So, I posted about the coat earlier, this is about the shooting glove.
I'll start this with the purpose of the glove.
The purpose of the shooting glove, is to protect the support hand from the sling.
That is simply it in a nutshell.
There are specialty gloves out there, with gripping surface on the back of the hand (to keep the sling in place).
Some gloves are actually "formed" with some plastic around them, the form of the glove has a great benefit. It will force a relaxed and open support hand.
A glove is not needed at all for Appleseed, but it will help.
CMP Rimfire Sporter does not allow the use of a specialty shooting glove (they are easily identifiable by their design), however they do allow a non-specialty glove to be worn.
I use a Mechanix work glove, and that is allowed, it has some stiff rubber on the back side of the hand to protect my hand from the tightness of the sling, and it has some "grip" to keep my hand in place on the forearm.
My daughter uses a soccer glove (never knew those even existed), but it has some padding and serves her well in Rimfire Sporter.
The Glove, will protect the hand from a tight sling, and what does that do for the shooter?
It helps them to maintain focus on the fundamentals, and not be in pain.
When one is not in pain, typically scores will reflect that.
Gloves range in price from $30-50
Attached is a picture of my daughter in dry fire, and her Creedmoor Sports glove. You will be able to see the leather sling, and how that rides over the back side of her hand.
Gloves/Mitts can be procured at Creedmoor Sports, Champions Choice, Monard, 10.9 and a few other places.
R/
Chris
One will often see the glove used in the offhand position, when no sling is in use. Here is a CMP piece on the use of the full fingered glove in the standing position to provide extra hand support. It cautions against using half-fingered glove near the ejection port, as I learned first hand last week with my 10/22 when a casing ejected into the open finger and burned me...ouch
"Full-fingered gloves provide wrist support. This is especially useful in the standing position. .... The more support you can provide to your hand and wrist, the less fatigued you will become. The use of a full-fingered glove is critical if your standing position requires that you have your fingers close to the ejection port.
http://www.odcmp.org/0308/default.asp?page=USAMU_COATSANDGLOVES
All good advice on the glove CarrollMS,
I still wear an open glove (and most do) for standing, the brass just comes out too fast to hit my fingers and the rare occasion it does, it is not a problem. I have a few full finger gloves that I no longer wear because of the below advice. Heat is more of an issue to me, and it is typically very hot in the conditions I shoot in.
Full finger gloves may prove to be an issue with a sweaty hand, and the inside liner. It will be difficult if the liner pulls out when one removes the glove after shooting, it has happened to me before.
The hold, may determine the glove type, if one finds that the brass is hitting the fingers and becoming a nuisance, then a full finger is in order.
My daughter uses an open finger, and her fingers are near the ejection port, she has not complained yet, LOL.
The important thing with the glove for standing is that wrist support it gives. I find Monard gloves to provide very good wrist support, but they are tough to find these days. The Creedmoor gloves give adequate wrist support for standing.
When we shoot our rimfires, we are typically wearing a full finger glove, but it is not a specialty shooting glove, it is a mechanix work glove for me, and my daughter uses a soccer glove.
To the "hold" determining the glove type, there are 3 holds I can think of when shooting standing without a sling. They are:
1. "Stands with fist": That is what I am doing now, and I learned that from the top USMC shooter...SSGt Ferguson. My support hand becomes a relaxed fist and I rest the rifle on the flat of my fist with the back of the hand/wrist up against the magazine well. It seems to be working well for me. I use this standing hold with every rifle I own. For the wood rifles, my hand is up against the trigger guard.
2. "V hold between thumb and index finger with the palm (inside of hand) facing the magwell": This is a hold that may dictate the use of the full fingered shooting glove. It works very well for many shooters, my daughter uses this hold but has not found a need for a full fingered glove yet.
3. "Reverse V (basically the reverse of #2 above) where the palm (inside of hand) is facing the target": The only thing near the ejection port is the thumb. Many shooters use this hold as well.
The only time I would find a need/want for a full fingered glove may be in the winter time, when it is freezing out. But, that is just me. Regarding brass though, it comes out so fast it has never bothered me. In my profile pic here, you will see I am using #2 above, and the brass really was never an issue.
R/
Chris
Quote from: CarrollMS on October 06, 2019, 01:59:23 PM
One will often see the glove used in the offhand position, when no sling is in use. Here is a CMP piece on the use of the full fingered glove in the standing position to provide extra hand support. It cautions against using half-fingered glove near the ejection port, as I learned first hand last week with my 10/22 when a casing ejected into the open finger and burned me...ouch
"Full-fingered gloves provide wrist support. This is especially useful in the standing position. .... The more support you can provide to your hand and wrist, the less fatigued you will become. The use of a full-fingered glove is critical if your standing position requires that you have your fingers close to the ejection port.
http://www.odcmp.org/0308/default.asp?page=USAMU_COATSANDGLOVES
Quote from: USNAVYCHIEF(Ret) on October 07, 2019, 08:14:29 AM
The important thing with the glove for standing is that wrist support it gives. I find Monard gloves to provide very good wrist support, but they are tough to find these days. The Creedmoor gloves give adequate wrist support for standing.
Oberle is the new US distributor for Monard, and I bought a glove from him earlier this year. It's held up way better than my Creedmoor (as it should, for the price), but more importantly it doesn't slip on my A2 handguard. https://oberleenterprises.com/product/proliner-pro-glove-with-top-grip/ (https://oberleenterprises.com/product/proliner-pro-glove-with-top-grip/)
Monard is in my (and others) opinion the best.
The Monard I am using today is ending its second full season of use!
They really hold up well.
Regarding AR15 handguards, I use a Giessele quad rail. I neglected to install rail covers and chewed up a Creedmoor glove within a week in dry fire only!
The quad rails can act like cheese graters on the AR15 with respect to gloves. So....if you are considering a glove (and you should be), and have a quad rail....some sort of rail cover will be in order. I use MANTA rail covers, they are rubberized and provide excellent non-slip grip.
Can't go wrong with a Monard!
Quote from: maxwell on October 07, 2019, 02:38:51 PM
Quote from: USNAVYCHIEF(Ret) on October 07, 2019, 08:14:29 AM
The important thing with the glove for standing is that wrist support it gives. I find Monard gloves to provide very good wrist support, but they are tough to find these days. The Creedmoor gloves give adequate wrist support for standing.
Oberle is the new US distributor for Monard, and I bought a glove from him earlier this year. It's held up way better than my Creedmoor (as it should, for the price), but more importantly it doesn't slip on my A2 handguard. https://oberleenterprises.com/product/proliner-pro-glove-with-top-grip/ (https://oberleenterprises.com/product/proliner-pro-glove-with-top-grip/)
I have never used a glove in shooting except to keep my hands warm. After reading the information above, I have a much better understanding of why it's beneficial. I think I'll give a shooting glove a go.
In the March 2019 Appleseed here in Alaska my son used his shooting glove on the 2nd day and posted two distinguished scores open sights with a bolt action Anschutz Achiever. We weren't exactly competing against one another, but he sure was tickled with the notion of posting higher scores than the Old Man!
In the picture my son is wearing the red/white/black beanie cap running the Anschutz. I'm just above with the 10/22. I think we were the only two that day shooting rifles with open sights. Unfortunately in the picture you can't see his glove.
Good thread.
Gus