Project Appleseed

WHO:  ?  When you check in; please indicate the approximate number of guests you will be bringing!
WHAT:  1st Annual Minnesota Muster/Picnic
WHEN:  Sunday, September 19, 2010 @ 1:30PM
WHERE: CLIFTON FRENCH REGIONAL PARK (http://www.threeriversparks.org/parks/french-park.aspx)
WHY:  For the betterment of the program, the state and the nation!
HOW:  POTLUCK - Javaguy's bringing his canopy, we may need one or two more... Bring chairs; we may or may not be able to get any tables.  Riflemen are always prepared!

Attendees:   Please check in below.  Try to keep chit-chat to a minimum on this thread.  For planning use this thread (http://appleseedinfo.org/smf/index.php?topic=16702.0)...  I'm just trying to keep this one simple.  We merely need to know Who?

Note: If for some reason your schedule changes and you need to retract your vote; you may indeed do so!

 ;) ^:)^ O0 #) &) ++) !@#) ..:.. ..:.. :D ~~:)

I'm in!

No guests as of yet....

+2

Count me in with 2.

I am in for at least 1, hopefully 2. Depends on wife's new job..

AdamT.

I would love to go, but my brother-in-law is getting married that weekend and thus it's all tied up!

Count me in. I will have 1 guest. Since its a picnic, let me know what I can bring.  O0

I'll be there unless Jack has me thrown out of the organization before then.  :(

A group of instructors in NY had a shoot a little while back, and only one of them could score rifleman.    :'(

An  instructor posted "NY instructors can't shoot" and lamented the decline in their skills.  I posted a reply that I was hesitant to take an orange hat due to "when can I shoot?" and recommended that true rifleman skills were more important than increasing the raw number of "instructors."  I pointed out my discomfort with the overwhelming pressure to produce numbers of instructors, rather than produce skilled rifleman and then make them instructors.  The things that I have read pushing "more, more, more" instructors sound like multi-level marketing and not like thoughtful plans for rescuing our Nation.  I agree that the situation is urgent, but I pleaded for more rifleman training and RBC's before making neophites into "instructors."

The entire thread vanished (duh, was censored) overnight.   !@#)

That makes me very, very uncomfortable with the entire Appleseed project, when such blatant censorship is at work.  If this program intends to restore American democracy, it MUST stop such tyrannical censure.

Appleseed is not the only "preparedness and patriotism" organization of which I am a member, and I am deeply troubled whether I am morally obligated to voice my concerns to my non-Appleseed Patriots.

Mr Daily, if you are going to attend the Waterman shoot, I would very much like to discuss these issues directly, just as Americans have discussed thorny issues for over 2 centuries.  Appleseed may be a "non-profit" organization that you oversee, but you do not "own" American Patriotism.  I respect you immensely, but will never bow to an organization "steered" by censorship.

Janelle Cooper, MD [Cooper]
Acting Cmdr, Chief Cook and Bottlewasher, 55Bn, 32nd FF AWRM

 Janelle : I too read and posted on the same topic, only to find the thread gone when I went back to follow up and see if the "superpowers" had some input. Interesting.

Deleted by whom and for what reason?  I also like an open discussion. Would that whomever deleted this thread would explain their position to the "family".

Brass Bucket and I are probably IN - I have this feeling that I'll be working that weekend, but I will see what I can do about that...  &)

As to the other topic in this thread - I'm unsurprised that a number of instructors couldn't hit 210.  MOST shooters (not just AS folks) don't get to the range even once a month - and the instinct is to kick back and relax once you hit that magic number.  If you're never getting to the range, and when you are you're just instructing not shooting, it would be easy to let those skills slip.

Perhaps every once-in-a-while you should have to re-qual?

I suspect I've kicked a hornet's nest, which is my usual MO.  Blunt truth has a way of provoking a response.
Well, my mother always said that there was a value and purpose to my life: I would always be useful as a bad example.
She now is grateful that I am the only child she can talk to without feeling judged.  Blunt truth has significant advantages.  Since I have nothing to lose, I have the luxury of speaking the obvious.

