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Appleseed Welcome Center => Appleseed Lobby => Topic started by: OrovilleTim on March 12, 2010, 02:38:02 PM

Title: Other People's Kids
Post by: OrovilleTim on March 12, 2010, 02:38:02 PM
I had a question posed to me by my teen daughter as we were pulling out from our first Appleseed last weekend:  "Dad, can we bring 'so-and-so' to the next one?"  With so-and-so being one of her teen-aged friends.

I told her that I thought the parents would have to be here to sign the release forms.  But, while I'm sure the parents wouldn't get off the couch to come to an Appleseed (sadly), I got to thinking that the more that learn marksmanship, the better off we are for the future.

So, my question is:  If we downloaded the forms and had the minor's parents sign the release, could they attend?  Or, would the parent actually have to be on-sight to sign and for the minor to participate? 

I figured it would be better to ask and find out for sure, than to just assume that it wasn't workable.

Thanks much,
Tim
Title: Re: Other People's Kids
Post by: Fred on March 12, 2010, 06:18:45 PM

   The short answer is "yes" (as to the downloading) and "no" (as to the parent having to be there - altho every effort should be made to encourage the parent to be there - just so we can reach someone else) - assuming the kid is under 18 - 18 and older would be considered adults in their own right.

   As a practical matter, if a 'kid' shows up in the company of an adult neighbor or friend, we've been treating the adult as in effect the temporary guardian, and allowing him or her to sign the waiver along with the kid.

   (Because it'd be such a shame to turn a kid away on a legal technicality...)
Title: Re: Other People's Kids
Post by: OrovilleTim on March 12, 2010, 06:26:21 PM
Thanks so much for the response!  This is excellent news.  Maybe if the kid goes home excited to share what happened, they'll sway the parents to come to a future Appleseed. 

Thanks,
Tim
Title: Re: Other People's Kids
Post by: LayloPro on March 12, 2010, 08:17:13 PM
Interesting question OT...I'm glad you asked..... O0
And thank you Fred (the Helpful) for the nice succinct answer! ..:..

This has been mentioned a time or two around, and I hadn't heard a "definitive" (as in "the P'sTB have spoken") answer on it... ^:)^

Just as a minor precaution tho', perhaps a waiver/note from the actual parents assigning the care & safety of their "child" to whoever the "responsible adult" is at the event might fore stall any possible "bad juju" as well, perhaps.....

(big fan of covering backside, and thinking around corners)....... :~

LLP
Title: Re: Other People's Kids
Post by: OrovilleTim on March 12, 2010, 08:38:41 PM
Just as a minor precaution tho', perhaps a waiver/note from the actual parents assigning the care & safety of their "child" to whoever the "responsible adult" is at the event might fore stall any possible "bad juju" as well, perhaps.....

Good idea.  Something like a field trip permission form we're always signing for the kids  O0
Title: Re: Other People's Kids
Post by: desertrat144 on March 12, 2010, 09:26:08 PM
My .02 worth.

Give your local hospital a call (where shoot is being held), and ask them what paperwork they need to allow treatment for a nonfamily member, and how they expect payment to be made.  Whose insurance will be billed?  What payment is expected at the time of service?  The hospitals will have the proper forms for free. 

Also find out if anything needs to be Notorized.

Every state has its own requirements.

Tom
Title: Re: Other People's Kids
Post by: Western Rose on March 12, 2010, 10:38:07 PM
Here's a PDF of the Liability Release Form.
Title: Re: Other People's Kids
Post by: OrovilleTim on March 12, 2010, 10:50:42 PM
Thanks for the release form.

I found this form on the net for medical treatment:  http://www.stvincent.org/NR/rdonlyres/96FF8FCD-ED30-4BBE-B2BE-37687F53CEBB/0/parentalconsent.pdf (http://www.stvincent.org/NR/rdonlyres/96FF8FCD-ED30-4BBE-B2BE-37687F53CEBB/0/parentalconsent.pdf)

Looks like it covers the bases medically while the kids are in my care.