So, I am trying to learn.... I bought the slings, the tech-sights, read the instructions and it said to use purple Permatex thread-lock or similar. I ordered some purple Loctite and used it on the front sight. I decided to use it on the rear too - made sense at first.
Several hours later I went to the basement to dry-fire. After checking for empty chamber, I lined up and fired and the bolt froze. I figured this was fine because I could learn how to fix it. When I tool it apart I saw purple loctite everywhere in the receiver - everywhere. I did not think I used that much, just a little drop or two, but the holes for the rear sight go through to the internals and I got loctite spread everywhere.
I have completely stripped and cleaned the parts except for removal of the safety button. As luck would have it, most of the loctite was still wet. The parts are all clean and I will have to learn how to assemble them again.
This was a really-close call. Luckily everyone here is respectful and no one will mock me publicly. O0
Yeah, it don't take much.
Just strip the trigger assy. and bolt first, and you'll be fine.
;D
A guy did that at Buckeye AZ, too. Froze his bolt in place. Good fun.
Live and learn.
Ok, I'll admit it. I froze my firing pin in place(in the forward position) :o
Almost had myself some legal issues! :~ :~ :~
Glad I checked it out first.
+1 for funtion testing O0
I'M GUILTY :-[
Two drops in each hole was enough to lock the bolt back and freeze the firing pin... BUT not enough to keep the screws tight even after a thorough cleaning with alcohol.
I learned from the mistake and stepped up to blue loctite after pulling the trigger group and bolt.
i didn't need anything more than some krazy glue for the rear sight. it holds fast.
even when i scrubbed out the paint from the inside of the receiver with gun scrubber, it still didn't come loose.
red 242 holds my front sight in place, however -- though it was fine with just the krazy glue at first, after about 1800 rounds, the whole thing wore down and came loose from the dovetail. the set screw didn't move a millimeter.
Quote from: BaldDragn on May 02, 2009, 02:09:25 AM
I'M GUILTY :-[
Two drops in each hole was enough to lock the bolt back and freeze the firing pin... BUT not enough to keep the screws tight even after a thorough cleaning with alcohol.
I learned from the mistake and stepped up to blue loctite after pulling the trigger group and bolt.
Instead of putting the Loctite in the holes of the receiver, just put a drop on each screw.
When using any Locktite product, you need to strip the rifle so you don't get the Locktite into places you don't want it, and you have to strip ALL THE OIL off the parts you are assembling. Brake cleaner is a good product for this. If you don't remove all of the oil, you don't stand a chance of getting the parts too stay.
Use it liberally on the front sight set screw. As long as the screw is, I would suggest backing the screw about half way out of the hole and putting the Locktite in the bottom of the hole; I used two drops on mine. Apple a small drop on the surfaces of the dove tail if the FS goes on with out driving. Set the sight in place and tighten it up using the allen wrench supplied with the sights. I use the short arm as the handle to avoid stripping out the threads.
I used a good sized drop on the rear sight screws. With the action stripped, all you do is wait five minutes and wipe any excess off the inside of the receiver. Locktite only sets when it is anaerobic. Left in the open air it takes for ever to harden, if at all.
HTH
Douglas
I had used a drop of blue loctite when I put my techsites on before the April shoot. When I got home and cleaned my 10/22 I noticed they had worked loose - I was a bit surprised. So, I retightened and globed the top of them... held them im place since. But... at one point I wanted to put a scope on (to get a bit more feedback on my grouping) but found them very hard to remove... so I'll go back to a drop and just check them before and after each day's shooting.
Good news is I got the whole thing reassembled this evening and did some dry-firing. ;D
I have two 10/22 with tech sights. I have no loctite front or back. My front sight fell out on one because I didn't tighten the grub screw being over cautious. I simply snugged everything down.
I have lent these LTRs multiple times and people have put thousands of rounds through them and they've produced multiple Riflemen. Never a problem.
<:)
YMMV
PS. I need to start putting notches in the stocks of those babies, one per Rifleman produced... ;)
I took the rifle out for the first time after the "loctite incident, strip and reassemble" and the rifle jammed on the first round. I had to dissassemble the thing with a screw driver,a 3-1/2 inch wood screew and a block of wood. I was able to fix whatever was wrong with it - not sure exactly and then fired about 200 rounds through with a few misfires here and there. It was a great learning experience :)