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Title: KD AQTs at Red Brush THIS WEEKEND (Impromptu Instructor KD Day)
Post by: SPQR on October 17, 2013, 11:29:01 AM
Alright, here is the lowdown.

Mudcat has secured the 500 yard range at Red Brush in Evansville for Saturday.  We can occupy the range Friday night.  Camping is available.

I still have the D centers, pasters, radios and glue from the forlorn Atterbury debacle, so we are good to go on that front.  Everyone is welcome.  I see no reason why, at this point, we shouldn't invite friends and family that are competent marksmen as well to share the fun as long as they aren't goofballs and can keep up.

I am guessing that AB will probably stay north (though it would be awesome if they made it) so I will move into the SB position and Mudcat will run the line with me.  Since we just have it for the day I reckon we will just streamline it, keep instruction to a minimum, and just get comeups and shoot AQTs.  If folks show up sorted out I see no reason why we cannot comfortably get comeups for everyone and shoot 3 or 4 AQTs.  In addition, I suspect a large dinner somewhere with screaming, yelling, and accusations will round out the evening.

Respond here so we can get an idea for numbers.

huff

(PS- No, the ammo will not be free.  Brown and I discussed it and he feels that it would not be in good faith to use it outside of Atterbury.  CJ wanted to donate the ammo as soon as he saw our operation in June and we stated that it would be used by instructors at the base.  Brown is going to sit on it until we can get a reschedule date for CAJMTC)   
Title: Re: KD AQTs at Red Brush THIS WEEKEND (Impromptu Instructor KD Day)
Post by: spitfire51 on October 17, 2013, 11:49:53 AM
First of all, let's all give a big thanks to Mudcat for being able to throw this together at the last minute and salvage something out of the weekend.

I'm in, and as I said on the other thread anyone in the Indy area that wants to go I will be happy to carpool with.  Or I can pick someone up on my way south.

Do we need backers for the targets?  As I recall the range had 2x4 frames in the pits but that was it.
Title: Re: KD AQTs at Red Brush THIS WEEKEND (Impromptu Instructor KD Day)
Post by: SPQR on October 17, 2013, 11:57:41 AM
I don't know the answer to that.  Mudcat may need to respond.  I have some backer foam that is nearing retirement that may do the job.  I also have large paper to cover it so we can mark hits outside the D center.
Title: Re: KD AQTs at Red Brush THIS WEEKEND (Impromptu Instructor KD Day)
Post by: Uncle Davey on October 17, 2013, 12:04:06 PM
I'm in ..just for Saturday right?
Title: Re: KD AQTs at Red Brush THIS WEEKEND (Impromptu Instructor KD Day)
Post by: brianheeter on October 17, 2013, 12:24:20 PM
I'm in.
Title: Re: KD AQTs at Red Brush THIS WEEKEND (Impromptu Instructor KD Day)
Post by: Mudcat on October 17, 2013, 12:29:51 PM
I am off tomorrow I will get to the range in the morning to check and see abut the backers. I have lots of new cardboard I can use. I will try to get everything ready so we just walk on Saturday am and shoot.
I had to pull some strings to get this I hope we can make a good showing to let them know we do appreciate it.
Title: Re: KD AQTs at Red Brush THIS WEEKEND (Impromptu Instructor KD Day)
Post by: techres on October 17, 2013, 12:47:41 PM
I am in if I can catch a ride down.  Saturday only.
Title: Re: KD AQTs at Red Brush THIS WEEKEND (Impromptu Instructor KD Day)
Post by: Rayne on October 17, 2013, 12:54:22 PM
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Title: Re: KD AQTs at Red Brush THIS WEEKEND (Impromptu Instructor KD Day)
Post by: brianheeter on October 17, 2013, 01:02:47 PM
I will share my ammo with Kate until I run out.  If I remember I've got around 200 rounds of PMC 223A and 200 rounds of M855.  We'll shoot 'til it's gone.  :~

brian
Title: Re: KD AQTs at Red Brush THIS WEEKEND (Impromptu Instructor KD Day)
Post by: philagothon on October 17, 2013, 01:04:50 PM
I'm in. I'm looking to carpool too.  We can take my truck.  The cab will fit four adults and the bed should hold our gear.  If someone has a more fuel efficient ride, I'm happy to be a passenger (mine only gets ~15mpg).  I'm flexible on leave and get home times.

