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Title: Promotions Ideas for Wisconsin-What's YOUR Idea?
Post by: Blue Five on May 10, 2011, 06:42:23 PM
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Title: Re: Promotions Ideas for Wisconsin-What's YOUR Idea?
Post by: sparks1 on May 10, 2011, 11:57:55 PM
has anyone tried promotions at shooting events at ranges?

Is it possible? I don't know. Viable???
Title: Re: Promotions Ideas for Wisconsin-What's YOUR Idea?
Post by: Blue Five on May 11, 2011, 12:20:46 AM
Quote from: sparks1 on May 10, 2011, 11:57:55 PM
has anyone tried promotions at shooting events at ranges?

Is it possible? I don't know. Viable???

I haven't tried it, but it sounds like a great idea!  I personally am involved in USPSA pistol shoots, 3 gun tactical shoots, and many more other shooting venues.  That would be a great way to 7th step (as long as you don't get thrown out from "stealing" shooters  **) >:D )

Something to think of trying this weekend maybe.
Title: Re: Promotions Ideas for Wisconsin-What's YOUR Idea?
Post by: Puma Mami on May 11, 2011, 03:09:27 AM
Quote from: Blue Five on May 10, 2011, 06:42:23 PM
-Boy Scouts/Girl Scouts: Talk to your local troupe. Many have requirements (unless I am mistaken) for rifle/shooting patches.  This could count as their qualifier.  Talk to the local leader!
My son is in Boy Scouts and I think this would be a great way to get more people involved in Appleseed. Many adults will go with their kids, then pursue Appleseed themselves, too.

I would like to help develop a "knowledge base" of best practices for how to do Boy Scout rifle merit badges via Appleseed, how to make sure their requirements are met, how to involve the parents more, etc.

The biggest obstacles I see:
- The need for a large number of loaner rifles (BSA provides rifles and ammo at their camps)
- The need for someone signed up with BSA to be a merit badge counselor for the rifle merit badge to sign their official merit badge cards (most troops do not have one)

Here are the Boy Scout requirements to earn that badge:
http://www.boyscouttrail.com/boy-scouts/meritbadges/rifleshooting.asp

Girl Scouts don't have a merit badge for rifle shooting:
http://www.boyandgirlscouts.com/program/girl-scouts-shooting-program/

I've attached a PDF of a thread I found in a search about a group in Missouri working with Boy Scouts and how they planned, how it went, etc. Interesting.

In Minnesota we have TenRing.org, which is a group promoting shooting sports to scouts. I would love to see them getting involved with Appleseed, but I don't really feel qualified to approach them about it. http://www.tenring.org/

In Wisconsin if you can find an event like this to go and have a booth at, this will probably help a lot to bring in youth and families: http://www.dakotacountygunclub.org/Family_Fun_Shoot.html  We are going to be at this one on August 27th to promote Appleseed! Thanks to Sparks1 for arranging that!!!  :bow:
Title: Re: Promotions Ideas for Wisconsin-What's YOUR Idea?
Post by: Blue Five on May 11, 2011, 11:03:46 PM
Great idea Puma  O0

Thanks for the information, I know my father has been attempting to get into contact with our local troupe of boy scouts so they can attend an Appleseed.
Title: Re: Promotions Ideas for Wisconsin-What's YOUR Idea?
Post by: Blue Five on May 12, 2011, 12:00:20 AM
Come on folks, share your ideas!  There have to be more of you out there, don't be shy!  You don't have to be a Wisconsinite to share! Though, we may indoctrinate you into our ways and make you a resident ...  &)  @)
Title: Re: Promotions Ideas for Wisconsin-What's YOUR Idea?
Post by: martin on May 13, 2011, 01:05:15 PM


Something I stumbled into was to take my M1 Garand to the range and practice. It seems to always draw somebody's attention. It always comes around in conversation how to aquire one thru the CMP. Remember to take plenty of brochures with you.
Title: Re: Promotions Ideas for Wisconsin-What's YOUR Idea?
Post by: Puma Mami on May 13, 2011, 05:45:12 PM
Quote from: Blue Five on May 11, 2011, 11:03:46 PM
...I know my father has been attempting to get into contact with our local troupe of boy scouts so they can attend an Appleseed.
Maybe one way to get this going and to help Boy Scout leaders feel more comfortable bringing kids to Appleseed would be to offer a free AS for a leader to try it out. They may be a bit on the fence about AS without trying it, but once they attend a weekend they will see its a very safe, comfortable environment to learn rifle safety and marksmanship, and very much in line with what BSA does.

