The weekend was a great time had by all. A little history and comraderie with knowledge to be learned and shared with family, friends and the next generation. Don't miss the chance to go to one of these Appleseeds if you can go.
Using the 22LR makes it a very inexpensive way to practice and bring your centerfire and get in some practice with it as well.
Thanks to Sheepdog, Editor, Eel, Pappy, Reveille, Deacon and all the others. Congratulations to the new rifleman.
See you at another Appleseed shoot near you, soon.
Citizen, Soldier, Patriot. <:)
Note to the Instructors and others who attended here and others. I will be one of your 14,000+ when the matches fall, just call me and I will stand by these good men and womens side, as a patriot.
Glad you came and had a good time. Thanks for the AQT targets. We will put those to good use real soon. :~ Watch your six over in the sandbox, we will all be with you in spirits. I look forward to seeing you and your son again soon. Reveille.
Some photos for your enjoyment.
I promised photos to sheepdog or papi. Would whichever of you wanted them, IM or email me your address and I'll send a CD. Apologies for forgetting to get those to you yesterday.
One question: Why do instructors not use their given names?
"Eel" is a top-notch shooting instructor and does the program proud. He ran the line in the bay I was in and did a fine, fine job. Fred should be proud (assuming he's still got his fingers in this as deep as a few years ago). He was very patient and knowledgeable, even with the kids and problem cases.
The fact you get such quality instructors volunteering for this speaks volumes.
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John
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Maybe additional photos later.
How was I able to participate and get some great pix?
I shot RIFLEMAN not once, not twice, but four times Sunday. Shot my highest, 218, wearing Interceptor Body Armor. First time I'd ever shot in armor.
John
Templar,
OUTSTANDING pics!!! Thanks O0 Often we get so caught up in instructing / shooting / speaking / etc. we forget to "shoot" the camera. Glad someone was thinking!
We use screen names to alleviate when someone calls "Bill" , "Ted", "Bob" or whatever....4 people respond. By using screen names, only one guy will answer when you yell out "Hey EEL". Also, when AARs are posted, everyone knows who you are referring to when you say "Deacon did...EEL said....SheepDog helped.....Pappy fixed, well, everything!!!"
Nice shooting this weekend! Hope to see you out at another AS event soon. Bring friends. Get 'em off the couch, we'll put a rifle in their hands, make 'em think a bit, and before you know it....poof!!...more Riflemen helping save our fine country O0
Thanks again for comming out, listening, working hard, persisting, and persevering! A man who knows very well what he is about!
EEL
I remember I was sort of confused at my first AS when everyone introduced themselves with weird forum names. :)
I imagine most instructors don't think about it because they're used to the forum.
When I'm at an event, I make a point to say, "Hi, my name's Mike, I'm from Ohio. blah blah blah. If you go on the Appleseed forum, you'll see me as MeanStreaker."
I think that makes folks feel a little better. :)
Anyone who wants the high-quality original pics, I'm uploading them to the server.
Download this file:
http://www.gsldefensetraining.com/photos/Appleseed2009.rar
Use winrar
Free from http://download.cnet.com/WinRAR/3000-2250_4-10007677.html
Wait until 7pm tonight (CST) before starting or you'll likely get a "corrupt file" message upon completion as it's 622+Mb and it's going to take another couple hours to upload.
John
Oh, yeah: Permission is granted for use with the following credit: Photo(s) courtesy Guns Save Life.com
Excellent work Team Illinois!
Thanks for spreading the word Templar O0
Thanks for the clarification on the "handles".
When I first got there and everyone was using a handle, I thought to myself, "Why aren't these guys using their real names?" Was it because they didn't want to be on a .gov list? Too cool for real names? My girlfriend saw the pics and asked why some guy had a tag that said "EEL" and we talked. She said the handles gave her a negative initial impression. For what it's worth, guys. While my first impression wasn't negative, it was a question bouncing around in the back of my mind.