ETA: I'm also definitely good with camping Friday and/or Saturday.
Title: Re: KD AQTs at Red Brush THIS WEEKEND (Impromptu Instructor KD Day)
Post by: kate on October 17, 2013, 01:08:57 PM
I'm in, too. If I can buy anybody's extra ammo off of them, that would be great. I am currently in Hope, IN and that's the opposite direction for Rayne to pick me up. If anyone is close to Hope or passing through, can I carpool?

-kate
Title: Re: KD AQTs at Red Brush THIS WEEKEND (Impromptu Instructor KD Day)
Post by: SPQR on October 17, 2013, 01:09:42 PM
get Kate down there and I am sure we will have ammo for her.

Right now it looks like we have at least a dozen counting the BC locals who have not responded.  I would love it if we could get 18 or 20 on the line.  Mudcat do you think the range would call that a good showing?

Title: Re: KD AQTs at Red Brush THIS WEEKEND (Impromptu Instructor KD Day)
Post by: RifleBen on October 17, 2013, 01:30:26 PM
I will probably be there. As I am about 4 hours away, I'd like to camp Friday night. I could do that, right? My young legs would be glad to help set up targets, backers, etc.
Title: Re: KD AQTs at Red Brush THIS WEEKEND (Impromptu Instructor KD Day)
Post by: Rayne on October 17, 2013, 01:33:00 PM
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Title: Re: KD AQTs at Red Brush THIS WEEKEND (Impromptu Instructor KD Day)
Post by: redbaron on October 17, 2013, 01:55:44 PM
Yes, Red Brush is on CST. It looks like sunrise for Saturday is 7:03am.

Unfortunately for me, I am out. For the same reason I couldn't make Atterbury, someone has to watch the kids this weekend and I've already made plans to do something with them. I hate to miss it as I thoroughly enjoyed the March KD event. You guys have fun.

Mudcat, if you need any help tomorrow morning, let me know.
Title: Re: KD AQTs at Red Brush THIS WEEKEND (Impromptu Instructor KD Day)
Post by: Mudcat on October 17, 2013, 02:37:19 PM
Sunrise 0700 sunset 1810. We are in central time.
Friday night camping is great, I will be there and can probably use some help. I will bring firewood.
Title: Re: KD AQTs at Red Brush THIS WEEKEND (Impromptu Instructor KD Day)
Post by: Uncle Davey on October 17, 2013, 02:48:58 PM
I'm in..going down Fri.if anyone needs a ride ..I can take one
Title: Re: KD AQTs at Red Brush THIS WEEKEND (Impromptu Instructor KD Day)
Post by: techres on October 17, 2013, 04:05:18 PM
I have foam for backers if needed and the usual stands.
I have steel if desired.
Title: Re: KD AQTs at Red Brush THIS WEEKEND (Impromptu Instructor KD Day)
Post by: grunt soldier on October 17, 2013, 05:26:59 PM
Man I want to come to this so bad but I would have to be back on saturday night for sure. 
Title: Re: KD AQTs at Red Brush THIS WEEKEND (Impromptu Instructor KD Day)
Post by: Rayne on October 17, 2013, 05:31:58 PM
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Title: Re: KD AQTs at Red Brush THIS WEEKEND (Impromptu Instructor KD Day)
Post by: Unbridled Liberty on October 17, 2013, 05:50:32 PM
Thanks for setting this up Mudcat, but I will see y'all next time at Atterbury.  Have fun and shoot straight.   O0

UL
Title: Re: KD AQTs at Red Brush THIS WEEKEND (Impromptu Instructor KD Day)
Post by: Mudcat on October 17, 2013, 07:37:40 PM
I will be at the range tomorrow all day so I may not be on line often. If anyone has any question please feel free to give me a call tomorrow anytime. Tonight I am in class until 10:00 though. My number is 812 431 4087 call or text either one.  PMs on here are a pain to reply to from my phone so it may take me a while to get back via PM.