Another thing I forgot to mention: that one leader who goes and tries AS can probably then get signed up to the official rifle merit badge counselor for their troop, if they aren't already. AS will give them what they need to feel comfortable with that role.
Title: Re: Promotions Ideas for Wisconsin-What's YOUR Idea?
Post by: Blue Five on July 14, 2011, 08:58:59 PM
BTT, I know there's some more ideas out there!
Title: Re: Promotions Ideas for Wisconsin-What's YOUR Idea?
Post by: CIVLAKFLT on July 14, 2011, 11:42:44 PM
Quote from: Blue Five on July 14, 2011, 08:58:59 PM
BTT, I know there's some more ideas out there!

Have you all considered putting an ad in the On Wisconsin Outdoors magazine? It's the free mag that's available at sporting goods stores, such as Gander Mt.  Their smallest ad is $250 per placement. You can see their rate card at the link below.

http://www.onwisconsinoutdoors.com/pdf-files/OnWisconsinOutdoorsMediaPlanner_WEB.pdf

http://www.onwisconsinoutdoors.com/advertise.php

Also, there's that hunting supplement put out by the La Crosse Tribune called Scope. I think it comes out once a year in the fall.

Lots of County Fairs coming up. Our local republican party received some brochures from "Blue 5 and Company" to distribute during the Trempealeau County Fair, July 21-24, in Galesville. Getting in touch with your county's republican party would be a great way to get the word out about Appleseed. The fact that Appleseed is focused on American heritage would be a plus in getting the support of your county republicans.

Also, lots of the county republicans have a monthly politics and pints event at local bars. It's a casual event where we get together and drink and talk to the locals and each other about current events. You all would be welcome to show up and give us more info on Appleseed. Check with your county party for their events. TrempGOP will have its next Politics and Pints from 7-11pm, July 23, at the River's Edge Campground in Galesville.


There's also an Open Carry Picnic in Glenwood City, Aug. 21, at the St. Croix Fairgrounds. All you have to do is show up with an unconcealed sidearm strapped to your body. The invite is on Facebook.

http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=234863926543383

Title: Re: Promotions Ideas for Wisconsin-What's YOUR Idea?
Post by: Trisha on July 17, 2011, 12:32:58 PM
I took a look at eventbrite to see what the students in WI were putting down for the question, "Where did you first hear of Appleseed?" I feel that seeing where they heard about it is important because then we know what has been working, and that we should continue to promote that way. When I looked at the pre-regs I took the information off the person who did the signing up, so for instance if someone sign themselves and another person, I just took it as they either found out about AS together or the one signing them up told the other person about it.

This is what I found for 3 of the shoots:

Dunbar:-one each
Gun Club Newsletter
Friend or Relative
The Survival Podcast

Hubertus:
Friend or Relative-2
Gun Club Newsletter-1
Gun Show/Sporting Goods Store-1
Backwoods Homes-1

Lodi:
Deer & Turkey Expo-2
AS volunteer-2
Gun club Newsletter-1
Title: Re: Promotions Ideas for Wisconsin-What's YOUR Idea?
Post by: CIVLAKFLT on July 17, 2011, 12:53:32 PM
Quote from: Blue Five on July 14, 2011, 08:58:59 PM
BTT, I know there's some more ideas out there!
(http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/284759_2217092235492_1493202334_32471514_3835937_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Promotions Ideas for Wisconsin-What's YOUR Idea?
Post by: Blue Five on July 17, 2011, 01:15:15 PM
Quote from: Trisha on July 17, 2011, 12:32:58 PM
I took a look at eventbrite to see what the students in WI were putting down for the question, "Where did you first hear of Appleseed?" I feel that seeing where they heard about it is important because then we know what has been working, and that we should continue to promote that way. When I looked at the pre-regs I took the information off the person who did the signing up, so for instance if someone sign themselves and another person, I just took it as they either found out about AS together or the one signing them up told the other person about it.

This is what I found for 3 of the shoots:

Dunbar:-one each
Gun Club Newsletter
Friend or Relative
The Survival Podcast

Hubertus:
Friend or Relative-2
Gun Club Newsletter-1
Gun Show/Sporting Goods Store-1
Backwoods Homes-1

Lodi:
Deer & Turkey Expo-2
AS volunteer-2
Gun club Newsletter-1

O0 Thanks for the data, and for "sticky-ing" the thread!

Again, looks like the biggest ones are through word of mouth and promotions in the local area by BOTG.  Got any data on La Crosse?

