I have my ROC and a certificate for a marksmanship course from my first Appleseed shoot. Does the Rifleman opportunity card fulfill the CMP requirement for club affiliation?
I have to drive out to WV next week near Pittsburgh and want to swing by Camp Perry on my way home to buy a Garand. Don't want to pick one out only to find I can't buy it.
Anyone have any past experience at the Camp perry CMP they would like to share?
Thanks in advance.
This is my opinion, Since the ROC is just a membership card with an endorsement for future Appleseeds, I would say yes.
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The ROC card is a membership in RWVA, so yes, that fulfills the club requirement.
Yahoo! Looks like I am going shopping next week!
Thanks!
Quote from: Boston on January 10, 2013, 05:29:15 PM
I have my ROC and a certificate for a marksmanship course from my first Appleseed shoot. Does the Rifleman opportunity card fulfill the CMP requirement for club affiliation?
I have to drive out to WV next week near Pittsburgh and want to swing by Camp Perry on my way home to buy a Garand. Don't want to pick one out only to find I can't buy it.
Anyone have any past experience at the Camp perry CMP they would like to share?
Thanks in advance.
Yes, the ROC is a sticker on the back of your RWVA membership card, if it is current, it is proof of membership in a CMP affiliated organization (which RWVA is). If I were you I would download and review the CMP application so you can get a feel for all of the requirements. They also have instructions online.
Make sure to check out the North Store Reports on the CMP forum. From what I've seen, pickings have been a bit slim of late (no special grade), but that can change every day, and you might find a real gem sitting there when you walk in.
I sent in my mail order for my first Garand with CMP myself in mid-December, in my case a SA service grade special (correct metal, new wood, post-war). I'm hoping I get it around the end of the month.
Good luck, now is a great time to get a Garand from the CMP. The golden era may be ending soon. Orest (the COO) said that they thought they had a few months of service grade specials last month, but with the recent influx of orders don't know how long they will last now.
go to the CMP's website and download the requirments. You need proof of citizenship, birth cert. or passport.
Process looks relatively painless. Just hope they have some good rifles in stock.
Sounds like the buying frenzy has hit the CMP as well as all the local shops.
I don't know if it's the buying frenzy, that's probably a part of it, but the CMP can only uncover so many of these, they are going to run out sometime and in some of the grades sooner rather than later. They don't get to make any more. As it is the CMP has not had any correct or collector grades , or M1A in quite a while, the service grade special will be joining the CMP extinction list relatively soon (weeks), IMO, and the service grade is becoming more and more sparse.
All of this means that now is a great time to get one while you can still get in on it. Good Luck in your search.
Interesting post by Orest in the CMP forums today
Quotedon't call CMP now - you won't get through. email custserve@thecmp.org.
We have thousands of orders received on 2 Jan - and have not gotten to open them all yet.
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CMP Chief Operating Officer
Seems they had a big influx over the holidays.
I'm thrilled to report that my CC got charged and mine hit the estore today, which leads me to believe it will ship next week.
eta: he also had this to say
Quotethere is nothing with which to restock the store as long as we have rifle mail orders processed and not filled. Therefore there will be no regular restocking of the stores for those items - mainly service and field grade rifles.
Hope your rifle is the one you were looking for. Hopefully, I can pick one up on Wednesday and we can compare them at one of the waterman shoots this year.
My wife is out of town so I may make a few more purchases than normal next week. Better to ask for forgiveness.....
Quote from: Boston on January 11, 2013, 09:32:04 PM
Hope your rifle is the one you were looking for. Hopefully, I can pick one up on Wednesday and we can compare them at one of the waterman shoots this year.
My wife is out of town so I may make a few more purchases than normal next week. Better to ask for forgiveness.....
Sounds great, only thing better than one garand is a couple, you take some shots with mine, I with yours, maybe a tag-team AQT!
P.S. what the little lady doesn't know can't hurt her right? Your secret is safe with me :cool2:
Quote from: Boston on January 11, 2013, 09:32:04 PM
My wife is out of town so I may make a few more purchases than normal next week. Better to ask for forgiveness.....
That is why whenever my wife asks what I want for my birthday, Christmas, or wedding anniversary I always say "permission". When she asks what for, the response is "in case I need it".
Quote from: Pitmaster on January 11, 2013, 11:47:27 PM
Quote from: Boston on January 11, 2013, 09:32:04 PM
My wife is out of town so I may make a few more purchases than normal next week. Better to ask for forgiveness.....
That is why whenever my wife asks what I want for my birthday, Christmas, or wedding anniversary I always say "permission". When she asks what for, the response is "in case I need it".
Heh, my wife has just resorted to asking "so, what did I get you?" on these occasions. She didn't seem terribly excited that she got me a Mosin Nagant carbine for christmas ;)
So I am now the proud owner of a M1 Garand!