I will let SPQR give the start time but after we get in and I lock the gate it will be a delay for me to come back up and unlock the gate so please be on time or call to let me know you are running late. I think that is nicer than AJ says it lol. If you are coming in Friday evening let me know what time so I can be up around the gate you may have to give me a call though.

I know everyone is bummed as I was that we got canceled at Atterbury, but such is the luck when you deal with the government. I was finally going to make it to the famed Atterbury as a civilian, I have shot up there while in the NG. I was not looking forward to the full porta pots though. What I was looking forward to the most was the fellowship with my fellow instructors and sending lead down range.
  When I heard the event had been canceled I got on the phone to our club president and told him of our situation. He was sympathetic to our cause and said he would do what he could. Mike is a big supporter of Appleseed and was even a guest writer for Fred's column in Shotgun news a while back. I also called some of the board members to let them know a call from Mike may be forthcoming and to explain it myself to a few of them. Mike called me back this morning to let me know that we were good to go on at least Saturday, Sunday is still a possibility. I just do not have confirmation on it yet.

I knew we had 37 people to go shoot some KD earlier and that is what I told Mike. I knew some of the ones who were coming from the great north probably would not make it. I did hope that the ones from the southern part and central would show though. I have rounded up a few to cover the missing ones I hope. But we have to remember what we were going to do get together, visit with friends, laugh at SPQR, get a few classes and shoot some KD. We are still going to get together with friends, laugh at SPQR, get some learn'n, and shoot some KD. The only thing that has changed is the location, We still have 500 yards, pits, camping, room for 20 on the line. No free ammo, but really? Does free ammo make that much difference?

If ya can't make it that is cool, we will see you next time. But some of us are going to be shooting some KD and having fun, I hope you come join us. If you miss the big guns firing at night we have a train that parks close and the air compressor kind of sounds like a M2 50 cal in the distance.  :---

Not directed at anyone in general and I know it is a good possibility it will just be a 1 day event. But we will be shooting KD and that beats watching football any day.
Title: Re: KD AQTs at Red Brush THIS WEEKEND (Impromptu Instructor KD Day)
Post by: Mudcat on October 17, 2013, 07:54:12 PM
Information on the range and directions for that have not been before.  There is a $10 range fee too, forgot to mention that. 
http://redbrush.org/ (http://redbrush.org/)
Title: Re: KD AQTs at Red Brush THIS WEEKEND (Impromptu Instructor KD Day)
Post by: techres on October 17, 2013, 08:59:10 PM
Quote from: grunt soldier on October 17, 2013, 05:26:59 PM
Man I want to come to this so bad but I would have to be back on saturday night for sure.

Oh, you bet.  I have to be back before sunup on Sunday.  Most of us do.  Sure, there might be some after dark tracer fire and such - but come a reasonable hour most of us have to head back and get on home.
Title: Re: KD AQTs at Red Brush THIS WEEKEND (Impromptu Instructor KD Day)
Post by: grunt soldier on October 17, 2013, 10:11:32 PM
a hour away drive on saturday I can explain to the PREGNANT WIFE.  a 2 day trip. well not so much.  I'll make you folks a deal.  you handle the crazy hormones for the next week and I'll take the heat for coming that way lol.  she was ok with Saturday a hour away shooting but the night before and the next day ect she is already complaining and extra annoying :) 

Real talk I may need to go back to Afghanistan to avoid the hormones again :)  I hope yall have a great shoot but it's not looking good for the home team here.  19 weeks and counting it down. 
Title: Re: KD AQTs at Red Brush THIS WEEKEND (Impromptu Instructor KD Day)
Post by: Rayne on October 17, 2013, 10:18:19 PM
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Title: Re: KD AQTs at Red Brush THIS WEEKEND (Impromptu Instructor KD Day)
Post by: brianheeter on October 17, 2013, 10:21:30 PM
If grunt soldier shows up then his wife will be disgruntled?  Makes perfect sense....
Title: Re: KD AQTs at Red Brush THIS WEEKEND (Impromptu Instructor KD Day)
Post by: techres on October 17, 2013, 10:21:49 PM
Pregnancy:  The miracle that takes you back the school days ("duck & cover").