Quote from: CIVLAKFLT on July 17, 2011, 12:53:32 PM
Quote from: Blue Five on July 14, 2011, 08:58:59 PM
BTT, I know there's some more ideas out there!
(http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/284759_2217092235492_1493202334_32471514_3835937_n.jpg)


Nice picture!
Title: Re: Promotions Ideas for Wisconsin-What's YOUR Idea?
Post by: Trisha on July 17, 2011, 01:44:49 PM
You all must be really talking it up over there because for the last La Crosse AS this is what I got:

Friend or Relative: 8
Appleseed Volunteer: 4
Other-didn't specify: 1
Title: Re: Promotions Ideas for Wisconsin-What's YOUR Idea?
Post by: professor gun on July 17, 2011, 01:59:44 PM
Quote from: Trisha on July 17, 2011, 01:44:49 PM
You all must be really talking it up over there because for the last La Crosse AS this is what I got:

Friend or Relative: 8
Appleseed Volunteer: 4
Other-didn't specify: 1

Thanks, Trisha.  We put the word out and it does work.  While we don't get nearly as many as we would like, we have to keep trying. 
My impression is that one major blockade for junior shooters is that most do not have a rifle.  This is where having some Ruger 10/22s or other suitable .22 rifles really comes in handy since purchasing a brick of .22 ammo is a reasonable cost if the kid is able to shoot two days.  I continue to be amazed by the generosity of the instructors I have become acquainted with in Appleseed and their willingness to bring LTRs for loan to shooters; many even bring ammo that they give away.
Title: Re: Promotions Ideas for Wisconsin-What's YOUR Idea?
Post by: 9mm4545 on July 17, 2011, 05:40:46 PM
I have had some success talking to some of the area tea parties. Some of the tea party goals may sound familiar: fiscal responsibility, limited government, personal self sufficiency, support for the Second Amendment, and a return to the ideals of the Founders. Many of the groups, at least here in Florida, are always looking for speakers and will welcome a short talk about what we do and why we do it. I have had some people who came to events from my efforts with the tea parties. YMMV.

Another idea is contact with your local radio stations. I have had great success with a station with a sportsman oriented weekend program. In fact, the host of that program is working hard on getting his Rifleman patch and has run ads for upcoming shoots for us without charge. A lot of the local stations which do community news and talk also welcome program content and may have you on for an interview about upcoming events in your area. Never hurts to ask. Having a local media "personality" come to an event (if necessary, as a free attendee) can make a powerful ally for getting the word out. I haven't tried local community TV as there is none where I live but that might be another avenue to try.
Title: Re: Promotions Ideas for Wisconsin-What's YOUR Idea?
Post by: zamboni_driver on July 21, 2011, 10:57:06 AM

I'll donate ten boxes of Federal .22 ammo if anyone is interested. 
I'll be at the Colfax shoot this weekend.

Paul
Title: Re: Promotions Ideas for Wisconsin-What's YOUR Idea?
Post by: CIVLAKFLT on July 31, 2011, 05:59:06 PM
I made a little video to try and give newcomers a little taste of an Appleseed weekend. Click on the link to view it. I'd appreciate any comments or criticisms. Thanks.

http://www.dianereid.com/appleseed (http://www.dianereid.com/appleseed)
Title: Re: Promotions Ideas for Wisconsin-What's YOUR Idea?
Post by: Old Glory! on July 31, 2011, 06:20:36 PM
I like it!  The music, the stills mixed with video.  The titles are good.  The website finishes it up. 

Now, how do I share it?  $$-0 :sos:

Title: Re: Promotions Ideas for Wisconsin-What's YOUR Idea?
Post by: Blue Five on July 31, 2011, 06:22:04 PM
Quote from: CIVLAKFLT on July 31, 2011, 05:59:06 PM
I made a little video to try and give newcomers a little taste of an Appleseed weekend. Click on the link to view it. I'd appreciate any comments or criticisms. Thanks.

http://www.dianereid.com/appleseed (http://www.dianereid.com/appleseed)

WOW Diane!!  That is awesome!!  Good work  :)  O0

Now we should see if we can get this up on the Appleseed website :)
Title: Re: Promotions Ideas for Wisconsin-What's YOUR Idea?
Post by: CIVLAKFLT on July 31, 2011, 06:24:00 PM
Quote from: Blue Five on July 31, 2011, 06:22:04 PM
Quote from: CIVLAKFLT on July 31, 2011, 05:59:06 PM
I made a little video to try and give newcomers a little taste of an Appleseed weekend. Click on the link to view it. I'd appreciate any comments or criticisms. Thanks.

http://www.dianereid.com/appleseed (http://www.dianereid.com/appleseed)

WOW Diane!!  That is awesome!!  Good work  :)  O0

Now we should see if we can get this up on the Appleseed website :)

Thanks, Blue. I appreciate the feedback.
Title: Re: Promotions Ideas for Wisconsin-What's YOUR Idea?
Post by: CIVLAKFLT on July 31, 2011, 06:27:11 PM
Quote from: Old Glory! on July 31, 2011, 06:20:36 PM
I like it!  The music, the stills mixed with video.  The titles are good.  The website finishes it up. 