Bloomington was good overall and I look forward to steering Guns Save Life into a fourth year of sponsoring a shoot at Darnall's. As those present could see, the facilities are nice there, the food excellent and many additional benefits like real bathrooms, shade trees and picnic tables, a pro shop with gunsmithing services, along with plenty of room to spread out and (primitive) camping. I and some close friends have been holding classes there for about ten years now and we like it there as well for all of the above reasons as well. And it would seem that at least one additional director of GSL is wanting to become an Appleseed instructor and another is flirting.
Also, some additional feedback.
I've noticed the program has changed slightly over the last three years and I think it is for the better. I don't know how much of this is changes in the "program" and how much is the "flavor" you get with different lead instructors (or shoot bosses as you refer to them).
Saturday this year wasn't nearly as rushed as it was back in '07 or in '08. Especially in 07, we literally didn't really have time to drink. Many were dehydrated and/or fatigued and the scores seemed to go down as the day progressed. Frankly, it was difficult to keep up with things in that first Appleseed we had. Maybe it was the fact that Fred himself was here and everyone was trying to run at warp speed. I don't know.
This year, things seemed to move at a much, much more comfortable pace on Saturday. The lessons came in a more deliberate and manageable pace and the "storytelling" breaks were longer and more relaxed (and thankfully, weren't done in the sun).
I will say that at least one guy I knew who walked on Sunday was hopelessly lost and quickly bailed out of frustrations with both his rifle and his shooting. It would have been nice to have placed him where he could have gotten some remedial, one-on-one or small group instruction to bring him up to speed if staffing permitted it (and frankly, I'm not sure there was enough staff there for that at this event). I'm not sure how the other walk-ons did Sunday, but Sunday isn't the day to choose if you're going to only do Appleseed for one day as I'm sure others would agree.
Sunday, the bay I was in shot either six or seven AQTs. It almost seemed counter-productive running that many, in the opinion of this relative inexperienced Appleseed participant. A couple of my neighbors shot substantially similar scores and additional time spent re-zeroing as needed (shooting the squares ... one guy brought a new rifle Sunday and another said he diddled with his scope Saturday night... argh! "What were you thinking!?!") and also one or more exercises in finding your NPOA under time and/or the "shooting with your eyes closed" exercise I heard about that was done on the other bay might have built or reinforced skill sets to allow shooters to better their scores through better technique instead of depending upon luck to get them to the magical 210.
Take all of the above for what it's worth. We didn't do a written eval at the end of the class, so this will have to suffice as a "public" evaluation. I wouldn't add anything else in private as a negative.
I've taken a number of courses with major league instructors including Ayoob, Farnam, Rogers, Sullivan and many others and I'll tell you, Appleseed has a quality product that is worth many times what you guys are charging in terms of useful content. Better still, the instructors this year were all very good with good people skills. It's simply remarkable that they are volunteers -- you don't even put them up in a hotel! That's some crazy dedication right there.
John
Look for a final version of this article to be in July 2009's issue of GunNews, along with pictures.
I suspect the photo of EEL helping the little boy with his sling will be the cover photo of said issue.
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by John Boch
Bloomington, IL (Guns Save Life/CCRA) - The third annual Guns Save Life-sponsored Appleseed Shoot at Darnall's Gun Works and Ranges was held May 30-31 in Bloomington. About forty participants turned out to learn the fundamentals of rifle marksmanship from experienced instructors from throughout the midwest.
The overwhelming majority of shooters used rimfire rifles for this Appleseed, a big change from the big-bore rifles used during the first year when centerfire ammunition was plentiful and comparably inexpensive.
The course started off with a safety briefing where the lead instructor explained Appleseed range procedures and safety rules for those present. They even have a cute little "song": mags out, bolts back, safety on, flag in. Participants realize pretty quickly that Appleseed staff are very safety oriented.
Participants then were turned loose with 13 rounds from the prone position on the "Redcoat" target to provide a baseline. Some students couldn't keep their shots on paper. Other rifles shot better, but weren't sighted for 25 meters (or sighted in at all).
From there, instructors taught the steps of how to fire the shot (sight alignment, sight picture, breath control / finding the natural point of aim, focusing your eye/mind, trigger control and follow through) along with building a solid shooting platform starting in prone and later sitting and standing.
