OK folks, time to get started on our 2011 calendars. If you are a club contact, start working on dates for next year. We'd like to be able to promote specific events at upcoming gunshows. Post whatever you have here or send a PM to "AFTERMATH" and "vmt193".
Pssst... Mike, Did you tell 'em how many shoots we're shootin' for in '11? Here's a hint, it's down below! -AFTERMATH @)
Key:
Holiday
Gunshow
Confirmed
Pending
April
2-3 Gun Show-Brooklyn Park Armory (Croc)
9-10 Gun Show-Stillwater Armory (Croc)
16-17 Marshall - Rochester - Hinckley - La Crosse, WI
23-24
30-1 Decorah, IA - Gun Show-Bloomington Armory (Croc)
May
7-8 Winona Exhibit-Cabelas-Rogers
14-15 Hinckley - Wells
21-22 Redwood FallsGun Show-Anoka Armory (Croc)
28-29
June
4-5
11-12 Marshall
18-19 Hinckley
25-26 La Crosse, WI
July
2-3
9-10
16-17 Hinckley
23-24
30-31
August
6-7 Picnic
13-14 Hinckley
20-21 Gun Show-MWC-Forest Lake
27-28
September
3-4 Winona
10-11 Marshall - Northwood, IA
17-18 Hinckley - Wells - Decorah, IA
24-25 Duluth
October
1-2 Gun Show-MWC-MN Ed. Bldg.
8-9 Hinckley
15-16
22-23
29-30 Gun Show-MWC-MN Coliseum
November
5-6
12-13
19-20
26-27 Thanksgiving Hinckley
December
3-4
10-11 Gun Show-MWC-St Paul River Cntr
17-18
24-25 Xmas
31-1 New Years
Earlier this year:
January
1-2
8-9 Gun Show-Bloomington Armory (Croc)
15-16 IBC - Ottawa, IL -- Jan 15-16-17 Gun Show-MWC-Rochester
22-23 Gun Show-St. PAul Armory (Croc)
29-30
February
5-6 AIBC - Baraboo, WI -- Feb. 4-5-6 Gun Show-Duluth Conv. Center (Croc)
12-13
19-20 Gun Show-MWC-MPLS Conv. Cntr
26-27 Gun Show-Anoka Armory (Croc) Gun Show - Pine City, Pine Tech Shooters Assc.
March
5-6 Gun Show-Mankato NG Training Center (Croc)
12-13 Winona - IBC Gun Show - Wells
19-20 Gun Show-MWC-MN Coliseum - Sports EXPO Cabelas - Rogers
26-27 Hinckley
The Redwood River Sportsman's Club has approved the 2011 dates for Marshall. O0
Do any of you remember back when it was tough to staff 1 shoot per month?
Well, we've come round quite a bit from these last two years!
At the picnic in Sept.... You were there, right? Well here's a refresher: We calculated that we are now capable of running 4 shoots simultaniously!
That gives us a capacity of 48 shoots next year. Is it going to be easy? No, but we'll go ahead and assume that we'll be having more Shoot Bosses and Instructors by then. That'll spread the work load a bit!
So, see what you can do to help the Committee of Exploration, Acquisition and Support (http://appleseedinfo.org/smf/index.php?topic=16326.0) in getting new ranges. Because, with our current hosts; we cannot come close to making our goal! All this work, to find setting them up and staffing them is just the beginning.... The hardest task is next! Once they're on the schedule; we've got to fill the line!
You don't need to be an Instructor, to help out! We need non-instructor staffing as well!
Ask "vmt193" or "AFTERMATH" how YOU can become a Blue Hat volunteer!
Proposed Hinckley dates:
Mar. 26-27
Apr. 16-17
May 14-15
Jun. 18-19
July 16-17
Aug. 13-14
Sep. 17-18
Oct. 8-9
Nov. 26-27
P.S. The limegreen/green looked to alike on my comp, so the shows are now green. ;)
Status request...