Now, how do I share it?  $$-0 :sos:
Thanks very much for the feedback. Everyone is free to download the video. To do this:

Right-click on the link for the video.
The dropdown box will appear.
Select Save Link As.
Save it to your computer. It is a .wmv file. Then you are free to upload the file anywhere else.

You also may just share the page address.
Title: Re: Promotions Ideas for Wisconsin-What's YOUR Idea?
Post by: Vee Kay on August 02, 2011, 10:38:13 AM
Quote from: CIVLAKFLT on July 31, 2011, 05:59:06 PM
I made a little video to try and give newcomers a little taste of an Appleseed weekend. Click on the link to view it. I'd appreciate any comments or criticisms. Thanks.

http://www.dianereid.com/appleseed (http://www.dianereid.com/appleseed)

Thanks, CIVLAKFLT !  :)
Title: Re: Promotions Ideas for Wisconsin-What's YOUR Idea?
Post by: CIVLAKFLT on August 02, 2011, 06:39:56 PM
Quote from: Vee Kay on August 02, 2011, 10:38:13 AM
Quote from: CIVLAKFLT on July 31, 2011, 05:59:06 PM
I made a little video to try and give newcomers a little taste of an Appleseed weekend. Click on the link to view it. I'd appreciate any comments or criticisms. Thanks.

http://www.dianereid.com/appleseed (http://www.dianereid.com/appleseed)

Thanks, CIVLAKFLT !  :)
You're welcome! It was fun to put together.
Title: Re: Promotions Ideas for Wisconsin-What's YOUR Idea?
Post by: Old Glory! on August 02, 2011, 07:54:44 PM
We could use your help in getting that video out around WI.  PM me and Blue Five if you can help.
Title: Re: Promotions Ideas for Wisconsin-What's YOUR Idea?
Post by: CIVLAKFLT on August 07, 2011, 11:36:29 AM
Feel free to download this flyer and e-mail it to friends or post on your social media page to invite people to the upcoming Winona and La Crosse shoots. You also may download the previous image of Browning Man and add your own date and location for any other upcoming shoot in your area.
Title: Re: Promotions Ideas for Wisconsin-What's YOUR Idea?
Post by: techres on August 07, 2011, 11:48:42 AM
Quote from: CIVLAKFLT on August 07, 2011, 11:36:29 AM
Feel free to download this flyer and e-mail it to friends or post on your social media page to invite people to the upcoming Winona and La Crosse shoots. You also may download the previous image of Browning Man and add your own date and location for any other upcoming shoot in your area.

HOLY COW!  That is awesome!

I wonder if that would make a really good postcard mailer...

Techres
Title: Re: Promotions Ideas for Wisconsin-What's YOUR Idea?
Post by: CIVLAKFLT on August 07, 2011, 12:51:22 PM
Quote from: techres on August 07, 2011, 11:48:42 AM
Quote from: CIVLAKFLT on August 07, 2011, 11:36:29 AM
Feel free to download this flyer and e-mail it to friends or post on your social media page to invite people to the upcoming Winona and La Crosse shoots. You also may download the previous image of Browning Man and add your own date and location for any other upcoming shoot in your area.

HOLY COW!  That is awesome!

I wonder if that would make a really good postcard mailer...

Techres

Thanks.  If you can re-size it in the printer dialog box or re-size it in a graphics editing program, you should be able to make a postcard. Otherwise, e-mail me at diane.photog@gmail.com and I will send you a hi-res version of the image.
Title: Re: Promotions Ideas for Wisconsin-What's YOUR Idea?
Post by: Blue Five on August 07, 2011, 01:07:15 PM
Quote from: CIVLAKFLT on August 07, 2011, 11:36:29 AM
Feel free to download this flyer and e-mail it to friends or post on your social media page to invite people to the upcoming Winona and La Crosse shoots. You also may download the previous image of Browning Man and add your own date and location for any other upcoming shoot in your area.

Wow, Diane, good work!!!!  O0 O0 O0 As Wisconsin's Promotions Coordinator, I like it a lot!!

Quote from: techres on August 07, 2011, 11:48:42 AM
Quote from: CIVLAKFLT on August 07, 2011, 11:36:29 AM
Feel free to download this flyer and e-mail it to friends or post on your social media page to invite people to the upcoming Winona and La Crosse shoots. You also may download the previous image of Browning Man and add your own date and location for any other upcoming shoot in your area.

I wonder if that would make a really good postcard mailer...

That's a great idea!  Something to think about....though who would we mail them to?  People who have already participated in shoots, or just mass mailings to households?