Sling usage is also critical and dramatically improves marksmanship, and the instructors taught how to properly use the sling to aid accuracy.
From there, we began the process of sighting in the rifles, and still more lessons were delivered on how to "listen" to what targets are saying after holes are delivered. No, they aren't complaining that getting shot hurts. Instead, they offer information about how the shooter and the rifle are operating and how much the sights need adjustment.
Instructors taught the fundamentals of "inches - minutes - clicks" to sight in the rifle with a minimum of rounds fired (and trips down range). For instance, if your rifle is shooting 2" low (again, at 25m) as mine was, using IMC, I needed to move my sights up eight minutes of angle, or at half-minute increments (per click on my EOTech), 16 clicks. Viola! Life is good and shots are on target with one change.
Some needed front sight adjustment for gross changes (or, in my case to get it out of the way when co-witnessing my irons with the red-dot). Others with some rimfire rifles were just out of luck as their sights weren't set up for precise windage or elevation adjustments.
A great deal of excellent material was showered upon the students throughout Saturday and to a lesser degree Sunday, and for many it was like trying to "drink from a firehose".
For those who showed up on Sunday, they were almost hopelessly behind the curve as instructors built upon skills learned the first day. Rifleman's cadence, for example, sounds easy. However, if one doesn't have a good foundation to incorporate those skills, the targets aren't going to be looking pretty and have nice things to say to those who see them and the shooter will be frustrated.
In addition to learning the fundamentals of rifle shooting, Appleseed also spends a good amount of time discussing the role of rifleman skills during the Revolutionary War and how skilled rifleman in the colonies defeated the world's most powerful, skilled and best-trained military in the world, the British.
Course tuition was a mere $70 for two days. Guns Save Life / Champaign County Rifle Association picked up the range fees for the shooters (at $40 per shooter for the weekend) as part of GSL/CCRA's education mission. Students gave GSL much applause for their work and sponsorship. GSL had their Great Guns II Drawing guns out shamelessly plugging tickets and many were purchased.
There are a host of other Appleseed events throughout Illinois and indeed the nation later this year. Go out and take one. Take your spouse and kids! Women and children shoot free. Rimfires are welcome and the instruction is very good.
Excellent Critique and nicely written Article Templar223,
As our Instructor Corp builds, many shoots will have a flavor all their own. Of course the meat and potatoes will always be the same, just seasoned a bit different by the Chef, err I mean Instructor Team. That is one of the reasons that folks get addicted to attending Appleseeds. Different teaching styles or History re-telling, really makes each Appleseed different enough to keep everyone's attention.
As for Walk-ons on Sunday, it is true they have a lot of catch up to do. I you can only make 1 day, make Saturday. But if you do show up on Sunday (with a teachable attitude), grab an instructor, and let them know you may need some help. While you can't expect a one on one all day to get caught up, you will atleast be on the radar.
edited to add;
I understand you and your Girlfriends issue with the handles, but with everyone "meeting" online, it is just easier. At shoots I always introduce myself with my given name followed by and I go by Garand69 on the forum. Most people at the shoot just call me Garand, though my fellow IIT's and Instructors have several names for me, though there is no need to go into that here ;D
Hey who let that young man shoot with his sling on backwards? Kidding aside, another picture perfect weekend. Attendees continue to impress me with their love of country and heritage. Many thanks to EEL, JP, The Editor, Deacon and Revillie. These guys did an outstanding job of teaching, guiding and directing our appleseeders.
We had 32 on Saturday and 28 Sunday. We ran two bays and to my amazement each group ran parallel courses of fire Three Riflemen on Sunday. Congrats to Franke, John and Jim. Praise also to all the shooters who showed marked improvement over the weekend. Perservre and Persist.
Several families, a servicemen, lots of young shooters and a couple young ladies who on Saturday went to new levels. Next time come for both days.
The range at Darnell's is amazing. Even a store on site! Hot lunch each day. What more could your ask for? Thanks for all your help.