Elk River? Try for 3
Oakdale? Try for 2
Duluth? Try for 4 (feb .22-only)
Putting in a range request form for Elk River for April 16-17 and June 18-19. These are the dates that Joel can be there as the range liaison. If we want more dates, we'll have to make Dean a Rifleman and get him a well deserved instructor hat.
Also, I've been in contact with the Caribou Gun Club down in Le Sueur (hour sw of twin cities). They're interested and they have 500 yards which they made sure i knew about ;). I'm hoping for May, July and September dates. I'll check back here when I get an update o it.
Hands will be full this year!
Buzz and I talked to the Wells club last night. A lot of interest from the club members! I think we can probably plan on 2 shoots there. They have the host app. and just need to choose dates. I don't have range dimensions but it sounded like a VERY wide firing line. :)
They used to be active with the CMP and have several Garands and a "bunch" of ammo still laying around. They thought an Appleseed might be a good place to break 'em out and get some use out of 'em again! :~
vmt
Just got a response from Elk River. It is as follows:
"Hello Tyler,
Unfortunately, Elk River Sportsman's Club will be unavailable for Appleseed events in 2011.
Scott Olson, President
Elk River Sportsman's Club"
Wonder what's up...
That's a bummer. :(
We have a little over 5 million people in this State and 3.5 to 4 million of 'em live in the metro area. We currently have close to 20 Appleseeds either approved, or darn close to it, and none of them are in the metro area. :-[
If we can't get events at the metro ranges, we need to step up our promotions efforts and get folks to the out-state ranges. ~~:)
vmt
Quote from: Whisker on January 24, 2011, 03:48:58 PM
Just got a response from Elk River. It is as follows:
"Hello Tyler,
Unfortunately, Elk River Sportsman's Club will be unavailable for Appleseed events in 2011.
Scott Olson, President
Elk River Sportsman's Club"
Wonder what's up...
Do we still have a contact with Dean?? Maybe he could answer this or get an answer.
This is sad news, Elk River is a great facility and close to metro. We need to get some leads going metro wise to moblize AS around here.
Any word on Sven's club in St. Paul?
Yeah I'll see what Dean thinks.
We definitely need Oakdale... and if we get lucky, Le Sueur will join up.
Quote from: vmt193 on January 24, 2011, 04:28:29 PM
We have a little over 5 million people in this State and 3.5 to 4 million of 'em live in the metro area. We currently have close to 20 Appleseeds either approved, or darn close to it, and none of them are in the metro area. :-[
If we can't get events at the metro ranges, we need to step up our promotions efforts and get folks to the out-state ranges. ~~:)
vmt
I'm sorry to hear it's been so difficult to get the Twin Cities ranges to schedule Appleseeds. They do seem more fussy and quirky than ranges in the rural areas are. Maybe their long wait lists for memberships make them less accommodating?
On the other hand, look what you guys have achieved with so many on the schedule for 2011 already, and you are opening up new ranges, too. Plus you are doing lots of promotions. O0
I have a few friends that are interested, but they would rather not have to camp or stay in a hotel to participate. I might talk them into camping this summer at Hinckley, though. Hopefully Oakdale will come through and they can just commute from home. My son's friend wants to go, but again, it will be harder to do that if it's a whole weekend trip. We might still be able to make that work, though.
Plenty of space at Dicey and Taylor's place an hour or so east of Hinckley. Come on down (east?).
Quote from: Taylor on January 24, 2011, 11:29:34 PM
Plenty of space at Dicey and Taylor's place an hour or so east of Hinckley. Come on down (east?).
Thanks for the offer! It's still kind of a drive, though. We'll see how it goes as summer approaches. Camping might work OK.
I was glad to see Dicey got her rifleman patch O0 She was next to us on the line that Sunday, with her cute pink rifle!
Hey Puma...I remember that group in your avatar!!!! Hows the dry firing going?
As far as metro ranges go...we will persevere! WE ARE RIFLEMEN AND WOMEN. That is one of our traits. We will keep on contacting ranges here and one will decide to give Appleseed a go. Just a matter of time.