-B5
Title: Re: Promotions Ideas for Wisconsin-What's YOUR Idea?
Post by: CIVLAKFLT on August 07, 2011, 01:51:56 PM
(http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/262903_2268039669146_1493202334_32542178_3252205_n.jpg)

Here is a blank date postcard, 4x6, that anyone can download and modify in Word or some graphics editing software. You can add dates and locations for upcoming events in your area.

Thanks, Blue Five!
Title: Re: Promotions Ideas for Wisconsin-What's YOUR Idea?
Post by: CIVLAKFLT on August 07, 2011, 01:57:28 PM
Quote from: Blue Five on August 07, 2011, 01:07:15 PM
Quote from: CIVLAKFLT on August 07, 2011, 11:36:29 AM
Feel free to download this flyer and e-mail it to friends or post on your social media page to invite people to the upcoming Winona and La Crosse shoots. You also may download the previous image of Browning Man and add your own date and location for any other upcoming shoot in your area.

Wow, Diane, good work!!!!  O0 O0 O0 As Wisconsin's Promotions Coordinator, I like it a lot!!

Blue Five,

You wouldn't necessarily have to mail them. If you printed a bunch of them, you could ask a local business to have a stack on hand for their patrons to take, such as a local sporting goods store that has a bulletin board, a local restaurant with a card area with tourist info. You could e-mail this as a reminder to previous Appleseed attendants if they wanted to attend again. If your local radio or TV station had a community board online or on TV, you could e-mail the card for them to use on the air. I think I will e-mail this card to our cable access channel so they run it on their community board. If someone put in the Lodi dates, they could e-mail the card to Vicki McKenna or any conservative radio person to maybe put on their website, if they do that sort of thing.
Quote from: techres on August 07, 2011, 11:48:42 AM
Quote from: CIVLAKFLT on August 07, 2011, 11:36:29 AM
Feel free to download this flyer and e-mail it to friends or post on your social media page to invite people to the upcoming Winona and La Crosse shoots. You also may download the previous image of Browning Man and add your own date and location for any other upcoming shoot in your area.

I wonder if that would make a really good postcard mailer...

That's a great idea!  Something to think about....though who would we mail them to?  People who have already participated in shoots, or just mass mailings to households?

-B5
Title: Re: Promotions Ideas for Wisconsin-What's YOUR Idea?
Post by: techres on August 07, 2011, 02:09:32 PM
What application are you generating the work in?
Title: Re: Promotions Ideas for Wisconsin-What's YOUR Idea?
Post by: Blue Five on August 07, 2011, 02:11:09 PM
Quote from: CIVLAKFLT on August 07, 2011, 01:51:56 PM
Blue Five,

You wouldn't necessarily have to mail them. If you printed a bunch of them, you could ask a local business to have a stack on hand for their patrons to take, such as a local sporting goods store that has a bulletin board, a local restaurant with a card area with tourist info. You could e-mail this as a reminder to previous Appleseed attendants if they wanted to attend again. If your local radio or TV station had a community board online or on TV, you could e-mail the card for them to use on the air. I think I will e-mail this card to our cable access channel so they run it on their community board. If someone put in the Lodi dates, they could e-mail the card to Vicki McKenna or any conservative radio person to maybe put on their website, if they do that sort of thing.

Great idea!

And good idea on that blank postcard.   O0
Title: Re: Promotions Ideas for Wisconsin-What's YOUR Idea?
Post by: hawkhavn on August 07, 2011, 02:21:41 PM
Someone upthread mentioned buying an ad in 'On Wisconsin Outdoors', the more powerful impact would probably come from a story on Appleseed in their pages.

Here is the list of freelancers that cover Wisconsin for the magazine:
http://www.onwisconsinoutdoors.com/about-dick-ellis-experts.php

Might I humbly suggest you contact Natalie Beacom and invite her to your Ladyseed?
natalie@onwisconsinoutdoors.com

Back issues are here if you want to look at the writer's past work:
http://www.onwisconsinoutdoors.com/current-issue.php

Or any of the other authors to another 'seed?

HH
Title: Re: Promotions Ideas for Wisconsin-What's YOUR Idea?
Post by: CIVLAKFLT on August 07, 2011, 02:31:12 PM
Quote from: techres on August 07, 2011, 02:09:32 PM
What application are you generating the work in?

Photoshop CS4. I'd be happy to send you the source files, if they'd be of use to you.
Title: Re: Promotions Ideas for Wisconsin-What's YOUR Idea?
Post by: CIVLAKFLT on August 07, 2011, 02:35:07 PM
Quote from: hawkhavn on August 07, 2011, 02:21:41 PM
Someone upthread mentioned buying an ad in 'On Wisconsin Outdoors', the more powerful impact would probably come from a story on Appleseed in their pages.