Ive got to plug the Instructors.... EEL and The Editor did a fantastic job balancing the teaching with the shooting. Our IITs rock. I was blessed with three who distinguished themselves. It is exciting to me to see these guys jump head first into the program and thirst for more. Pappy, our terminal IIT, lets just say to know him is to love him. What a wealth of knowledge and I'm happy that DOM is on our side. Thank you all for your committment to the cause!!!
Through The Editor, we were treated to beverages and the organization, Guns Save Life.com paid all attendee's range fees. Thank you very much for hooking us up TE!
A special note on EEL...(And I'm not sucking up for Bonfield wher he's the SB). People who have the true gift for teaching, pattering, coaching, encouraging, and story telling, I mean the gems, are few and far between. EEL stands out as one of the best instructors I have ever had the pleasure to work alongside. He jerked a tear from this emotionally dysfunctional old man. Don't miss a chance to hear his history or work/train at one of his shoots.
Bonfield is next!
Way to go, now you got me all misty eyed! I am blessed to be a part of a historic and uplifting movement. To spend time with true Americans is an honor that I do not take lightly. Thank you all, Reveille.
There are no words adequate enough to convey the level of my gratitude to the Instructors for the wisdom and the time they so freely gave for us and for the cause this past weekend. I am still trying to process it all and have not been able to stop thinking about what those two days have done to me on the inside. It's something way more than just becoming a MUCH better shot than I was before Saturday morning. Simply put.... I AM HOOKED !!! and I'm already working hard at making my way to the RBC in Osage Beach, MO this October.
Let me start with individual thanks first:
EEL: YOU ROCK! O0 Thank you for the heartfelt love you showed us all last weekend. Your love for country was most evident in the history lessons you shared. They made as much an impact on me as the shooting. Maybe more, because you showed me there are others out there (like myself) who really do give a sh!t about this country and what it really means to be an American. Character, Integrity, Personal Responsibility, and Honor above all, are the things that drive me personally and are the hallmarks of what I endeavor to teach my three children. You sir, posses those traits in spades and for that I consider myself blessed to have made your acquaintance.
SheepDog: You sir, are a man that reminds me so much of my grandfather it breaks my heart to think about it. Hell.... now I'm crying :'( Seriously though, You do, and that is one of the best compliments I could give anyone. I look forward to seeing you again real soon.
Pappy: Your kindness and patience was astounding. Thanks for all the "tips" and for being "A Dangerous Old Man". It's nice to know I have something to look forward with age and that I'll be in such good company. Especially, if you get more dangerous with each passing year.
The Editor: Thanks so much for turning me on to the Appleseed program. I have such a greater understanding now of your passion for this Organization and consider myself even more fortunate to be your friend. We have so much to talk about now and I can't wait to get started as an IIT.
Reveille, Deacon: I didn't get the chance to spend much time with you as I was on the "other line" (Or as EEL would say the "Better Line" ;)), but I was truly impressed with your level of professionalism and esprit de corps. I look forward to seeing you both again soon as well. Thanks so much for your time this past weekend. It was greatly appreciated!
Day One
Before I arrived, I thought I was a pretty good shot and that I could pull off becoming one of those rare people who make Rifleman on their first day of an Appleseed. My first redcoat target was a great lesson in both humility and aggravation. I learned more on that first day about marksmanship and myself than I have in all the other shooting classes I've ever taken combined. I was there with a relatively new gun I had put together for this (My first) Appleseed. It's a Chief AJ tuned Ruger 10-22 with a Hogue overmold stock, Bull Barrel, and Bushnell 3-9 X 40mm scope. It'll put 10 shots in a dime at 25M from a bench rest. I had a great gun so any bad shooting would be strictly a result of the shooter and not the hardware. The things I didn't have were first, a good sling. Thankfully EEL was there to help me out with both a GI sling and a set of swivels. Thanks again EEL! The second missing component was decent ammunition. I had brought 500 rounds of Remington Thunderbolt (which I had not thoroughly tested in this gun before) and found out on that first redcoat target that this stuff is crap. That was the lesson in aggravation as I had continuous FTF and resulting double-feed jams. Thankfully, my good friend John (Templar223) had some reliable .22 ammo I could use that day and things started turning around.