Quote from: sparks1 on January 25, 2011, 12:15:42 AM
Hey Puma...I remember that group in your avatar!!!! Hows the dry firing going?
Thanks for all of your help and instruction that led to achieving that group!
Yes, after firing that group Sunday morning, I knew I had to come back and try for rifleman. ;D I didn't try on that Sunday because I was so tired and sore, and my groups were getting worse and worse after that.
Haven't started the dry firing, but we did get signed up to go back and try for rifleman at Hinckley at the end of March. Last chance for the Winterseed rifleman patch. So now we need to start practicing those firing positions and the trigger squeeze.
If we tape a laser pointer on a rifle, would that help with practicing NPOA?
Quote from: sparks1 on January 25, 2011, 12:15:42 AM
As far as metro ranges go...we will persevere! WE ARE RIFLEMEN AND WOMEN. That is one of our traits. We will keep on contacting ranges here and one will decide to give Appleseed a go. Just a matter of time.
I'm glad you're going to persevere in getting metro area ranges to sign up!
Yes, taping a laser pointer would help with NPOA. It would also help with trigger SQUEEZE. Watch the laser when squeezing the trigger, if one does not squeeze straight back it will pull the sights (laser) off to the side. Probably would help to have a spotter do this while the dry firer concentrates on the 6 steps.
Like the ball and dummy drill...the spotter will pick up on the mistakes and give instruction. You both know enough to work with each other and anyone else to get the basics down at home. Then in March your first AQT will be a breeze. Practice those mag changes too.
An old adage in practical pistol leagues carries over here....Go slow to go fast! In other words , get those basics down pat. It develops muscle memory which takes over in stress situations. You won't have to think about it, just do the thing. All the practice at home pays off, not only for beginners, but for all of us. In fact, I am going downstairs later to put in some time on positions. (Put on a few lbs over the past few months)
Thanks, Sparks1, for the tips! Now for the practicing ;)
Caribou Gun Club says they can't host this year due to over scheduling. That's three ranges who have turned us down. Maybe someone more tactful/professional should try from now on?
Quote from: Whisker on February 01, 2011, 02:08:23 PM
Caribou Gun Club says they can't host this year due to over scheduling. That's three ranges who have turned us down. Maybe someone more tactful/professional should try from now on?
Three? Who's the other one?
Anything in the works in more the north western side of MN?
I thought last year I heard that there was a plan to host something in/around Fergus Falls. I was working with the ND guys to have one in Fargo, but the local range declared bankrupcy, so thats all in limbo. I was hoping to find something on the schedule closer... its easier to convince people (myself included) to go when it is less than 200 miles away.
How does Brainerd sound? I'm working on finalizing details with some guys there right now. :)
vmt
Quote from: Mr_C on February 01, 2011, 04:02:25 PM
Anything in the works in more the north western side of MN?
I thought last year I heard that there was a plan to host something in/around Fergus Falls. I was working with the ND guys to have one in Fargo, but the local range declared bankrupcy, so thats all in limbo. I was hoping to find something on the schedule closer... its easier to convince people (myself included) to go when it is less than 200 miles away.
Come on... The fun don't even start 'till you hit 210 miles. ^-^
Do you have any other leads? We'd definately like to get up there, but I believe you're the only one in the area... At least on this side of the border.
Is that the same range that 7.62 has been working on? Also, I've known sparks1 to run the occasional recon up that way; but thus far hasn't turned up much....
Sparks, can you post where you've been up there, perhaps Mr_C can help us out in the area....
A good resource is: http://www.wheretoshoot.org/Find_Range/index.asp you can even run a 218 area code search; that'll get you pretty close.
Thanks guys!
Alex
Quote from: vmt193 on February 01, 2011, 04:21:25 PM
How does Brainerd sound? I'm working on finalizing details with some guys there right now. :)
vmt
Huzza!
Quote from: Mr_C on February 01, 2011, 04:02:25 PM
Anything in the works in more the north western side of MN?