Here is the list of freelancers that cover Wisconsin for the magazine:
http://www.onwisconsinoutdoors.com/about-dick-ellis-experts.php

Might I humbly suggest you contact Natalie Beacom and invite her to your Ladyseed?
natalie@onwisconsinoutdoors.com

Back issues are here if you want to look at the writer's past work:
http://www.onwisconsinoutdoors.com/current-issue.php

Or any of the other authors to another 'seed?

HH

Excellent idea on inviting outdoors journalists to the 'seeds.

There's another freelance journalist in the area named David L. Brommerich. He lives in Fountain City.
His contact info is Phone: 608-687-9909
E-mail: davidbrommerich@centurytel.net

And may I suggest when you invite the journalists, you include the postcard invite and give them a point-of-contact to speak with so they can gather more preliminary info about the group and why it would be of interest to their readers.
Title: Re: Promotions Ideas for Wisconsin-What's YOUR Idea?
Post by: rodgers65 on August 08, 2011, 12:50:52 AM
Have you tried offering free shoots to LEO instructors at the tech colleges?  They see and influence a good number of recruits every year.

Maybe not so Wisconsin-based, but I would consider lobbying Nutnfancy from Youtube to attend an event.  He mentions Appleseed in his Marlin 795 review and has tons of viewers.  A positive review from him could do wonders nation-wide.  147,000 subscribers, over 13 million people have watched his videos.
Title: Re: Promotions Ideas for Wisconsin-What's YOUR Idea?
Post by: Taylor on September 09, 2011, 09:57:54 PM
There's a promotion opportunity in Shell Lake on Saturday 9/17. The event is advertised as a Tea Party gathering. Unfortunately due to scheduling conflicts none of the NW crew is able to represent Appleseed there. If anyone can spend a few hours, I will get them further details.

Thanks,

Mike
Title: Re: Promotions Ideas for Wisconsin-What's YOUR Idea?
Post by: ThePalmHQ on October 10, 2011, 11:08:47 AM
I'm surprised that nobody has mentioned the idea yet, but homeschool groups would be a great place to recruit new Appleseeders.  I can help spread the word in the La Crosse area, anyway.

Also, my son shot at his first Appleseed event at summer camp this past summer.  I don't know who lined that up with the camp organizers, but all of the boys I talked to absolutely loved it.  It sparked an interest in shooting in my own son (he shot Rifleman.....Proud dad   O0 ) which has blossomed into a great father/son hobby for us.  Bottom line is that summer camps would be great places to look for an opportunity to set up a shoot.

Best regards,

David
Title: Re: Promotions Ideas for Wisconsin-What's YOUR Idea?
Post by: ThePalmHQ on October 10, 2011, 12:09:35 PM
Also, each county 4-H has shooting events.  If you got in touch with the 4-H shooting instructors, that would be another great source of potential Appleseeders.  I did contact one of the 4-H instructors for Vernon county prior to this past shoot.  I don't think we got any takers, but I'll keep placing it in front of the Vernon county folks and I'll bet we'll eventually net some.  Others may be able to handle other counties.  The county extension office may be able to provide you with the contact information you need.

Title: Re: Promotions Ideas for Wisconsin-What's YOUR Idea?
Post by: CIVLAKFLT on October 10, 2011, 11:09:27 PM
David,

I think some of our members have been working on an outreach to homeschoolers and the 4-H. Excellent ideas. Keep them coming!


Quote from: thepalmhq on October 10, 2011, 12:09:35 PM
Also, each county 4-H has shooting events.  If you got in touch with the 4-H shooting instructors, that would be another great source of potential Appleseeders.  I did contact one of the 4-H instructors for Vernon county prior to this past shoot.  I don't think we got any takers, but I'll keep placing it in front of the Vernon county folks and I'll bet we'll eventually net some.  Others may be able to handle other counties.  The county extension office may be able to provide you with the contact information you need.
Title: Re: Promotions Ideas for Wisconsin-What's YOUR Idea?
Post by: Blue Five on October 13, 2011, 11:08:31 PM
Great ideas everyone!  Keep 'em coming!  :)  ^:)^  :bow:
Title: Re: Promotions Ideas for Wisconsin-What's YOUR Idea?
Post by: CIVLAKFLT on October 15, 2011, 12:46:23 PM
I would like to suggest that whenever someone achieves Rifleman status, we get his or her e-mail address so we can e-mail a high-resolution photo of the event to him or her. This new rifleman will then e-mail the photo to their local, community newspaper with an attached caption. Something similar to:

Trevin Thomson, of NAME OF TOWN, earned his Rifleman patch over the weekend at the Appleseed Project marksmanship event at the La Crosse Rifle Club, Stoddard. Trevin shot a score of ______ out of a possible 250. The Appleseed Project is a non-profit organization that teaches American history through marksmanship. Events are held in every state nationwide. More information about the Appleseed Project can be found at www.appleseedinfo.org.