After the 6 steps lesson and getting my scope dialed in on the 25M squares, things started to improve dramatically (That's me in Templar223's pictures above pointing to my second group on the 25M squares). I was making much better hits and not feeling as stupid as I did first. The history lessons seemed to enhance my reasons for shooting and subsequently, I improved. At the end of the day we re-shot the redcoat target and I was the only one to clear it (with a dead center head-shot to boot) and received a rousing round of "Hoooozah's" from the line. Too bad that didn't count for a Rifleman's badge. :( Anyway, that would end up being the highlight of my weekend.
Day Two
Again, another excellent day of instruction and history. I got 200 rounds of Blazer .22 from Darnall's (all they had left) and an additional 100 rounds of Blazer from The Editor (Thanks again John) and the gun was functioning great. My scores were improving and on the last AQT before lunch I shot a 208. I was both excited and furious with myself because I was one shot off on the 100 YD target from having made Rifleman (9 5's and a 3). This was to be my best effort for the weekend. My next AQT was a 206, then a 198, and a 189. I was now really sore and really tired and my scores were reflecting such. I was trying to persist and persevere, but there comes a time when you just know things are not going to get any better and it's time to pack it in and call it a day. 4:30 on Sunday afternoon was that time for me and it was really a very hard personal decision to make. I would have bet at least one if not all of the instructors would have stayed out there with me all night and held a flashlight to try and help me make Rifleman if I had wanted to (because that's just the caliber of men they were), but I accepted the fact it wasn't going to happen this weekend and found comfort in knowing there would be many more Appleseeds for me to attend and overall it was good for my soul to have not made Rifleman this time around.
Conclusion
There is no better Firearms class to be had in the world for this amount of money. Appleseed and the men there instructing the class (men who knew very much what they were about) have changed my life forever and changed it for the better. I hope that someday, I too can be counted as an Appleseed Instructor along side all of you fine men. I'm already 50 pages into "Paul Revere's Ride" and I can't wait until the RBC in October.
God Bless you all for what you bring to the table!
Most Sincerely,
Matthew Skaj
Webmaster - CCRA/gunssavelife.com
Champaign, IL
Look at Boba Fett... one post and he's already got a fancy avatar.
Here's a happy new rifleman. It only took three years to earn it.
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I would like to publicly congratulate my good friend John Boch (Templar223) on his excellent shooting this past weekend and in finally obtaining his Rifleman's Patch. Way to go John! I'm glad we're on the same side.
Thanks Matt.
After three years...
by John Boch
Everyone wants one when they go to Appleseed - or at least all competitive folks like me. It's the little 3.5" wide black and green badge that says "RIFLEMAN" in big, bold letters on top of a colonial flag (just like the one on the cover of GunNews). While it probably cost less than a dollar to make, you can't buy them even on eBay. They are earned and they represent the proud owner's marksmanship skills with a rifle. It means you shoot with the best in the nation - in the top 5%.
It took me three years - three long years and lots of bruises, frustration and spent brass - to earn my Rifleman badge. Thanks to persistence and perseverance, things came together for me and on Sunday, I was four for four shooting "Rifleman" scores on AQTs and it felt great.
For me, it was an almost zen-like state as most of what Appleseed instructors had taught me over the years had finally cemented together and life was good.
I'll share my "secret" for those of you who have been to an Appleseed and didn't shot as well as you wanted. These were things that worked against me in the past that I remedied this time through. (I wish someone had shared these with me earlier!)
1. Shoot a quality rifle that you are compatible with. I shot a Garand - a quality rifle - at my first Appleseed. My soft body parts - shoulder, elbows and jaw were strange colors of purple and blue at the end of the day and I had a big fat lip and a flinch too. Like a dumb mule I tried to conquer that rifle again the next year. This year, I chose an AR. Work smart, not hard!
2. Use a low-power optic or red-dot. If you don't have perfect alignment with your iron peep sights, your bullets will fall up to several minutes of angle away from where your front sight blade resides, costing you hits/points.
