disallowed for competition under NRA rules.
"Single-point" tactical slings are not suitable.
EAR PROTECTION
Ear protection is mandatory.
Please bring effective ear protection.
EXCESSIVELY-LOUD MUZZLE-BRAKES
Especially loud, obnoxious, blasty-type muzzle blast amplifiers are specifically forbidden for NRA and CMP competition per NRA rule: 3.16.1.
If your rifle is equipped with such a device, it may not be grounds for disqualification from this event per se, depending on the severity of the back-blast generated.
If you have a choice between two rifles, and one of them has a muzzle brake that loosens teeth-fillings and pummels the sinuses on shooters on both sides of you, and which aggravates everybody on the firing line, you already know you are THAT GUY.
Don't be THAT GUY.
Please bring your OTHER rifle that does not punish the shooters and coaches alongside you.
Common "birdcage" type muzzle devices such as the "A2" version on an AR15, and the slotted M14 flash suppressor, do not generate excessive side-blast toward other shooters, and are legal muzzle devices for NRA and CMP competitions.
EYE PROTECTION
Eye protection is not mandatory under rules of NRA, CMP, or Cavailer Rifle and Pistol Club.
However VFEMI strongly encourages shooters to wear eye protection at all times while on the range.
Shooters should be aware that many ranges have "club rules" that do require the use of eye protection for highpower rifle competitors. Get used to wearing it.
ATTIRE
The first day of the course may be spent entirely in the classrooom.
Do not over-dress for day 1, but please bring sufficient warm clothing in the event that a portion of the Day 1 program is held outdoors.
The second day of the course will be spent entirely outdoors. Take note of the season. Bring enough clothes keep you warm outdoors in severely cold weather for several hours.
FOOD
Bring your own lunch and beverages.
Meals and beverages are not included in the entry fee.
Commercial food service is not available at the site.
There is not time allotted in the program for participants to leave the facility to obtain lunch off-site.
RULEBOOKS FOR THE SPORT
Relevant rulebook materials describing this form of competition are at:
http://compete.nra.org/documents/pdf/compete/RuleBooks/HPR/hpr-book.pdf
and
http://thecmp.org/wp-content/uploads/Rulebook1.pdf
INCLEMENT WEATHER POLICY
Event will occur rain-or-shine.
Severe ice conditions may cause abbreviated training, postponement, or cancellation.
PROGRAM OVERVIEW
DAY 1
0800 WELCOME, INTRODUCTIONS, OVERVIEW
SAFETY RULES; GENERAL
SAFETY RULES; RANGE
0900 DUTIES OF THE SHOOTER; SCORER; TARGET PULLER
1000 BASIC SHOOTING TECHNIQUES
1100 PERSONAL CONDITIONING
1200 LUNCH
1300 DATA BOOK; CALLING THE SHOT/PLOTTING THE
SHOT, ZEROING THE RIFLE.
1400 ON THE RANGE -
POSITION DEVELOPMENT and ZEROS
10 rds - Standing; 3 sets of 3 - Sitting/Prone Rapid;
10 - Prone Slow ( 40 Rds.)
PROGRAM OVERVIEW
DAY 2
0800 ASSEMBLE ON THE RANGE; HANG TARGETS, How to put the sling on the rifle and use; Will shoot a 60-shot course of fire
2 relay format (if required)
0900 First shot down range
1500 Clean up range,
1530 CLASS ROOM (after we complete shooting and range clean up)
EFFECTS OF THE ENVIRONMENT
1600 GOALS AND GOAL SETTING
1630 INTEGRATED ACT OF SHOOTING
Directions
from I64:
Take exit 167, take route 617 north, take 3rd left onto 617, 617 will merge with 611, bear right and continue on 617. At stop sign you will see a store (3 way stop), turn left onto 617. 617 dead ends at 610, turn left and follow 610 until you pass Hopeful Church. Turn left on Boondock lane.
just before you get to the Louisa Co. line.
from Ashland:
Take Route 54 to Montpelior (Route 33). Turn right. Go west on Route 33 for a short distance, turn left on Route 610. Stay on 610 until you pass Hopeful Church. Turn left onto Boondock Lane.
from Harrisonburg:
Take Route 33 to Route 664. Turn right onto 664. It is called Hopeful Church Road. Follow 664 until you hit Route 610 at Hopeful Church. Turn right onto 610 west, then left onto Boondock Lane.
** Please observe the 10 mph speed limit on Boondock Lane and the range road. **
Google Maps location: https://www.google.com/maps/place/37%C2%B047'31.4%22N+77%C2%B046'05.0%22W/@37.790896,-77.767689,16z/data=!4m2!3m1!1s0x0:0x0?hl=en
Hey, uh, Chris-
Did you see this?
Quote from: W.E.G. on December 05, 2014, 07:16:29 PM
EXCESSIVELY-LOUD MUZZLE-BRAKES
Especially loud, obnoxious, blasty-type muzzle blast amplifiers are specifically forbidden for NRA and CMP competition per NRA rule: 3.16.1.
If your rifle is equipped with such a device, it may not be grounds for disqualification from this event per se, depending on the severity of the back-blast generated.