Community papers are always looking for content. If there is an approved point-of-contact that person's name and phone or some other contact info could be added to the caption, if that's appropriate.

I neglected to get Doug's e-mail from last week's La Crosse shoot so if anyone has it, please let me know and I will e-mail him his photo.


Thanks,

diane
Title: Re: Promotions Ideas for Wisconsin-What's YOUR Idea?
Post by: Kosciusko on October 15, 2011, 01:01:50 PM
Quote from: thepalmhq on October 10, 2011, 12:09:35 PM
Also, each county 4-H has shooting events.  If you got in touch with the 4-H shooting instructors, that would be another great source of potential Appleseeders.  I did contact one of the 4-H instructors for Vernon county prior to this past shoot.  I don't think we got any takers, but I'll keep placing it in front of the Vernon county folks and I'll bet we'll eventually net some.  Others may be able to handle other counties.  The county extension office may be able to provide you with the contact information you need.

We've held a shoot for the 4-H group in Redwood Falls, MN.   The response was positive.

BuzzG spent the weekend at the MN state 4-H shooting championships held in Fairmont about a month ago.  He handed out many trifiolds and greencoats.  We will be following up the contact info over the winter, trying to set up additional shoots for 2012.

Kosciusko
Title: Re: Promotions Ideas for Wisconsin-What's YOUR Idea?
Post by: CIVLAKFLT on October 20, 2011, 07:48:03 PM
Not really a promotion idea but a website with simple animations about various military campaigns.

http://www.revolutionarywaranimated.com/lex (http://www.revolutionarywaranimated.com/lex)

Click on the animation link to see a PPT-type story of the revolution.
Title: Re: Promotions Ideas for Wisconsin-What's YOUR Idea?
Post by: BugginOut on October 20, 2011, 10:51:16 PM
The video was great, but at 1:46 to 1:50 the person featured has the confederate flag on her right arm.  Do you want a symbol with that history associated with AS promotional stuff?
Title: Re: Promotions Ideas for Wisconsin-What's YOUR Idea?
Post by: CIVLAKFLT on October 20, 2011, 11:57:53 PM
Welcome to the site and thank you. I enjoyed putting it together.

I'm not sure what you mean by "that" history. It's part of our American history. Some people lived in the South and some people lived in the North. The North was not content to let the southern states live their lives as they saw fit. It was a tragedy, but hopefully, the North learned their lesson about the overreach of federal powers into state matters.
Title: Re: Promotions Ideas for Wisconsin-What's YOUR Idea?
Post by: professor gun on October 21, 2011, 12:12:23 AM
Quote from: BugginOut on October 20, 2011, 10:51:16 PM
The video was great, but at 1:46 to 1:50 the person featured has the confederate flag on her right arm.  Do you want a symbol with that history associated with AS promotional stuff?

I have a Confederate Flag patch on the arm of my shooting jacket.  I wear it proudly because it is an important part of American History and the heritage of my family.  What exactly do you mean by "that history"?
Title: Re: Promotions Ideas for Wisconsin-What's YOUR Idea?
Post by: BugginOut on October 21, 2011, 07:01:53 PM
I am happy that my state violated the Constitution so that the ideals of the Declaration of Independence could be realized.  The Civil War was about the in partthe about the ability of the southern states to return slaves to slave states from non-slave states.   Lets take a look:

Georgia Secession (full text at: http://avalon.law.yale.edu/19th_century/csa_geosec.asp )
"The people of Georgia having dissolved their political connection with the Government of the United States of America, present to their confederates and the world the causes which have led to the separation. For the last ten years we have had numerous and serious causes of complaint against our non-slave-holding confederate States with reference to the subject of African slavery."

Mississippi ( full text at: http://www.digitalhistory.uh.edu/learning_history/south_secede/south_secede_mississippi.cfm )

In the momentous step which our State has taken of dissolving its connection with the government of which we so long formed a part, it is but just that we should declare the prominent reasons which have induced our course.

Our position is thoroughly identified with the institution of slavery-- the greatest material interest of the world. Its labor supplies the product which constitutes by far the largest and most important portions of commerce of the earth. These products are peculiar to the climate verging on the tropical regions, and by an imperious law of nature, none but the black race can bear exposure to the tropical sun. These products have become necessities of the world, and a blow at slavery is a blow at commerce and civilization. That blow has been long aimed at the institution, and was at the point of reaching its consummation. There was no choice left us but submission to the mandates of abolition, or a dissolution of the Union, whose principles had been subverted to work out our ruin.