3. Practice and get critiqued. Practice building a good shooting position with a skilled shooter (or better still, an Appleseed instructor or rifleman) to critique you. Dry fire is your friend.
4. Don't let yourself get dehydrated or sweat out all of your electrolytes. Frustration will quickly replace concentration if this happens.
Let me thank every one (both instructors, participants and the host) for the event. We rock'd! Separate thank you for the high-quality pictures. I look at them and it revitalizes my spirits by recalling those bright and sunny days of this weekend.
I checked with the president of my rifle & gun club and passed the word about the appleseed program (both website and personal story what we did and how I feel about it). He said the program would be surely interesting and beneficial to a great many of our club members. I hope Appleseed might come to our town at some point of time.
A piece of thought... if only there's a handgun appleseed... I'd love it. I know the spirit of the program is to teach a rifle, but I guess great many good people would be interested in the program that teaches good handgun marksmanship.
> I suspect the photo of EEL helping the little boy with his sling will be the cover photo of said issue.
If that is the case, please let me know. I'd love to get a copy of that magazine. Actually, maybe a few/ one for the boy, and one for his grandpa and one for me.
Guys,
Thanks for the accolades! Nice to know the message gets through, at least some of the time. ;D I really enjoyed this past weekend. You shooters were very attentive, came with open minds, and most importantly, teachable attitudes.
I really do wonder after each shoot...did I just meet the next Revere, Hancock, Davis, Freeman, etc. It does my heart good to see soooo many Americans come out each weekend across this great Nation, meeting each other and talking face to face, rather than phone, e-mail, text, etc. They share stories, concerns, and ideas. They work hard and are truely happy for the success of another shooter.
But it is you, the shooters, that should be thanked. You allow the instructor corps an avenue to spread the word, share some aquired skills, and pass on some heritage. If we do not pass these things on, they will die with us, never to be recovered. How much has been lost already? :'(
Learn to shoot today, Teach someone to shoot tomorrow!
I either say it or post it after every shoot:
On behalf of the Bloomington Instructor Corps, it is both an honor and a priviledge to have had the opportunity to be in the company of so many fine Americans this weekend!
Thanks again,
EEL
Hello Group; With all that the Appleseed Project has to offer still fresh in your mind take the time to sign up for this weekend with us at the Illinois State Rifle Range near Bonfield Illinois... See you there, Pappy
I just wanted to share my high regards for your shooting program. I came with my brother and another friend, and all three of us were very impressed not only with the marksmanship instruction and historical reference, but also with the quality of the instructional staff. I couldn't remember all your names, but I'd like to thank Eel for his advice on improving my groups and shooting postures, and Pappy for helping me with my rifle on the second day. Thanks also to Darnell's for their nice range and great lunches, and to GSL for donating the range fees.
I found especially helpful the Inches, Minutes, Clicks lessons. Before this class, this had been a mystery to me and having the knowledge to better sight in my rifles is a big help. Also, learning to hold my rifle better has improved my shooting scores and made me more eager to shoot some of my high-power rifles that typically sit in my gun cabinet for long periods. Hopefully with the information I learned from last weekend I won't have any more crescent-shaped scars on my forehead!!!
I'm hoping that another Appleseed comes to the area soon, I definately plan on going again, as do the two other guys who went with me. I've been telling all the gun owners I know about this event, and many have expressed interest in going as well. Next time, I'll bring as many people as I can, even if I've gotta carry them! I've believed for a long time that the best defense against those who would curtail our liberties (especially our 2A freedoms) is education and instruction. Although I didn't achieve rifleman this time around, I'm committed to improving my scores and helping others along the way in whatever avenue I can. I'm glad to see and participate with an organization that is doing something to make this country a better place.
A page with Appleseed info at GSL Defense Training.
http://www.gsldefensetraining.com/appleseed.html
Pappy, don't forget you "owe" me a size L T-shirt. :)
Thanks to everyone down in the land of "suck".....I mean Lincoln?
Just kidding..... I really had a great time down at Darnell's.
