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Title: Slinging up
Post by: Flintlock54 on June 27, 2024, 09:37:57 AM
We teach slinging up from kneeling or sitting. Is there a slinging up technique for shooters who feel they cannot go to kneeling or sitting?
Title: Re: Slinging up
Post by: Nightpoison on June 27, 2024, 11:35:20 AM
Are they able to go prone? If so, Personally, I leave the sling on my arm full time. I'll approach my mat and go right to prone. Here I'll hook up to the front attachment. No need to sling up in the normal seated/kneeling position
Title: Re: Slinging up
Post by: mmirate on June 27, 2024, 01:43:18 PM
In the case that there is available a 1907-style sling that stays attached at the rear, then standing may become an option. Here's what I do to get into my Magpul RLS:

* Normal trigger-hand grip;
* muzzle vertical;
* raise the trigger guard to shoulder level (rather than eye level);
* twist the loop as needed;
* push the support arm through the loop, though it won't make it all the way through just yet;
* begin applying muzzle-rearwards pressure with the support arm;
* windmill the support hand into the sling;
* grab the front of the rifle with the support hand;
* use the trigger hand to push the loop the rest of the way up the support arm and cinch it down as much as it will cinch so far;
* return the trigger-hand to the rifle (grip somewhere behind any pistol-grip, else use normal grip);
* present the muzzle to the target and shoulder the rifle;
* cinch the loop the rest of the way using the trigger hand;
* and transition to the desired shooting position. (first step of transition should be: unshoulder the rifle)

That said, I'm having trouble imagining a situation where this is useful for adaptive purposes without presenting challenges of its own in regards to transitioning and holding the rifle up.
Title: Re: Slinging up
Post by: Flintlock54 on June 27, 2024, 02:15:36 PM
Thanks guys for the replies. I'm doubtful that going prone will work for these shooters, they're going to need to put their elbows on a bench and simulate prone. For siting position we'll use a chair. Im intrigued by the idea of donning the loop sling in the manner described by mmirate.
Title: Re: Slinging up
Post by: BBQ_Bandit on June 27, 2024, 08:38:52 PM
Thanks for the question...  this is what I wound up doing.

A. I use the hasty sling for all positions due to the fact do not have the dexterity with one of my two hands.

B. I end up on my back... allowing gravity and the sling work its way loosely above my support arm... then draw and pull the stock away to add tension to the sling.

C. Afterwards... roll on my belly to finalize the body's index to the target.

Your mileage may vary based on your shooter's mobility.
Title: Re: Slinging up
Post by: rambo granny on June 28, 2024, 01:08:00 PM
Flintlock thanks for bringing this topic up.
Post #31 on the Adaptive AQT thread describes techniques used by a double amputee (legs) in a power chair to simulate standing sitting and prone using sling for all.
You may find it interesting.
Also.. while you are on the Adaptive AQT thread, check out the many posts re the open leg chair position. It's  a great tool for your "Adaptive toolbox". In slinging up for it, I've tried both the seated and kneeling methods to sling up but find that adapting the kneeling method while sitting in chair is less hazardous. Key to safety is making sure rifle pointing straight up (and neither tipped forward or backward at instructors). Insist students keep the rifle trapped with trigger side arm firmly capturing rifle.
Quite frankly I would not use the standard sitting method to don the sling when using a chair to shoot. It is way too easy to either bump the rifle in a bad direction or tangle with the chair arms. With an adaptive student in open leg chair position, sturdy chair arms are a necessity.