Stopped by the CMP North store 5 minutes after it opened and joined the 10 epple already looking for some gems. Not many field or rack grades but a good selection of service specials. Also many M1C and M1D if you have some $$$$ to spend.
Wound up with a Springfield service special that had the new walnut stick and had never been issued. Still had the copper from the test fire on the grooves. Basically a "new rifle" with all matching parts. There were some issued ones for $50 less but they were all 3+ on the barrel and 5+ on the throat erosion.
Ammo was going fast. I picked as as many as I could afford at the time but gold were buying 10 - 20 cans at a time and I expect they sold out yesterday at the store unless they got more.
Looking forward to trying this out during an AQT.
Quote from: Boston on January 17, 2013, 07:39:34 AM
So I am now the proud owner of a M1 Garand!
Stopped by the CMP North store 5 minutes after it opened and joined the 10 epple already looking for some gems. Not many field or rack grades but a good selection of service specials. Also many M1C and M1D if you have some $$$$ to spend.
Wound up with a Springfield service special that had the new walnut stick and had never been issued. Still had the copper from the test fire on the grooves. Basically a "new rifle" with all matching parts. There were some issued ones for $50 less but they were all 3+ on the barrel and 5+ on the throat erosion.
Ammo was going fast. I picked as as many as I could afford at the time but gold were buying 10 - 20 cans at a time and I expect they sold out yesterday at the store unless they got more.
Looking forward to trying this out during an AQT.
Sound like you made an excellent choice and got a great rifle Boston. I can't wait to see it. The Service Grade Specials are an awesome value right now. If you later find the period wood you basically have a collectors grade. It's what I ordered and mind shipped yesterday to arrive today (thank goodness, was a little worried in the current climate). I plan on staining mine (new prod CMP stock) with some USSR stain (Don on CMP forums makes it) to correct the color and then rubbing about 3 coats of pure tung oil on the stock for protection.
I'm not worried to much about the Greek HXP ammo running out anytime soon, but I do plan on getting 2 cans/month until I get my stock built up. Sort of a subscription model. Already have 2 with 2 more on the way.
Oh, and P.S.
:pics:
(yeah I know, now I owe some)
FWIW, here's a pic of my Special on a 1944 SA receiver. She's a beauty, plays well with my 1939 SA and 1942 Winchester, although she does give me the "Garand Fat Lip" but that's my problem, not hers.
(and yes I know the 2nd keeper on the 1907 sling is in the wrong place...has since been fixed)
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Steel thunder, nice pic.
Prairie eagle, I brought a friend to the CMP and he got the brown rifle bug really bad. We may go back and buy one. Would be a good time to make a ammo run if you were interested
Steel, nice lookin rifle.
Boston if you do schedule another trip to the north store, shoot me a PM. I'm sure I could find something to add to the shopping list.
Mine arrived today. Very pleased with what I got. Its from the last batch of Springfields (February, 1955), serial number 5,796,XXX. The metal looks brand new as does the bore. It gauged MW 1+, TE 2+. I owe some pics, but this weekend is pinewood derby time for the boy and I'm running it so I got some work to do. The wood (new CMP walnut) definitely needs some stain and oil, it's rather dry/raw/fresh.
Prairie Eagle, congrats on the new addition to the family! >:D
Quote from: Prairie Eagle on January 17, 2013, 10:03:09 PM
Mine arrived today. Very pleased with what I got. Its from the last batch of Springfields (February, 1955), serial number 5,796,XXX. The metal looks brand new as does the bore. It gauged MW 1+, TE 2+. I owe some pics, but this weekend is pinewood derby time for the boy and I'm running it so I got some work to do. The wood (new CMP walnut) definitely needs some stain and oil, it's rather dry/raw/fresh.
I have a Springfield, serial number 5,878,XXX and it looks like it was never issued. Had some one with all the tools check it and TE is +1 (barely) and ME is 0. Looks like the copper from the test rounds are still on the inside of the barrel. Almost all the metal looks in brand new condition and they guy that checked it out was wondering if I was going to take it....
The CMP stock is nice but does seem very unfinished next to all the older M1's I looked at. Guys at the store told me they finish them with BLO to original spec and it just seems light since the other ones are old/dirty/refinished/waxed/oiled, etc.
I am looking at getting some linseed oil and gunny paste from Garand Gear to finish off the stock a bit more as it seems like it would soak up a gallon of water right now. What I really want to do is grease it up good and put some rounds downrange....
Great looking rifle Boston, nice score!
Got off my behind and snapped some photos of mine. This is before doing anything with the wood. I am going to wipe it down a few times with mineral spirits, sand it lightly with 220 to open the pores, stain it with USSR stain to get a better color then add a couple of coats of tung oil.