In a blatant attempt to steer this thread back on track....

"As an instructor you are to speak no ill will of another instructor." I did not read the aforementioned thread however the very context of the title seems to violate the modus operandi of said rule. I am no mod or boss or even an instructor. I am just a guy trying to help plan a picnic and get a roll call.

Good discussion has it's own place and time.

AdamT

 

I'll be there with one for sure.  Is this meant to be a Rifleman and up type thing or did you all intend to open it to anyone who is a friend of Appleseed and has attended a Minnesota AS?  8)

Sven

As far as I'm concerned, ALL Appleseeders are welcome. I'll even tolerate some border-jumping on this one. :)

vmt

I will bring my tribe of 5!  :))

Quote from: adamt on September 10, 2010, 12:34:15 AM
In a blatant attempt to steer this thread back on track....

I nominate Adam chairman of the Committee of Steering. Good jpb!

Ahhh...
Now I know what you were refering to.
Never saw the post though.

This will be discussed at the muster, along with any other concerns any of you may have.
Write 'em down and bring them with or PM me.

Aftermath

I'm in

 
   I'm in + 1. What to bring, she asks? Potluck, I gather?

I guess potluck sounds good with me. Bring something for yourself and something to share, or something like that. There is no power so something like a crock-pot may not work. We are running a pretty low budget operation so nothing super fancy is needed. Tomorrow I will send out a pm to all that have expressed an interest, and plan on showing up. It will instruct them to check this thread and say what they plan on bringing along with seeing what others are planning on bringing.

I think that a handful or two of rifleman and there families will make a fine gathering no matter what the amenities.

AdamT.

I'm in.

I can bring a nice warm pot of chili and a canopy.

By the looks of the long range weather forecast (cool and wet), we may need both.  ???

BD

It wouldn't be an appleseed picnic with ought rain I guess.

AdamT. 

Well, potluck it is!

The Victuals List:

Black Dog - Chili
Vmt193 - Potato Salad
Adamt - Cake & chips
kmk - hot dogs[the good kind];  Buns; ketchup&mustard;  cookies[mom's own]
AFTERMATH - vegetables/dip; fruit; brownies
Russellmn - brats
Terry - Chips & salsa
Sparks - venison brats



Supplies:

Plates - Cooper
Napkins -
Plastic forks/knives/spoons -
Charcoal/lighter fluid - Sparks



Support:

Javaguy - Canopy and the official Appleseed Mallet
Blackdog - Canopy
Russlemn - Canopy
vmt192 will bring 2 canopies D.O.Weather
Sparks - Grill utensils
------ I think that cover is covered.




Numbers:  24-ish

Potato Salad here!

I am in for a cake and a couple bags of chips.

AdamT.

Do you guys want more old-style hot dogs like we had in Winona ?

If so, give me a count.

I'm in for old style dogs!! Thanks kmk, they were great!!!   :))

Kmk, I am going to send out a PM to all that have responded to this post so far. I myself would like to try a dog or two. We should have a close account of people coming as sunday nears.

AdamT.  

put me down for a couple of those dogs, KMK, and I'll bring some brats as well.
Can also bring another canopy like Javaguy's.  I'll toss it in the truck, if we need it, we'll have it.

Our crew will go for 6 dogs!  If we can figure how to keep a crock of beans hot through a long church service, we'll bring something else edible.

Should be good!  Is there an agenda or is it a free for all?   4 hours of IMC stories?  I can imagine Orange Hat vs Red Hat ultimate frisbee.

UPDATE

(I did it like that so you'd know it is serious  ;) )

I won't be able to make it due to work obligations - but i did managed to get all weekends off (no mean feat in the hospitality industry) once the hotel officially opens next week - so it will be an AS friendly schedule after that.

Brass Bucket asked me to say that she'll be able to make it for a while, but has a bridal shower later that afternoon so she can't stay the whole time.

These IITs from Duluth are a bunch of flakes  :wb:

Is anyone bringing plates? napkins? beverages?