(http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3709/10337677975_b6d50a7fec_o.gif)

Been there, done that, hang tight.  We'll be thinking of you.
Title: Re: KD AQTs at Red Brush THIS WEEKEND (Impromptu Instructor KD Day)
Post by: Pup on October 17, 2013, 10:28:22 PM
I will be there and will have enough ammo to sponsor an AQT for Kate.  I hope to make it out for a bit on Friday afternoon Mudcat.  I will be in early on Saturday to help also.

Title: Re: KD AQTs at Red Brush THIS WEEKEND (Impromptu Instructor KD Day)
Post by: RBKL on October 17, 2013, 10:42:07 PM
We (The Nailer & RBKL) will be there.
Title: Re: KD AQTs at Red Brush THIS WEEKEND (Impromptu Instructor KD Day)
Post by: grunt soldier on October 17, 2013, 11:02:31 PM
Lol this is my first time dealing with this craziness that is pregnant hormones.  the first go round I spent all but the first 2 months of it in Afghanistan.  It worked out well for me minus I didn't get to see my little princess until she was 3 months and some change old. 

I'm thinking the average woman I might could handle  her preggers hormones.  however my Italian wife is a bit different.  she is fully out of freaking control.  it's serious bidness out here in my neck of the woods lol.  I told her today it might be better if I just went back to Afghanistan for the next 6 months.  she didn't appreciate that idea. 

Now that being said it was a 2 day event when I explained it.  If I can roll out saturday morning early enough she is still aslepp who knows what possibilities I can make happen. 

What time are you leaving Mrs Rayne?  I need come up's for my new rifle any who.
Title: Re: KD AQTs at Red Brush THIS WEEKEND (Impromptu Instructor KD Day)
Post by: SPQR on October 17, 2013, 11:38:31 PM
Headin down tomorrow night. Will be campin. Bringin small pot of potato soup and a pot of chili.  Mudcat I will get with you tomorrow on our eta.

What do we need in the way of backers? I have targets and paper.

Heeter and Rayne and Spitfire can you coordinate transport for Kate and Techres? Looks like we have plenty of ammo for kate. Josh is down a cat and needs wheels.

Tater and S2S are in.  Ain't heard from JSW yet but it wouldn't shock me if he showed up in a plume of black smoke. 
Title: Re: KD AQTs at Red Brush THIS WEEKEND (Impromptu Instructor KD Day)
Post by: techres on October 18, 2013, 12:01:20 AM
Down a car, not a cat.  I would LOVE to be down a cat but life is what it is.

Any of you heading through in the early hours of Saturday?

Title: Re: KD AQTs at Red Brush THIS WEEKEND (Impromptu Instructor KD Day)
Post by: hawkhavn on October 18, 2013, 12:02:04 AM
SPQR PM sent to you in re: backers and some other 'stuff'.
I'm off tomorrow and could swing it by your place.

HH
Title: Re: KD AQTs at Red Brush THIS WEEKEND (Impromptu Instructor KD Day)
Post by: Mudcat on October 18, 2013, 12:07:53 AM
I will have wood and a fire pit. May make some Jambalia or red beans and rice if I get a chance tomorrow though not too likely.

I am not sure on backers. But I have many new pieces of cardboard that are 3' by 10' or so. Should work out for backers, in my mind anyway.
Title: Re: KD AQTs at Red Brush THIS WEEKEND (Impromptu Instructor KD Day)
Post by: Rayne on October 18, 2013, 12:16:14 AM
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Title: Re: KD AQTs at Red Brush THIS WEEKEND (Impromptu Instructor KD Day)
Post by: spitfire51 on October 18, 2013, 12:24:18 AM
Huff do you know roughly what time you're going to be there tomorrow night?
Title: Re: KD AQTs at Red Brush THIS WEEKEND (Impromptu Instructor KD Day)
Post by: Mudcat on October 18, 2013, 12:27:39 AM
THe mini van is the original urban assault vehicle, lots of room for guns and ammo. If it gets real bad just rip a hole in the roof install agunner and you are ready anything Bedford or Bloomington can throw your way.