If you have a choice between two rifles, and one of them has a muzzle brake that loosens teeth-fillings and pummels the sinuses on shooters on both sides of you, and which aggravates everybody on the firing line, you already know you are THAT GUY.
Don't be THAT GUY.
Please bring your OTHER rifle that does not punish the shooters and coaches alongside you.
Common "birdcage" type muzzle devices such as the "A2" version on an AR15, and the slotted M14 flash suppressor, do not generate excessive side-blast toward other shooters, and are legal muzzle devices for NRA and CMP competitions.
Don't be THAT GUY.Just sayin' ::)
Hmmm...might need to talk to the boss about this one...
Day 1 - What does "Personal Conditioning" mean?
Monkey,
I would make an assumption that "personal conditioning" would be physical exercise, diet and possibly mental training.
Think stretches and such.
R/
Chris
Quote from: navybowhunter on December 09, 2014, 09:02:58 AM
Monkey,
I would make an assumption that "personal conditioning" would be physical exercise, diet and possibly mental training.
Think stretches and such.
R/
Chris
Uh oh...smells like yoga to me...this may get ugly!
Hope to see you on the line Monkey, I'm registered! Looking forward to this!
R/
Chris
We took the plunge - we're in.
It's late, I've been up since 0300, and I might be missing something, but:
- If I read the syllabus correctly, we are firing 100 rounds for the weekend, so in 6 hours on Day 2, we're firing 60 rounds? Seems kinda light, but I'm probably used to the Appleseed model of "Day-2-Ready-Set-GO!".
This will definitely be a good time. Really looking forward to it. And to seeing Chris in yoga pants for Personal Conditioning.
[You're welcome. Pick up your eye bleach by the door on the way out.]
Quote from: Monkey on December 10, 2014, 10:11:17 PM
This will definitely be a good time. Really looking forward to it. And to seeing Chris in yoga pants for Personal Conditioning.
PLEASE tell me AMHLDO didn't tell you all my "yoga pants" story!
Look forward to seeing you at the clinic. Round count is a lot lighter than a typical Appleseed event, but I'm sure we will all learn ALOT!~
R/
Chris
Looks like the CMP moved the link for the CMP COMPETITION RULES FOR SERVICE RIFLE AND SERVICE PISTOL 18th Edition--2014-2015.
Folks reporting a 404 error for the link in the OP.
Try this:
I uploaded it to Google.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2hkfoL4OoEfYllnMU9VbTFqTHM/view?usp=sharing
VFEMI held a workshop and team meeting today. If you are interested in shooting this clinic, I would not wait to sign up. Coaching from the National ITT championship team is not something that you can find every day.
If you have questions please let me know.
Mike
Mr. Huzzah, ad Lil' Monkey likes to call you, Chris. I am so looking forward to some yoga pants stories during this clinic. Monkey doesn't own any, but it can be arranged to make you feel more comfortable if you'd like.
Danielle
If it helps you shoot better, do it!
Wait - who is wearing the yoga pants? If it's Chris, I'm bringing some eye bleach.
I just signed up!
I'm in too! Looking forward to 16 hours of instruction of improving my shootings!
:---
Looks like there will be a lot of familiar faces out at Cavalier.
Yoga Pants, are sort of like the suggested sweat shirt under the shooting jacket. They will help with the "pulse".
Yes, I just wrote that!
Quote from: navybowhunter on January 20, 2015, 09:01:28 AM
Yoga Pants, are sort of like the suggested sweat shirt under the shooting jacket. They will help with the "pulse".
Yes, I just wrote that!
Actually, there is some truth to the idea that loose pants can help with pulse.
I'm interested, but I'm unclear about the KD for the selected range.
Is this all done at a single distance (e.g., 100yds) with reduced centers?
Also, where can I find yoga pants?
PG (Andy)
The clinic will be shot at 100 yards with Sunday being a reduced distance National Match Course.
For infomation the targets will be the SR1, SR21, and MR1 targets. Each of these has a bullseye between 5.75 and 6.38 inches in size but with the 9,10,X rings in the SR1 bull, the 8,9,10,X rings in the sr21 bull and the 7,8,9,10,X rings in the MR31 bull.
Quote from: jmdavis on January 20, 2015, 01:49:54 PM
Quote from: navybowhunter on January 20, 2015, 09:01:28 AM
Yoga Pants, are sort of like the suggested sweat shirt under the shooting jacket. They will help with the "pulse".
Yes, I just wrote that!
Actually, there is some truth to the idea that loose pants can help with pulse.
I wear my tactical kilt to Highpower matches from time to time. :))
Quote from: Agrivere on January 22, 2015, 11:46:00 PM
Quote from: jmdavis on January 20, 2015, 01:49:54 PM
Quote from: navybowhunter on January 20, 2015, 09:01:28 AM
Yoga Pants, are sort of like the suggested sweat shirt under the shooting jacket. They will help with the "pulse".
Yes, I just wrote that!
Actually, there is some truth to the idea that loose pants can help with pulse.