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Can't wait to put some downrange also. If you're at the Waterman shoot in March, maybe we will get a chance.
Prairie eagle, your rifle looks brand new! Nice pics.
Is that the Plano gun cleaning case? I am building a gun cleaning stand right and saw one like that on line.
Planning to be at Waterman in March. Got a new stock for the 22 and will want to sight in the Garand and try my luck at an AQT. Need to buy some dummy rounds to practice loading the en bloc with 2 rounds.
Then will you take her out and site her in
Quote from: Prairie Eagle on January 20, 2013, 04:45:48 PM
Great looking rifle Boston, nice score!
Got off my behind and snapped some photos of mine. This is before doing anything with the wood. I am going to wipe it down a few times with mineral spirits, sand it lightly with 220 to open the pores, stain it with USSR stain to get a better color then add a couple of coats of tung oil.
(https://dl.dropbox.com/u/676346/Garand/IMG_7180.JPG)
(https://dl.dropbox.com/u/676346/Garand/IMG_7185.JPG)
(https://dl.dropbox.com/u/676346/Garand/IMG_7186.JPG)
(https://dl.dropbox.com/u/676346/Garand/IMG_7189.JPG)
(https://dl.dropbox.com/u/676346/Garand/IMG_7190.JPG)
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Can't wait to put some downrange also. If you're at the Waterman shoot in March, maybe we will get a chance.
Quote from: Boston on January 23, 2013, 07:41:56 AM
Is that the Plano gun cleaning case? I am building a gun cleaning stand right and saw one like that on line.
Yep, it is, don't really care for it (not terribly efficient o the space for cleaning supplies), it was a gift . I'd much rather have a bit larger wood/felt one but I haven't one I like yet.
Quote from: alkeford on January 23, 2013, 08:15:17 AM
Then will you take her out and site her in
you betcha, thats the best part
I got done refinishing my factory new production CMP walnut stock that came with my service grade special. The factory finish, was just sort of dull and lifeless to me - rather light/chalky and very dry:
(https://dl.dropbox.com/u/676346/Garand/IMG_7180.JPG)
So I wiped it down with acetone, then mineral spirits to remove the factory stain/oil, and sanded it lightly with 150 grit sandpaper (only, I did not to seal the pores and cause gloss). I stained it, then wanted it a little darker so I hit it with Fiebing's dark leather dye (to darken and give it a bit more of the USGI oxidized red look that I was looking for). Then 3 light coats of Pure Tung Oil. Here is the final result, I though I'd share in case you were interested:
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I like how it turned out. I was going to get USGI wood to make it correct/collectors, but I can take my time on that now with good condition wood going for $250-$450. This will suit me for a while.
Looks nice! Did you completely remove all the wood off the barrel or did you just leave it in place to refinish?
I still want to use the linseed oil but may wait since it takes a few weeks to dry.
Quote from: Boston on January 28, 2013, 08:12:43 PM
Looks nice! Did you completely remove all the wood off the barrel or did you just leave it in place to refinish?
I took the wood completely off the rifle, and all of the metal off the wood except the ferrule on the front of the front handguard and spacer (these are not meant to be removed from what I hear).
The CMP has a nice guide on detail stripping the wood:
http://www.civilianmarksmanship.com/striphtml/detailstripstockassemblyone.html
The only tricky part I found is removing the clip on the rear handguard, it takes a little patience, but its worth it to not deal with the barrel/receiver when finishing with stain. If you were just going to oil I'm sure you could leave it on and mask it off instead.
Did you use the minwax tung oil or another brand?
Quote from: Boston on January 29, 2013, 12:54:04 AM
Did you use the minwax tung oil or another brand?
Minwax tung oil is not pure tung oil, it is a "tung oil finish". These are mixtures with varnish and driers. You do not want these, they will gloss and look more like a poly (yuck). You want 100% pure tung oil, nothing but nut if you will. In my case I used Hope's pure tung oil I got from Amazon. You do not meet a lot, 8 oz would last a lifetime.
Quote from: Prairie Eagle on January 10, 2013, 06:28:00 PM
Good luck, now is a great time to get a Garand from the CMP. The golden era may be ending soon. Orest (the COO) said that they thought they had a few months of service grade specials last month, but with the recent influx of orders don't know how long they will last now.
The Springfield Service Grade sold out today, this was put on the CMP sales site
SOLD OUT NOT ACCEPTING ORDERS - Effective 2-5-13ETA: Springfield Field Grade gone today as well with the same announcement.
Holy cow! Glad I went when I did. Looks like the buying "panic" is hitting all over.
The ones I saw at the store when I went where not that nice. Sorry I passed one up now but I am happy with mine.