Grunt I left the country after I found out my wifey was pregnant too. Came back when he was 6 months old. There is a lot that can be said for that. Just sayin.
Title: Re: KD AQTs at Red Brush THIS WEEKEND (Impromptu Instructor KD Day)
Post by: grunt soldier on October 18, 2013, 12:42:03 AM
Lol mudcat after tonight's episode I'm ready to roll for a few months at least lol!  I'm working on my ride right now. It's hopeful for sure! 
Title: Re: KD AQTs at Red Brush THIS WEEKEND (Impromptu Instructor KD Day)
Post by: philagothon on October 18, 2013, 12:51:08 AM
What are the chances we'll have the range for Sunday as well? I had planned to spend my entire weekend at Atterbury; I'd be happy to spend it at Red Brush if given the chance.

Anyone want to carpool down Friday with plans to stay until they throw us out? I'm near Bloomington and can drive or chip in for fuel.
Title: Re: KD AQTs at Red Brush THIS WEEKEND (Impromptu Instructor KD Day)
Post by: Rayne on October 18, 2013, 01:18:28 AM
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Title: Re: KD AQTs at Red Brush THIS WEEKEND (Impromptu Instructor KD Day)
Post by: Mudcat on October 18, 2013, 08:43:24 AM
Quote from: philagothon on October 18, 2013, 12:51:08 AM
What are the chances we'll have the range for Sunday as well? I had planned to spend my entire weekend at Atterbury; I'd be happy to spend it at Red Brush if given the chance.

Anyone want to carpool down Friday with plans to stay until they throw us out? I'm near Bloomington and can drive or chip in for fuel.

I am doubtful that we will have the range on Sunday. It is a greatest need kind of thing. I wouldn't feel right even asking for just a few of us to take it away from the membership. If we had 25 or so shooters I would feel comfortable asking and could probably secure it for most of the day anyway. We should be able to get plenty of AQTs in on Saturday the way it looks.

Sunday at the range is a sub gun match the annual Jerry White match which is a pretty big deal. We will need to clear out of the shelter house by mid-morning. If you happen to have a sub gun and want to shoot the match I know they would be glad to have you.
There is a F Class shoot Sunday too (we think). So if anyone has a precision rifle and wants to shoot a match you are able to do that as well. I prefer taking my plain ole rifle and shooting it off of a sling rather than a bi-pod and giving the boys a run for their money with skill against equipment.

Of those staying until Sunday, would anyone be interested in a fighting handgun class? If so be sure to bring your handgun with a few hundred rounds of ammo, a holster and spare magazines. Let me know Saturday.
Title: Re: KD AQTs at Red Brush THIS WEEKEND (Impromptu Instructor KD Day)
Post by: AuntieBellum on October 18, 2013, 09:36:18 AM
Mudcat, thank you for securing Red Brush for us on Saturday.  And thank you, everyone, for being so flexible.  Rimshot and I are gonna drive two hours north to instruct in Michigan instead of driving five hours south to shoot with you.  We're sad to miss the festivities, and it was not an easy choice, but we're sure you'll have fun without us.  Hope to see ya'll soon.
Title: Re: KD AQTs at Red Brush THIS WEEKEND (Impromptu Instructor KD Day)
Post by: SPQR on October 18, 2013, 10:11:04 AM
Spit-I don't know.  HQ does not know when she will get off work today and that is a factor.  Completing the Chili is a factor as well.  I will know more this afternoon
Title: Re: KD AQTs at Red Brush THIS WEEKEND (Impromptu Instructor KD Day)
Post by: HQ on October 18, 2013, 11:48:05 AM
This chili is a big pot - but I'm not sure it could feed everyone till they are full - can anyone else bring food for Saturday night?

I won't be able to shoot the entire day (pregnant ladies can get things accomplished without hysterics - it just takes a little planning!) so I plan on taking a nap tomorrow afternoon and then heat up the soups - so it would be ready for those even if they are planning on shipping out Saturday night to go home.  Beats eating in a loud restaurant!