This was my first Appleseed as an Instructor in Training. Thanks to Sheepdog, EEL, Pappy and Reveille for the great instruction, hints, tips, and encouragement. I think I will have to head "south of the border" more often! (Don't tell Colycat or JRTurbo.)
At least I didn't go up to Minnesota!
Anyway, thanks again. It took me about 4 hours to get home from the shoot and it seemed to fly by. My head was swimming with all that I learned and the great people that I met. It was great to hear the history for the second time. I am working on reading the book "Paul Revere's Ride". I would suggest everyone to read it!
See you all on the trail.
Deacon O0
I remember everyone talking about the book Paul Revere's Ride. Is this the one by David Hackett Fischer? There are several books by that name on amazon, and I'm interested in checking out a copy.
Yes, David Hackett Fischer is the one.
I remebered having to read books like that in high school and hating it!
I guess now I feel a lot different about why history is so important to know. I don't mean just know about it, but really know what happened and why. The Appleseed Project has really tuned my sense of Patriotism and realized what those men and women really did for us.
I know what you mean, Deacon. Although I've always enjoyed history, I never thought they really covered the "why" and the "how" with enough emphasis to get people to understand what our history really means. I went ahead and bought Paul Revere's Ride from amazon, it was actually under $4. Went ahead and got some other good books I've been hearing about as well: Liberty and Tyranny, a Conservative Manifesto by Mark Levin, Common Sense by Glenn Beck, and The 5000 Year Leap. Hope I find some good reading.
6th month of the year, and I still have yet to work an Illinois(ucks) Appleseed.
Thanks to AARs like this I can continue my involvement elsewhere. The crew here has things well under controll.
So long ILLINOIS(UCKS!!) LOL!!!
Seriously, ya'all make me so proud!
Surrender none,
Guy
ps, Templar,
John, who the hell is John?!?! Which John?!?! No one posts as just "John"?!?!
LOL!
Guy
Hey Guy..
The Editor is planning a full 2 day AS in Danville at the end if July. We'd love to have you drop by and teach us a thing or two.
Quote from: The Guy on June 15, 2009, 10:17:15 AM
ps, Templar,
John, who the hell is John?!?! Which John?!?! No one posts as just "John"?!?!
LOL!
Guy
John B., special assistant to the Space Shuttle Door Gunner. That's who.
John
Quote from: The Guy on June 15, 2009, 10:15:48 AM
6th month of the year, and I still have yet to work an Illinois(ucks) Appleseed.
Thanks to AARs like this I can continue my involvement elsewhere. The crew here has things well under controll.
So long ILLINOIS(UCKS!!) LOL!!!
Seriously, ya'all make me so proud!
Surrender none,
Guy
When you do manage to get your skinney butt back to an Illinois shoot, I suggest you bring plenty of red bull and keep moving..... Pappy and I have make a real special tether for you my Friend >:D
Now Grand That no way to lure our border raiding master instructor back to the land of blow. It is rumored that there is to be a Guy sighting at the LABOR DAY shoot in Chilli but as yet it is unconfirmed. All I can figure is that when he does show he will want to know how we have improved, since the last time we talked. Then the Clown bats will come out and that tether thing we had made by the folks at Onidea/Victor -- ConiBeGuy The experimental dept only made one the old boy called it a 1660 and warned us that it was for demonstrations only. I bet if we use some Red Bull and them dainty little sweet smellin smokes mid afternoon on a sunday for bait well have em for sure, Dont forget the little Bunny Foo Foo sign pointing the way to Chicago for good measure #) ;D ;D O0 <:) #) &) **) **) **) ++) ++) $$-0 $$-0 :)) :) 8) 8) <:) Pappy
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Quote from: Fox on June 04, 2009, 01:30:56 AM
> I suspect the photo of EEL helping the little boy with his sling will be the cover photo of said issue.
If that is the case, please let me know. I'd love to get a copy of that magazine. Actually, maybe a few/ one for the boy, and one for his grandpa and one for me.
Yes it is on the cover, although the Editor didn't make it as big as I would have...
John