South Carolina:

We hold that the mode of its [the United States's] formation subjects it to a...fundamental principle: the law of compact. We maintain that in every compact between two or more parties, the obligation is mutual; that the failure of one of the contracting parties to perform a material part of the agreement, entirely releases the obligation of the other.... We assert, that fourteen of the States have deliberately refused for years past to fulfill their constitutional obligations....

The Constitution of the United States, in its 4th Article, provides as follows:

"No person held to service or labor in one State, under the laws thereof, escaping into another shall, in consequence of any law or regulation therein, be discharged from such service or labor, but shall be delivered up, on claim of the party to whom such service or labor may be due.

That is the history to which I refer.
Title: Re: Promotions Ideas for Wisconsin-What's YOUR Idea?
Post by: colycat on October 21, 2011, 07:11:59 PM
Not sure at all that re living the war of northern aggression is furthering the promo efforts in Wisconsin and Appleseed in general.  And I do find history an interesting topic, but SOM.
Title: Re: Promotions Ideas for Wisconsin-What's YOUR Idea?
Post by: BugginOut on October 22, 2011, 02:34:34 AM
This is my final thought about promotions and the video.  I thought it was great in showing what you can expect. The combo of stills and videos were great.  I was jealous to see all the 30 cals. on the line!  I looked at the video as a marketing tool. A good one at that.  However I did notice a strong bit of symbolism. I must be over thinking it but I would not want it to put off anyone that has strong feelings about the Virginia battle flag.  I did not mean to imply anything about the person in the photo.  I was using an over the top example and got carried away.
Title: Re: Promotions Ideas for Wisconsin-What's YOUR Idea?
Post by: CIVLAKFLT on October 22, 2011, 11:37:12 AM
BugginOut,

I appreciate your feedback about the video. Mine is not an official promo video within Appleseed but it was my first attempt at describing the program, as a new attendee at a shoot. So, I have received a lot of useful feedback since its first posting.

Please feel free to introduce yourself on the welcome thread http://appleseedinfo.org/smf/index.php?topic=5381.0 and tell us about your Appleseed experience, how you found us and your thoughts about the program. There are plenty of threads to explore with good info.  We welcome your contributions to the Appleseed Project and to the threads.
Title: Re: Promotions Ideas for Wisconsin-What's YOUR Idea?
Post by: Kosciusko on October 26, 2011, 10:09:17 PM

vmt193 and myself have had some success at promoting Appleseed at youth firearms safety classes.   It was easy when we were the instructors.  Otherwise, you need to make arrangements with the  instructor(s) to give a 5-10 minute presentation. 

Has anybody given any thought to having Appleseed instructors seek to become  firearms safety instructors in their home states?

In Minnesota, every youth that wants a firearms safety certificate (necessary to hunt), is required to attend the class.   Can anybody say "captive audience" ?

Plus, the class is on safety, with little time to emphasize marksmanship.   That aspect of Appleseed dovetails nicely. 

From what I can tell, most states use volunteer teachers for their gun safety programs, and most are always short of instructors. 

The downside ?  getting  your initial cert can be a pain.   Then, to teach a class, you've got an additional 10 hours of class time per group, plus a field day.

Upside:  captive audience,  contacts  w/ other local firearms people (prospective shooters all), intros to clubs/ranges, and every youth in the state who wants to hunt  will cross our path.

Kosciusko
Title: Re: Promotions Ideas for Wisconsin-What's YOUR Idea?
Post by: dragonfly on October 27, 2011, 10:41:21 AM
Yep, I help instruct Hunters safety in Baraboo, and yes captive audience makes it easy. Iv'e had several students come to Appleseed's  8)
Thanks,
D-fly




Quote from: Kosciusko on October 26, 2011, 10:09:17 PM

vmt193 and myself have had some success at promoting Appleseed at youth firearms safety classes.   It was easy when we were the instructors.  Otherwise, you need to make arrangements with the  instructor(s) to give a 5-10 minute presentation. 

Has anybody given any thought to having Appleseed instructors seek to become  firearms safety instructors in their home states?

In Minnesota, every youth that wants a firearms safety certificate (necessary to hunt), is required to attend the class.   Can anybody say "captive audience" ?

Plus, the class is on safety, with little time to emphasize marksmanship.   That aspect of Appleseed dovetails nicely. 

From what I can tell, most states use volunteer teachers for their gun safety programs, and most are always short of instructors. 

The downside ?  getting  your initial cert can be a pain.   Then, to teach a class, you've got an additional 10 hours of class time per group, plus a field day.

Upside:  captive audience,  contacts  w/ other local firearms people (prospective shooters all), intros to clubs/ranges, and every youth in the state who wants to hunt  will cross our path.

Kosciusko