I thought last year I heard that there was a plan to host something in/around Fergus Falls. I was working with the ND guys to have one in Fargo, but the local range declared bankrupcy, so thats all in limbo. I was hoping to find something on the schedule closer... its easier to convince people (myself included) to go when it is less than 200 miles away.
Well I checked the Fergus Falls club out last summer and ruled it out. Facility would not do, in short. I do have the Pelican River Gun Club on my list to check into (Erhard,Mn.) , but never found the time to contact them. This could be a possibility as they have some distance.
Range listings:http://www.traderscreek.com/gun_clubs/minnesota.asp
AND.....what other range has turned us down? I heard of Elk River, and now Caribou.
Brainerd would be the best bet for me of whats on the list. I was really hoping to get something within driving distance of Fargo/Moorhead. I know I could get at least a dozen people to participate if it didn't require overnight stays. Too bad on the fergus range, that would have been doable.
I looked at the website and saw there is one in East Grand Forks. I know a guy who shoots IDPA there and was just talking to him about it last night. He seemed to think the people there were pretty open and reasonable (with regards to IDPA). Hopefully the range is the same. Should I try emailing them and see if they are open to it? I don't mind sticking my neck out, but having only participated in one Appleseed weekend, I don't feel qualified to be much of a salesmen. Their email address is - info@egfgunclub.org
There also appears to be one in Grand forks that might work, but I should probably hit up the ND guys for that one. I will keep looking to see what else I can find.
Quote from: AFTERMATH on February 01, 2011, 03:32:45 PM
Quote from: Whisker on February 01, 2011, 02:08:23 PM
Caribou Gun Club says they can't host this year due to over scheduling. That's three ranges who have turned us down. Maybe someone more tactful/professional should try from now on?
Three? Who's the other one?
The Des Moines Rifle and Pistol Club down in Iowa.
Quote from: Whisker on January 24, 2011, 07:14:46 PM
Yeah I'll see what Dean thinks.
We definitely need Oakdale... and if we get lucky, Le Sueur will join up.
Has anybody contacted Oakdale yet?
Quote from: tc95gt on February 04, 2011, 11:24:25 AM
Quote from: Whisker on January 24, 2011, 07:14:46 PM
Yeah I'll see what Dean thinks.
We definitely need Oakdale... and if we get lucky, Le Sueur will join up.
Has anybody contacted Oakdale yet?
I still haven't heard from anyone yet....................Sven?
vmt
Red Wood Falls sounds like a real possibility.
Mike, can we get this updated with our current leads?
Forest Lake is very possibly a no go. They have shooting shacks set up for bench rest at 25,50,100,200,300,400.
25yd has 6 stations and no room behind the line for an equipment line. They also have partitions between ALL shooting stations.
50yd the same and their range rules state ALL firing must be from the shack firing line.
100yd ...same as 50yd.
200,300,400 shooting shacks have 2, 8 foot concrete culverts end to end in front of the firing line.
Again ALL have a partition between them.
I asked Gary, the president of the board, if we could go to the 50yd and just move the firing line back from the berm 25 meters. Berms on both sides too, so we would be protected. He never thought of that, and would ask around to see if it cou;ld be done. Gary is very supportive of AS, and said he planned to attend one at Oakdale. I told him it wasn't n the schedule ...YET.
So Forest Lake is on the back burner for answers. I will get some info together for Minneapolis Rifle club and mail it out to their mailing address. Sven is a member of MRC so a two pronged attack may be in order, O0.
Minneapolis Rifle club has the range handout that Puma Mami put together. (Mailed las Sat. 4-2)
Is Duluth on board for any Appleseeds this year? I don't see it on the schedule.
What's the status on Wells?
IIRC, we are supposed to have 2 shoots at Wells this year
Wells is on the Appleseed web site now, available for registrations. I had put the new Wells flier on another thread, but here it is again.
Do we know of any locations to add to October, that aren't gonna interfere with hunter sight-ins?
Duluth's down for Sept. 24-25; pending club board aproval