BB

Cooper's got plates...  Did you want to put yourself down for one of these? -Aftermath

Quote from: BrassBucket on September 16, 2010, 10:02:01 AM
Is anyone bringing plates? napkins? beverages?

BB

We'll cover our crew and throw in some extra.  I think we have some of those special cups and plates that fly away in the wind.

I can bring a stack of plates.

Talked Mom into making an ice-cream pail of chocolate chip cookies.

Are there fixed grills at this park ?

Should I bring a bag of charcoal and some sticks to burn hot dogs on ?

Bread  OK, or do you guys want buns ?

Let's go with buns....  They hold up to a little more abuse in the park setting.
Someone will need to bring charcoal....  Hmmm.....   Needs list coming..... -Aftermath

There are several fixed grills at the park. They are the like 1 by 2 foot cast units.

AdamT.


Are they in close prox? -Aftermath

I need an approximate  count by Friday noon, that's the latest I can make a weiner run.  Close will have to be good enough.


50 outta be a good count.
Don't worry about an exact, Russell's bringing brats to supliment.  I'll probably find a meat product that's on sale.
Will this be bring your own drinks?   -Aftermath

Put yard games on the list. My contact fell through.

AdamT

P.S. If a needs list is not forthcoming by late tonight or tomorrow I will assemble one. I work late tonight and am going shooting tomorrow afternoonish.

Unconfirmed list of necessaties:

Charcoal
lighter fluid
Buns
condiments
forks/knives/spoons
beverages
napkins
games; if you want.....

Let me know if you come up with something esle.

 I'll bring charcoal, lighter fluid, some grill utensils, and venison brats. Pam and I may bring Zach, our nephew, rifleman as of April at Elk River. 20lb bag should be okay , don't you think?


20lbs is the big one, right?  Enough to run 2 grills?  Should be adequate...  -Aftermath

Ill tell you what Sparks. If that don't cut it, there is a target like 1 mile away.

AdamT.

 If that doesn't cut it we'll have the fire dept out on a 3 alarm. **) **) **)

I look forward to Sun. , It should be a great time.  I'll try to bring extra chairs...in case they're needed.

Quote from: AFTERMATH on September 16, 2010, 07:00:25 PM
Unconfirmed list of necessaties:

Charcoal
lighter fluid
Buns
condiments
forks/knives/spoons
beverages
napkins
games; if you want.....

Let me know if you come up with something esle.

Better take your white board for your crunch the numbers presentation.  &)

Have a GREAT time MN.  WI had a CTN meeting in January and it was great fun AND we got a lot of planning done. 8)

O'ha!  What a coincidence!  I just recently aquired a white board....  --Aftermath

I'll bring  4 dozen hot dog buns
big jug of ketchup, mustard

Bringing multiple plates, utensils, a couple of liters of pop and some extra chips.

Is there a dress code?   Shooting jackets, yes or no?  Camo?  Gadsden items?  Incognito or outright plain and simple?

Realize, of course, that I may or may not log in to see a response...     ::)

Coop

Quote from: Cooper on September 18, 2010, 08:34:59 PM
Bringing multiple plates, utensils, a couple of liters of pop and some extra chips.

Is there a dress code?   Shooting jackets, yes or no?  Camo?  Gadsden items?  Incognito or outright plain and simple?

Realize, of course, that I may or may not log in to see a response...     ::)

Coop

We'll be coming from church, orange-hat is coming with me!

Well, it has been done. As far as I am concerned the picnic was a resounding success. We had enough food for double the capacity of picnickers, clear skies (albeit a cool fall day,) and great fellowship. I am sure that a more official recap or an AAR will follow. I think that Minnesota emerged with a much clearer plan to proceed into 2011.


AdamT.

It was great to meet everyone and to see the future of Appleseed in MN take shape.

A few pics from the MN Appleseed Muster Picnic.

As I helped Kevin pack up after the picnic, I thought he pointed to a pasta salad as belonging to him. When we got down to his truck, he told me it wasn't his. So, I have your salad bowl and serving spoon. PM me and I'll get it back to you.

Buzz

 Question is...how much salad is left??? >:D >:D