Add it to the string if you can bring some grub!
Title: Re: KD AQTs at Red Brush THIS WEEKEND (Impromptu Instructor KD Day)
Post by: Mudcat on October 18, 2013, 12:15:45 PM
I will bring some dogs and buns actually my wife will bring some dogs and buns. She has a pot of chili too, she can bring it if needed.
Title: Re: KD AQTs at Red Brush THIS WEEKEND (Impromptu Instructor KD Day)
Post by: brianheeter on October 18, 2013, 12:25:03 PM
I'll bring some loaves of French bread, I mean Freedom bread.  Liberty bread?  Nothing fancy, just what Marsh has.
Title: Re: KD AQTs at Red Brush THIS WEEKEND (Impromptu Instructor KD Day)
Post by: philagothon on October 18, 2013, 12:29:26 PM
I'll bring a jar or two of peanut butter and a loaf of white bread.
Title: Re: KD AQTs at Red Brush THIS WEEKEND (Impromptu Instructor KD Day)
Post by: SPQR on October 18, 2013, 06:25:24 PM
Everbody show up at 8 est tomorrow.  Jump out of the truck with your pack in one hand and your rifle in the other.  No I am not kidding. We will start or day with sun up, squad up, and go.   We brief on safety and move to the line.  All instruction (which is greatly paired down) will be on the line.  A free come up recording chat will be available.  If you want a data book we have them.  Ten bucks.

8est
7central

Everything you need and nuthin you won't use.
Title: Re: KD AQTs at Red Brush THIS WEEKEND (Impromptu Instructor KD Day)
Post by: slim on October 18, 2013, 06:53:44 PM
Quote from: grunt soldier on October 17, 2013, 10:11:32 PMReal talk I may need...
+10 Internetz for keeping it real on the Appleseed forum. I do believe this is the first time "Real talk" has ever been posted. We need more of that around here.

Quote from: Rayne on October 17, 2013, 10:18:19 PMwhat kind of man are you if you can't handle one hormonally unbalanced pregnant wife?   >:D
A smart one!  O0
Title: Re: KD AQTs at Red Brush THIS WEEKEND (Impromptu Instructor KD Day)
Post by: PHenry on October 18, 2013, 06:57:40 PM
 O0
Title: Re: KD AQTs at Red Brush THIS WEEKEND (Impromptu Instructor KD Day)
Post by: Rayne on October 18, 2013, 09:35:44 PM
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Title: Re: KD AQTs at Red Brush THIS WEEKEND (Impromptu Instructor KD Day)
Post by: grunt soldier on October 18, 2013, 09:41:10 PM
What is the address to this place in Bedford for the meet up at 0600. I'm thinking I'm going to try and show up. At least to right now. Her mood may change in a few minutes though
Title: Re: KD AQTs at Red Brush THIS WEEKEND (Impromptu Instructor KD Day)
Post by: philagothon on October 18, 2013, 09:53:32 PM
Quote from: grunt soldier on October 18, 2013, 09:41:10 PM
What is the address to this place in Bedford for the meet up at 0600. I'm thinking I'm going to try and show up. At least to right now. Her mood may change in a few minutes though

Indiana Army Surplus
3714 W 16 th St, Bedford, IN 47421

(unless someone corrects me).
Title: Re: KD AQTs at Red Brush THIS WEEKEND (Impromptu Instructor KD Day)
Post by: SPQR on October 18, 2013, 11:08:58 PM
Just get on 37 and head south. Its at the primary intersection right off 37. There's abig bomb and a flashy scrolling sign. Cant miss it.
Title: Re: KD AQTs at Red Brush THIS WEEKEND (Impromptu Instructor KD Day)
Post by: grunt soldier on October 19, 2013, 04:57:44 AM
Omg it's early as heck. But I'm up and on my ways!!  See everyone in a bit
Title: Re: KD AQTs at Red Brush THIS WEEKEND (Impromptu Instructor KD Day)
Post by: techres on October 20, 2013, 08:05:42 PM
IAAR up here:

https://appleseedinfo.org/smf/index.php?topic=38088.0