Also saw they are limiting ammo to 12 cans a year. Two guys bought 22 and 17 cans while I was there so I am glad they did that so more people have an opportunity to get some of the ammo.
Yep, if I wanted to get a Garand in 2013, I would really think hard and long about ordering one now. There are some HRAs left, and the specials, but given the low production numbers of HRAs I can't think there are a lot.
I am glad to see the 12 can a year limit too (to give everyone a chance). They have said that they have 1-2 years of the .30-06. I have stepped up my own 2 cans/month plan a bit myself (already got 6 before the limit) and I'm sure I will limit out. FWIW, the .30 carbine also sold out today, but that was never destined to last long.
IMHO the .30-06 HXP is the best thing going right now at .49 cents/round (stayed constant through all this). Who'da ever thunk .30-06 would be the "cheap stuff" ;-) Stack it deep. Heck, 22LR is selling for .30/round at many places, so I also ordered a case of Aguila from CMP (still.05/round there).
Just got the M1 out this weekend to zero it in. Had a great time shooting it and had my uncle in law and his son try it out as well. Quite a difference from shooting the old Matlin .22! Was missing the " ping" after the last round of the 22. :-)
Can't wait to get it out again and even try an AQT. Got the two round clip in case I can't manage the cross round trick in the 8 rounder.
Did you get a chance to fire yours yet?
Quote from: Boston on February 18, 2013, 12:36:42 AM
Did you get a chance to fire yours yet?
Sadly, not yet for me :'( . I need to get off the couch and get to it! :---
Quote from: Prairie Eagle on February 05, 2013, 09:02:40 PM
Quote from: Prairie Eagle on January 10, 2013, 06:28:00 PM
Good luck, now is a great time to get a Garand from the CMP. The golden era may be ending soon. Orest (the COO) said that they thought they had a few months of service grade specials last month, but with the recent influx of orders don't know how long they will last now.
The Springfield Service Grade sold out today, this was put on the CMP sales site
SOLD OUT NOT ACCEPTING ORDERS - Effective 2-5-13
ETA: Springfield Field Grade gone today as well with the same announcement.
And now the Springfield Service Grade Specials are sold out as well. If anyone were sitting on the fence about a garand purchase it would be a very good time to get into action.
Quote from: Prairie Eagle on February 22, 2013, 02:29:51 PM
Quote from: Prairie Eagle on February 05, 2013, 09:02:40 PM
Quote from: Prairie Eagle on January 10, 2013, 06:28:00 PM
Good luck, now is a great time to get a Garand from the CMP. The golden era may be ending soon. Orest (the COO) said that they thought they had a few months of service grade specials last month, but with the recent influx of orders don't know how long they will last now.
The Springfield Service Grade sold out today, this was put on the CMP sales site
SOLD OUT NOT ACCEPTING ORDERS - Effective 2-5-13
ETA: Springfield Field Grade gone today as well with the same announcement.
And now the Springfield Service Grade Specials are sold out as well. If anyone were sitting on the fence about a garand purchase it would be a very good time to get into action.
If you keep up on the CMP forums it seems that the Springfield Service grades are really just on hold until they get the backlog of orders caught up. No point in having people order and have to wait a year to get one. This way they will catch up in a couple months and then offer more up.
The Service Grade Specials on the other hand, I haven't heard that they plan on selling more later.
Quote from: Prairie Eagle on February 19, 2013, 02:12:59 PM
Quote from: Boston on February 18, 2013, 12:36:42 AM
Did you get a chance to fire yours yet?
Sadly, not yet for me :'( . I need to get off the couch and get to it! :---
Seems like most everybody got to this weekend!
Thanks for the chance to experience a very nice rifle (and all the lessons learned at my first Appleseed).
The thing to do if your going to a store is to send your paper work in ahead of time so they can process it and tell you if your good or not. When you go to the store or the games there is less of a delay and more time to shop.
Quote from: KNAK on March 04, 2013, 10:49:40 AM
Quote from: Prairie Eagle on February 19, 2013, 02:12:59 PM
Quote from: Boston on February 18, 2013, 12:36:42 AM
Did you get a chance to fire yours yet?
Sadly, not yet for me :'( . I need to get off the couch and get to it! :---
Seems like most everybody got to this weekend!
Thanks for the chance to experience a very nice rifle (and all the lessons learned at my first Appleseed).
Yep, finally a chance to break it in. I surprised myself with how well I was able to shoot with it. I could definitely see doing an AQT well with one.
Best part was sharing it with some new friends and helping them to shoot it as well. As long as it was dirty, might as well make it real dirty ;D
Glad you got to break it in. I had a family commitment that arose last minute and had to picture myself on the firing line on Sunday afternoon. Looks like it would have been a good day to be shooting.
I will bring mine out in April so we can compare rifles. Already looking forward to next month.