TMI, actually it is WTMI
I wear my tactical kilt to Highpower matches from time to time. :))
Weather is looking pretty good for next weekend. Highs in the 40's and 50's and lows in the high 20's and 30's. Several Cavalier and VFEMI members and I will be building targets on Monday to get ready for the event. We will then, use those targets over the course of the year a few at a time on the ranges. 30 will give us enough to get through the year as people shoot them up.
Isn't it funny how some people can't hit a 6 inch bull at 100 or a 13 inch at 200 but they can hit a 1.5 inch 2x4? I have never understood that.
This clinic is an opportunity to improve your shooting. It is targeted toward those interested in competitive marksmanship. But the lessons apply to rifle marksmanship in general. Alvin York believed that known distance marksmanship in competition was one of the best ways one could improve his shooting. Gunny Hathcock told me almost the same thing back in the 90's. I really wish that I had listened better and taken his advice then rather than waiting more than a decade.
Mike
Mike
Thanks Mike / Jmdavis for making this a reality. Count on several MD folk arriving with an open mind.
See ya Friday evening with "The Beast".
R/
Chris
I'm looking forward to this training. Yesterday, I zeroed my AR @ 100 yards at Elite shooting sports, and noticed the groups at 100 yards are much bigger than at 25 yards. I was getting at least 1 round in the red bull, and the rest in the black. Hopefully this class will help me decrease this group size with ball ammo.
Ball ammo is not a real issue at 100 yards. Don't worry about that. Many clean scores have been shot reduced course with ball.
I really regret that I can't make it to this one.
My work schedule just blew up in my face. Won't be making this after all.
:wb: :( !@#)
That's too bad. Make sure that you shoot a note to Jim Morgan to let him know.
I did, just before posting.
Got the schedule though - would definitely like to see if I at least would enjoy service rifle competition, if I can get my life to slow down a little bit...
C'est la guerre...
Quote from: Monkey on March 02, 2015, 08:19:48 PM
C'est la guerre...
J'espere vraiment que non - ce n'est pas la guerre.
That ain't funny these days.
Quote from: Monkey on March 02, 2015, 08:19:48 PM
I did, just before posting.
Got the schedule though - would definitely like to see if I at least would enjoy service rifle competition, if I can get my life to slow down a little bit...
C'est la guerre...
It's that time of the career. It would be wild if you could put together a small command team for the fleet matches. But I have the feeling that amount of time is out of the question. For the past couple of years there have been some guys that came from the Bainbridge. I know they were there in 13, I think they were there in 14 as well.
Mike
From: James morgan [mailto:xmorgan@hotmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2015 12:46 PM
Subject: Service Rifle Clinic
Hey Shooters,
Well, the forecasters can not make up their minds for the weather in this area for the weekend. Instead of the 60 degree today and 40s - 50s this weekend this weekend, NOW they want 8 inches of snow. Our best (heaviest) snows come from the southwest and it looks like the front building in the Gulf will be turning northeast by tomorrow. If the forecasters are anywhere close we will have 5 - 8 inches. This will not present any problems traveling on the primary roads; !-95 - etc.. However, the odds are that the secondary roads will still be difficult come Saturday morning. Add to that, the road into the range (1 mileish) will not be cleared for general vehicles.
I know, my preference would be for clear weather but that is not the case. We are canceling the clinic for March 7/8 due to predicted weather conditions. We will reschedule the clinic for August time frame; possibility the second or third weekend -- depending on Cavalier's schedule. I will keep all of your information and send an email when the dates are approved. Thank you for your interest and am looking forward to making this happen.
jim morgan
Quick Bump - August isn't too far around the corner, and my dance card is starting to get full.
Has a date been locked down for this yet?
Not for nothing, I could use all the help I could get prior to Camp Perry
The option had been set for the third weekend of the month since Range 1 is usually available. Appleseed has already got August, September and October. Holding your breath might be a tad hazardous. I do hope it gets rescheduled, though.
I will speak to Jim and see what is happening. Right now the team is very focused on the Infantry trophy team match and the national trophy team match at camp perry.
The second weekend in sept might be a possibility for this falls.
Can you add me to the contact list for the Hi-Power clinic.
I'm in central NC but would like to come up to VA when you
settle on dates.
Dave
Dave,
The revised info will be posted here and on other similar sites when it is available. There really isn't a contact list at this point.
Mike Davis
Mike,
Ok
I'll keep an eye on this thread
Thx
Dave
We are in the process of rescheduling the High Power Clinic and Cavalier Rifle and Pistol Club. The dates being considered are Oct 24-25 (the weekend after the Appleseed at the same location). Instructors will include shooters and coaches from the 2014 National Infantry Team Trophy team fielded by Virginia Firearms Education and Marksmanship Instruction's Virginia Rifle Team.
Stand by for more information as dates are finalized.
Mike Davis
Bump - still tracking for Oct 24-25?
No joy this year. Cavalier is unable to schedule Range 1 due to the construction on the dams that makes range 5 unavailable mon-fri. There is also construction and range closures at Rivana this fall. So the new date will be spring 2016 keep your fingers crossed for no snow in March.